Upcoming schedule thread, go:
Victorian Animal Dreams (professor must be bored)
Seminar in Advanced Metaphysics and Epistemology (the guy is supposedly writing a book on metaphysical love lol)
American Lit 1912-1960 (feat. Tommy P)
Ninevah Bethlehem and Jurasalem (pass fail)
Geo lab (tfw senior who skipped this GER the entire time)
Taking it easy my last semester boys. It's been a good run. How's it looking for you guys?
>liberal arts education
>>8964822
>victorian animal dreams
what shitty community college do you attend?
>>8965200
Mmm I attend a top five public uni. Good try though. Sometime professors just get bored of teaching the same shit, so they teach classes on very specific subsets of their field. You would know this if you went to college.
Anyway, good luck on feeling better m8
What does it take to be a writer?
>>8964820
Enthusiasm is all it take to be a legendary author my friend.
A pipe and a typewriter.
Not doing whatever idiotic thing that guy is.
Writers can include poets, historians, philosophers, playwrights, prose writers and theologians.
>tfw I can't read either
How do I learn?
Cicero was always really fun to read, but my Latin skills are pretty weak now desu senpai
Sappho cause her poems are short enough that I can memorize a couple of them "όπταις άμμε" <3
Probably Ovid for Latin, just cause he's much better than his contemporary Latin poets
What are your thoughts on this mans work? Also what book of his is best to start with
>>8964752
i don't like his clothes
He's my favorite modern author. Just read chronologically, or start with Submission. It's his newest, but it's probably the purest distillation of what makes him great.
What do you call that kind of hair style
Which do you, in general prefer? Penguin Classics or Oxford Worlds Classics for classic literature and philosophy? I'd like to pick up Epictetus's Discourses but cannot decide which publisher to go with. But I'm also curious to know what you prefer regularly.
>>8964669
it pretty often just depends on the particular editions.
for example, penguin offers a three volume presentation of marx's capital while oxford only offers a single abridged volume encompassing all of the work.
translations, quality/length of scholarly introductions, and amount of notes all factor into it. you really cant go wrong with either though.
as for the physical editions themselves, i feel like oxford are better constructed and will likely survive multiple readings, more so than penguin.
1. Best Translations
2. Best supplementary material.
Usually Norton > Oxford > Modern Library > Penguin > Enriched Classics > Barnes & Noble Classics > Signet Classics/Vintage/Dover/Bantam > Wordsworth.
But it's extremely variable. For instance, the best version of Crime and Punishment is actually the Vintage Classics one because it has the P&V translation (I think the Everyman's Library one uses it too).
>>8964727
Hmmm I really like Pevear, but I picked up Oliver Ready's translation of Crime and Punishment, admittedly because I fell in love with the quality of the cover and the embossing. I'm really enjoying it as much as any Pevear translation I have read. I forget who translated the copy of The Idiot that I have, it wasn't Pevear and Volokhonsky but I didn't care as much for it.
So for Epictetus's Discourses I'm torn between Dobbin (Penguin) or Hard and Gill (Oxford).
What's the oldest age some important writer started to write?
Is there anyone at 50-60 starting to read and becoming important?
>>8964650
tolstoy
Penelope Fitzgerald comes to mind - in her early 60s when she got started.
>>8964650
Yasushi Inoue
Similar books?
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
>>8964677
Lol
The Big Lebowski
Would lit be a better board if people weren't allowed to talk about books they haven't read?
>>8964415
Would lit be a better board if people weren't allowed to talk about things that will never be?
>>8964415
Finish up your dinner love, there's a good girl.
Plenty of time to look at me later.
>>8964415
It would be a dead board.
Are there any philosophers that support omnicide or am I the first one?
kys
>>8964412
Are you the anon from the picture?
And no. Philosophically popular versions of antinatalism rest upon ideas and arguments about consent, so the picture isn't too relevant for professional philosophy.
>im so dark and edgy
>i rationalized a justification for killing all humans
>im so above society
>g-guys please pay attention to me
Why is egoism, self-centrism and the lack of morality so ridiculed by most philosophers? They disregard it without any arguments.
Is it so obvious why Stirner is wrong that they don't feel the need to explain why? I personally hate Stirner's philosophy, but I agree with it. Could someone explain how such a thing as morality exists and why we should obey it?
Pretend the beast doesn't exist and it won't bother you. Try to fight it and it might kill you.
>>8964361
>egoism
>lack of morality
I don't really get that line of thinking, I think egoism can be perfectly moral
>Is it so obvious why Stirner is wrong that they don't feel the need to explain why?
>The first is life’s losing its meaning. Man loses the center, weight, and connectedness of his own life, a fact life itself compels him to realize. The phenomenon has been known for a long time. Ibsen, in Peer Gynt, puts it into a striking little scene. The aging Peer Gynt is peeling off the layers of an onion, and playfully compares the single layers with the periods of his life, hoping at the end to come to the core of the onion and the core of his own personality. But layer follows layer, period after period of life; and no core is found.
