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What are the key theological differences between Islam and Christianity?

I don't mean
>lol one believes Christ was the son of God and the other believes Mohammad was a legit prophet
I mean in terms of real-world outlook.

What are the true points of pragmatic contention between the two religions? What makes the moral decisions of a Christian different from that of a Muslim?
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Depending on which branch of Christianity we're talking about, it is purely a religion, a source of beliefs and morals
Islam has been from the ground up both a religious and societal project. Remember that Mohammad was not only a prophet but a ruler

There are a lot of other differences but I feel this one can't be ignored
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>>8478918
>what are the key theological differences but I don't mean key theological differences but "real-world outlook"
One interesting thing that takes a bit of knowledge is that the Muslim God is an arbitrary God while the Christian is not. For example, this world is the best it can be. How do we know this? The Muslim: because what God decides is good is good. The Christian: because God is good and strives for the best in all things. The Christian considers the good to be a part of God's nature which we see and understand in this world, while the (knowledgeable) Muslim knows that no description, no definition, not the 99 or any other, can truly be ascribed to God and to do so is blasphemous. I think about it sometimes and find it interesting. Both, your average Christian or Muslim knows nothing about this.
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>>8478918
the difference between Christianity and all other religions is grace.

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what version of moby dick should I get?
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A hardback edition :^)
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>>8478483

a read one
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Norton

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what makes a book interesting for you, or makes you want to keep reading?
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>>8478470
When the title is in shiny, all-caps type and above it, in even bigger type it says: STEPHEN KING.
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>>8478470
Either aesthetic quality or a lot of cactus.
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Digressions

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Could a better novel possibly exist? Don Quixote is flawless.
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It's literally Tarantino-tier and you wouldn't be making such a fuss about it if it weren't for its release date
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>>8478279
*tips fedora*
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>>8478279
High quality bait, enjoy your (you)'s

>>8478270
Why?

Whos the best book reviewer on YouTube
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Who is the best theology professor on liveleak
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>>8478174
ISIS imam, they fixed the theological issue of compromizing by refusing to do It and living their Life according to the holy texts.

Not that i agree, but It is a bold stance.
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>>8478167
This girl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFYLuVdZFPI

Shame she doesnt look like her goodreads pic

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Do you lads often read books multiple times?
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>>8478126
Really depends on the book
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>>8478126
I'll re-read fiction after I've forgotten most of the plot. Books that were interesting enough for me not to forget, I usually don't see a point. Non-fiction is never worth a re-read, if I need a refresher on it I just look up a summary.
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yes

most days I'd rather reread a book than read a new one

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Daniel Jose Older

remember a while back he was talking shit about Lovecraft saying he was a shit writer
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who?
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He taught a class at my university recently - didn't take it but he's apparently a pretty cool guy in person.

He writes urban dystopia YA. The few passages I heard him read out loud were entertaining. The narrative voice he established was similar to Junior's in Junot Diaz: gritty, streetsmart, very obviously "Latino."

I don't read YA, but if I did I'd probably take his work over The Hunger Games.

Also, HP Lovecraft is not a phenomenal writer. I could definitely see this dude tearing into his work.
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>>8478092
Lovecraft was a shit writer though. His work is entertaining for its ideas, not its prose.

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What's stopping you from finishing that book you've always wanted to read /lit/?
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It requires that I learn French
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I like the idea of reading it more than I like reading it
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I dont understand it, I'm stuck eternally re reading everything

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How is the prose in this shit compared to Ulysses? Does its stylistic beauty and virtuosity make up for the excessive difficulty?
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>>8477925
Don't read it, it's completely incomprehensible.
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>>8477937
oh ok
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Finnegan's Wake is worth reading, especially with annotations, but not like cover to cover. Just pick it up and flip to a random page while you're taking a dump and read it. Appreciate it for the humor, what Joyce does with language and cadence, etc.

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>main character is a writer
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I just picked up this shitty Lovecraft spin off thing that does this.

