9 years of drawing, he got worse.
How is this even possible?
>>2300004
Still better than what you could draw. Niggers been drawing long before you were learning pre-algebra loooooooool.
I know who's a beginner :^)
oh look it's this thread again
Hi /ic/
I have an important exam coming up and I lack some inspiration. Topic is ''The city'' and people that live in it/how they deal with it and also certain views of the city.
Anything would be helpful, e.g. drawings, photography, poetry.
(pic related, not by me though)
>>2299952
Check out the Ashcan School.
>>2299952
Eisner's comics?
>>2299952
Jeremy Mann
Post yours
>>2299912
/ic/ help please. You are the only place where i can openly ask this because i dont know any artists to talk to.
After some depression i got... i dont know how to explain it as other than "negative ability" or "curse" or "negative perk" or whatever.
Procrastination. And its awful.
It never was so bad before.
Im working on a project, but because of being lonely and depressive it started to damage my productivity. Im trying to draw something, spending almost a week for it while its the thing that can be done by 2 days. When i go to bed i feel so ashamed of myself, because i didn't do anything today and promise myself that i will do it tomorrow but it never happens.
When i get up, i feel depressive, everything hurts and i just sitting here with retarded face, slurping coffee and trying to feel better as day goes by. Im working on this project for more than a year already. I've done many things but right now i keep procrastinating.
I never faced anything like that. And the scariest thing for me - to make my client upset because its my friend and he hired me because when i was working with him 3 years ago, he was amazed by how fast i was, he was amazed by my quality and my fresh ideas. But i got so depressive over these 2-3 years and just scared to make him "understand that im not as good as i was".
Did anyone had such a horrible procrastination it almost damaged your career as artist?
This procrastination caused by loneliness and bad life situations and i cant really make it go away because im a freelance artist sitting in small room and nothing changes in my life.
But im not a bad artist, and i dont want to be a bad artist, i have many watchers everywhere and i have job here and there (all because i was doing nothing but drawing every day for years). But nobody knows about how bad my life is.
>>2299373
Tried not to make this look like a shitty blog but it kinda does at the end.
So please just keep the "how to do with procrastination when it went so bad you almost cant draw for days" over everything else.
Nothing will change by itself. You can't just wait to be happy, you won't be.
Sounds like you don't have a lot of self discipline.
Go outside once in a while. There's no magic trick, stop thinking of it as a "curse" that you can't control.
>>2299373
You can sit there trying to justify your mistakes and blame everything on "m-muh sadness and derpeshun :((((" but you only have yourself to blame. No outside matter is going to change your situation.
Is there any love for architectural drawings and / or models?
>>2299349
What's /ic/ opinion about his art?
>>2299283
i like his stuff
>>2299283
It has charm when someone else cleans up his vision, but it's now a blight that infected all of Blizzard's IPs. Lost all hope when the hd update to wow didn't fix the major flaws in design and even exacerbated some issues.
Incredible ability to tap into what kids want in a game. The more experienced I get the more I appreciate him. Not in an artistic way, but in a marketing sort of way.
HI there, I literally am the only person who can not improve from art. I've tried for years and I can't improve. I'm the rare person who can't ever get better at art no matter how much I practice.
Is there hope for me? I've tried and tried, but to no avail has anything worked.
You're not either not practicing right, or not practicing hard enough. Don't mindlessly copy, try to apply lessons to personal work, read the sticky.
>>2299236
If you keep doing the same mistakes over and over again you'll keep doing the same mistakes over and over again.
Can you make a living as an illustrator while keeping your personal life out of it? It seems like internet is filled with weird nerds who like to invade people's personal lives the moment they do or say something they don't like.
I'd like to make some cash on the side with my illustration, but I don't want people going after my facebook or my friends or knowing who I am.
>>2299171
LOL no. your work only has as much value as you manage to inflate it into by self promoting and become an e-celebrity.
>>2299171
Create a fake persona that almost anybody can like.
>>2299171
Simply operate under a pseudonym. It's been working for me so far. Just be careful not to have any connections to your rl information whatsoever. Don't put your real name on invoices and be careful not to give out TOO specific information and bam. I draw porn, so I don't want this coming back to me at all. I'm so paranoid, people aren't sure if im male or female-- which suits me just fine.
im looking for interesting shape languages to study
would be nice if you guys could dump a few cool ones
>>2299103
You're not supposed to symbol draw.
artist of the generation?
>>2299018
I am triggered by that shoulder
he has impressive turd-polishing skills though, can't deny that
>>2299022
nah it looks good
Basically, if you keep doing the same thing, you become good at one single thing. No more.
I'd call him "100 sameface portraits painter of the generation" easily.
I have read tons of Loomis but I still don't get how you are supposed to draw figures in extreme perspective angles. There was something about arcs of movement, but even there it was said that you should try to draw them until they "feel right".
It it really the case that you first memorize anatomy and then based on that knowledge try to imagine how it would look like in perspective and keep drawing and fixing until you will gradually learn to draw it right?
>>2298888
To clarify I meant drawing from imagination, not real life where drawing what you see is enough so long as you can get in the flow.
>>2298890
Also I know about perspective already and that figures should face the vanishing points/eye level etc.
>>2298888
>It it really the case that you first memorize anatomy and then based on that knowledge try to imagine how it would look like in perspective and keep drawing and fixing until you will gradually learn to draw it right?
I'm not really in a position to comment considering I've only just started with figure drawing, but it seems like thats the case. You figure out box/spherical/cylindrical forms and how they look at any angle and pair that with an understanding of proportion and anatomy and continuously draw figures from reference and imagination until it clicks. There will be a point if you keep at at long enough that you can draw pretty convincing figures with no construction lines from imagination and that just comes down to knowing what these forms look like from any angle and "feelin it" based on your knowledge of what it looks like when its properly constructed through simplified forms. I'm sure it involves a shit load of self criticism and feedback from other artists so you are consistently correcting mistakes
Have you been thinking about stopping the whole thing? Like, we will die, all of us. Why should we go for that suffering and go through all that hard ass shit. If you really want to enjoy life, just draw mediocre but enjoyable art. There is no reason to force that pain upon yourself, as I said, you will die eventually, what's the point of improving your skills?
Expressing the suffering in the pointlessness maybe even giving the tools needed to rise above the suffering of the mundane.
Art isn't about getting good, is that why you play games?
>>2298453
because other artists are thinking the same thing
>>2298453
Whats the point of learning anything then? Pretty dumb thread.
Just did this. looking for some feedback.
boring
maybe a good still panel in a comic
Well done.
>>2298313
face looks bad imo as well, too uncanny and theres some sort of angle or perspective error that im not gonna spend time figuring out
It's this good enough for an indie fighter?
>>2298301
good? no.
good enough? probably.
Study some pixel art tutorials as well as anatomy. A dedicated pixel art forum like pixeljoint would be best for you.
>>2298301
depends on how it's animated
if you animated dog shit well you could have a decent fg character
>>2298383
Right now I quit on the idea of even animating this, is too much effort.
Right now I just want to download spriter and see what I can do.
I'm not even a pro artist and I'm hoping some coder will help me.
What are good masters to study portraits from? I only know Sargent.
>>2298238
It really depends what style you like and what qualities in art you value. Personally I like people such as Van Dyck, Velazquez, Kramskoi, Serov, Repin, Franz Hals, Boldini, Rembrandt, and Freud. Do some research and see what artists you like and what time period they are from--usually there are other artists from the same school or country that have similar styles.
>>2298238
van gogh. he was the greatest portraitist who ever lived :( he's also the hardest to study.
>>2298260
I like asian school ruanjia, weifeng, hgj