>Everyone whom this experience has touched faces the question: How can my life become meaningful? The man who lives in the fetish-making world does not see that every life is rich, full, and meaningful to the extent that it is consciously linked in human relations with other lives. The isolated egoistic man who lives only for himself lives in an impoverished world. His experiences approach threateningly close to the unessential and begin to merge into nothingness the more exclusively they are his alone, and turned solely inward.
>The man of the fetishized world, who can cure his disgust with the world only in intoxication, seeks, like the morphine addict, to find a way out by heightening the intensity of the intoxicant rather than by a way of life that has no need of intoxication. He is not aware that the loss of communal life, the degradation and dehumanization of collective work as a result of capitalist division of labor, and the severance of human relations from social activity have stupefied him. He does not see this, and goes further and further along the fatal path, which tends to become a subjective need. For in capitalist society public life, work, and the system of human relations are under the spell of fetish making, reification and dehumanization. Only revolt against the actual foundations, as we can see in many authors of the time, leads to a clearer appreciation of these foundations, and thence to a new social perspective. Escape into inwardness is a tragic-comical blind alley.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/1949/existentialism.htm
TL;DR: Stirnerite egoism is just the philosophy of the alienated individual under capitalism.
Society is not made up of molecular individuals. Man is a political animal.
how many books have you read, that reasonably, you would argue are in the western high-literature canon? so you can't count all the christopher hitchens books you've read.
and also, how big do you personally estimate the canon to be?
>>8964319
About 300 of the Western canon, 200 of the Eastern.
>>8964323
And I'd estimate total 2-3,000 in the former, 1,000 in the latter.
~10. But I've watched 1.45% of all anime.
>No people that are daily sending men to explore the North Pole or conquer the air or break speed records can become good Buddhists. I have seen a few examples of European Buddhist monks, who talk altogether
too loudly and too vehemently to conceal the tumultuous passions in their souls. -Lin Yutang
/lit
>>8964297
i mean he is he wrong? Buddhism teaches one to deny the worldly efforts therefore wouldn't it make sense for Buddhist to not care about doing those things. i found this weird cause a lot of Buddhists do things like this. kukai did lots of shit for the world.
that's why forest fags are the best sect.
Let us discuss the greatest literary masterpiece of all time, The Very Hungry Caterpillar.
Eric Carle really outdid himself when writing this work of art.
>>8964199
This is where it all started for me, I think.
i buyed it for my niece, she goes everywhe wit it she even sleeps with it
also what are some other great children lit? more images than words obviously
I want to read the four great classical novels of Chinese literature.
For anyone who doesn't know, those would be
>Water Margin
>Romance of the Three Kingdoms
>Journey to the West
and
>Dream of the Red Chamber
I have no desire to ever learn Chinese.
What are the best English translations of these works?
How long would it take to learn Chinese to purely read literature and not speak it? Is it the best Asian sort of language to learn for literature ?
>>8964143
Japanese is better tbqh
The Chinese classics are overrated and there aren't enough to warrant learning Chinese for it. There aren't any notable contemporary Chinese authors either, whereas there've been plenty of celebrated Japanese authors and works of literature over the past two centuries.
It is a whole different interpretation from the Chinese to English translation. It would take u to be a very well versed Chinese reader to fully understand these books and read them how they r suppose to be read and appreciated. There will be a lot of cultural and linguistical references to premodern chinese language that without proper beforehand knowledge, will seem very dense. For example 成语, it is a 4 character proverb in a sort that u first need basic understanding of the characters then how they connect together to form the 成语 and what it means.
If u have no desire to learn chinese there are dramas for each story and im sure u can find an english sub or dub version
If u want to be Chinese learning penpals i can post my contact and we can learn together as i am doing it rn.
>>8964250
Japanese is not better, even they looked up to the Chinese. Despite the bad times china went through in the past 2 centuries, there is still valuable artistic achievement from china. For example 三毛's works. There is also chinese tang poetry which imo surpasses all other poetry i have encountered so far.
There should be a chart for chinese lit.
I'm looking for a book or an essay analyzing the dangers inherent in the perpetual striving for refinement and sophistication, i.e. more and more complicated mating rituals, the accumulation of social cues that one needs recognize in order to properly function in society, or even the modern-day obsession with creating a "fractal" persona for oneself, etc.
It would be perfect if the book pointed to some historical events or movements that might've influenced said sophistication/refinement, for example the sexual revolution or the industrial revolution.
The closest I've found is "Sophistication: Rhetoric and the Rise of Self-Consciousness" by Mark Backman, which I already ordered on Amazon.
Before anyone asks: no, I'm not from /r9k/ or /pol/ and not looking for a flamewar.
>>8964076
> the modern-day obsession with creating a "fractal" persona for oneself, etc.
What is this?
>>8964082
Something like Baudrillard's "telemorphosis", constant state of experimentation and introspection which leads nowhere, but is pretty to look at and creates some "meaning" in life. Maybe I phrased it in a shitty way, sorry.
>>8964091
*semblance of "meaning"