It says its heavily influenced and based off HPs shit. The main character is a female writer whos a pseudo nerd/basement dweller. And the actual author, who is male, describes people as dude.
I couldnt get past like 8 pages
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>>8477916
>Main character's name is the same as the author's
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>>8477916
>the first female character the main character meets is the love interest

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I want to write a poetry book, with the poems written in the style of rap songs. Not with the same topics or lingo or anything, just written like a rap song, free from poetic form and all over the place in style. For example, instead of looking like your average poem, a poem in this book would look like this:

[Aesop Rock's 2nd verse in "None Shall Pass"]

Now, if you never had a day a snow cone couldn't fix
You wouldn't relate to the rogue vocoder blitz
How he spoke through a NoDoz motor on the fritz
‘Cause he wouldn't play rollover fetch like a bitch
And express no regrets
Though he isn't worth a homeowner's piss
To the jokers who pose by the glitz
Fine, sign of the swine in the swarm
When a king is a whore who comply and conform
Miles outside of the eye of the storm
With a siphon to lure out a prize and award
While avoiding the vile and bizarre that is violence and war
True blue triumph is more
Like, "Wait, let him snake up out of the centerfold
Let it break the walls of Jericho, ready go."
Sat where the old, cardboard city folk
Swap tales with heads, like every other penny throw

Anybody care to either give their opinion or break my balls about this? It seems like it carries a ton of potential, but at the same time it also sounds kind of retarded.
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>>8477695
yeah. aesop rock is a shit rapper for fucknerds and 13 year olds.

get better taste in rap before you try to write poems in the style of rap.
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>>8477695
MF DOOM or Earl Sweatshirt. Look at them.
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>>8477705
>>8477708
Maybe I should have added a list of rappers I like
>The GZA
>MF DOOM
>Aesop Rock
>Big L
>Jedi Mind Tricks
>RA the Rugged Man
>Geto Boys
>Ka
>Billy Woods
>The RZA

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Hey, /lit/ I always wanted to be a writer, and I finally tried my hand at writing a short story, what do you guys think? How could it be improved? Could it be expanded into a full book? How are the characters?

Any Feedback is appreciated.

Pic sort of related.

Mavis Sparrow looked at the silver newspaper in her hands and felt sneezy.

She walked over to the window and reflected on her wild surroundings. She had always hated damp Sydney with its jealous, jittery jungle. It was a place that encouraged her tendency to feel sneezy.

Then she saw something in the distance, or rather someone. It was the figure of Joshua Trescothik. Joshua was a delightful angel with ginger feet and dirty warts.

Mavis gulped. She glanced at her own reflection. She was a stingy, bold, cocoa drinker with charming feet and handsome warts. Her friends saw her as a broad, bad brute. Once, she had even helped a sour old man cross the road.

But not even a stingy person who had once helped a sour old man cross the road, was prepared for what Joshua had in store today.

The hail pounded like shouting blue bottles, making Mavis angry.

As Mavis stepped outside and Joshua came closer, she could see the glorious glint in his eye.

Joshua glared with all the wrath of 5985 understanding shredded snakes. He said, in hushed tones, "I hate you and I want blood."

Mavis looked back, even more angry and still fingering the silver newspaper. "Joshua, I am your mother," she replied.

They looked at each other with fuzzy feelings, like two healthy horses dancing at a race, and two kind uncles bopping to the beat.

Mavis studied Joshua's ginger feet and dirty warts. Eventually, she took a deep breath. "I'm sorry," began Mavis in apologetic tones, "but I don't feel the same way, and I never will. I just don't hate you Joshua."

Joshua looked worried, his emotions raw like a rapid, rabblesnatching rock.

Mavis could actually hear Joshua's emotions shatter into 4335 pieces. Then the delightful angel hurried away into the distance.

Not even a mug of cocoa would calm Mavis's nerves tonight.

THE END
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I have no idea whether this is bait or not.
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>>8477714
If ambivalence is first thought, baiter did a damn well job at it
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I thought you lived in Brisbane.
Please bring back Let's Drown Out.

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what are some books like naked lunch
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>>8477551
Not memeing: Joyce. Ulysses was a huge influence on Burroughs. Also, some of the best stuff by Welsh or Palahniuk has a similar vibe.
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exterminator also by burroughs
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>>8477563
Hmm, the "Circe" part of Ulysses is kind of Naked Lunch-esque for sure, and I guess Finnegan's Wake.

Also, Hunter S. Thompson

>Palahniuk
Anon...

Why is everyone so into Naked Lunch here. It just screams "I'm a 19 year old male and starting to become literary minded." Which I guess, this is 4chan's lit board, so probably.

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What do you guys think of Burroughs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmqZUB9kWFA

Sortuv surprised I never hear /lit/ talking about him.
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>America is not a young land: it is old and dirty and evil. Before the settlers, before the Indians... the evil was there... waiting

>A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. A psychotic is a guy who's just found out what's going on.

>Desperation is the raw material of drastic change. Only those who can leave behind everything they have ever believed in can hope to escape.

>I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.

etc.
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>>8477536
gonna watch the YT link and check out more of him, I like the quotes you posted >>8477558

never heard of him till now

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Post your best /lit/
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>>8477505
I'm partial to this cover and the similar one for Heart of a Dog, also by Bulgakov.
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