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How is WWII taught in Germany and Japan? What about Fance and Italy?
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>>429835
German here:
Hardly any. In school itself I hardly learned anything about WWII itself, it's more focused on the state of the third Reich.
You have to understand the way history is thought in Germany though:
From year 5 (approximate age 10) to year 10 the churriculum is teaching history backwards, so in year 5 you have stone age and neolithic revolution, year 6 is old Greece, year 7 the Roman Empire, 8 the middle ages (mostly HRE), 9 the 19th century and 10 the 20th. However alot of it is up to the individual teacher and often enough they won't manage to teach you everything they should (for example I remember my history book having chapters for the late Roman/Byzantine/early Holy Roman Empire, despite us never actually reaching it. Teachers tend to know this so they focus on the more important stuff (or what they regard as such). For example I didn't have too much about the WW2 era and more about the division of Germany.
After year 10 it's closer to a university style system with the teachers selecting certain 'structures' and then picking examples over time. For example for year 11 my teacher choose Imperialism (or something like that) and we mostly focused the spanish Empire and a bit on the Imperialism in China.
All of this is for the Gymnasium, I don't know if Haupt- and Realschule teach it differently.
The thing is that it's not quite as 'MUH 6 MILLION' as people would like you to believe but it's still a pretty big part. However I would say that the real focus is on Hitlers rise to power and understanding how this was possible. The actual reign and the War are secondary topics (and considering most documentaries focus on these I don't really mind it too much)

tl;dr: Not very much, hardly anything about the war, more about the state itself.
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>>429835

German was viewed as the primary antagonist of world war 2. The result is that they were treated harsher in the post-war world. Germany was subjected to de-nazification processes which were meant to re-educate people. It was a bit of a hypocracy tho because in some places were competent organizers were needed, some of the war era nazis were just allowed to keep their jobs if there was a shortage of organizers.

Add to that the Korean war, in which Japan suddenly found itself as the primary base for Allied military planning and organization just a few years after World war 2. As a result, pro-Imperial sentiments in Japan was actually brushed aside to an extent that Naziism was not in Germany.

Today, Germany views World War 2 as it's fault and that nazis are bad and must never happen again and this is why the rise of Naziism is a bigger issue in Germany than in other countries.

In Japan, the emperor was allowed to keep his job and people go to pray to statues of Kamikaze pilots. You see, there was very little re-education done in Japan...
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>>429835
France here

Basically, we heroically stood against the Germans but lost because of British betrayal.
Then we resisted for 4 years until we liberated ourselves (with little help from USA) in 1944 and invaded Germany

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What would have happen if Napoleon had won Waterloo and set his gaze on the new world?

Considering the good relations with the americans due to the help of France for their war of independance less than 50 years ago would that friendship still had remained?

Or would he had conquered the rest of the known world?
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>>429386
He would have probably freed Quebec that is for sure.
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>>429386
>What would have happen if Napoleon had won Waterloo

He'd have lost the next battle
War was unwinnable (pic related)

For Napoleon to remain in power, you have to go as far as the 1812 disaster
If he hadnt invaded Russia, he probably wouldnt have been defeated
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>>429403
alright lets say he won all the known battles in Europe and didnt invade Russia in winter.

What then?

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Any good books on Mycenean Greece /his/?
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>>429236
>cow camouflage for ambushes from cows
kek
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>>429260
It's liek you neber eben played Farao.
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The Iliad

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Are the mind and body separate?
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Well we have the brain, when people think you can see different portions of their brain light up with activity when its scanned. Of course I'm not familiar with the arguments for the mind being separate so I'm still open to the possibility that the mind could exist separate but as of now I see no reason why it could
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Which mind?
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>>428894
>mind is in the brain
>brain is in the body
>mind is the body
Hypothetical Syllogisms are always valid

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why was it called the Divine Comedy?


it wasn't very funny
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>>428094
Because it had a happy ending
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Comedy in that sense is a story with a happy or at least okay ending.
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>>428094
Ye olde words, anon.

Once upon a time, fiction was divided into comedy and tragedy, with extremely broad definitions of both terms that bore little resemblance to the modern usage.

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Scientists always fall for the logical positivism meme. And they don't even realize it's a philosophical position with philosophical justifications....

They're pretty dumb to be honest. They have massive tunnel vision and because of that they don't realize their epistemic assumptions and treat the scientific methodology as axiomatic, they think it's common sense. And when someone approaches a problem with a different epistemological framework they think it's bullshit...

They're simply very bad at thinking outside of a scientific framework. Thoughts?
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I very much agree. Scientists really need to stick to science. Every time Stephen Hawking talks about something not science, especially philosophy, I cringe. Now I am sure there are some scientists who are capable of philosophical study and thought, but the mainstream ones are wholly unfit for it. These scientists believe we can enter a "post-philosophical age", which in itself is a philosophy. You can't stop doing philosophy because it's meta-everything.
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>>427415
>and treat the scientific methodology as axiomatic
like every single epistemological framework ever.

>And when someone approaches a problem with a different epistemological framework they think it's bullshit

Thats their fucking job: to do science. They're not gonna care about other epistemological frameworks. They admit scientific methodology as their ideal and work from there.
Your issue isnt with scientists (even though I feel from your text and the pic you posted, its a very specific group of scientists...) but with a society that more and more gives ultimate credence to science as the provider of knowledge.

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howdy, germanic servants
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you leave the Saxons alone you bully.
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>>427395
Franks are Germanic m8.
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Hello, friend. I couldn't help but notice that barbarian tribes hailing from Asian and Afro-Arab territories have ruined our European masters.

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http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/news/local/startling-new-report-on-oak-island-could-rewrite-history-of-the-americas-1-7118097

What are your thoughts on this, /his/? This is pretty close to where I live.

TL;DR Roman artifacts and a Roman ship greatly preceding Christopher Columbus have been discovered on the East Coast, in Nova Scotia.
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Other anons, how true is this article?

Personally, I'm not surprised that loners from a superpower traveled far and found north America.
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The real trick wouldn't have been getting to America.

It would have been getting back.

Given how much maritime trade there was in classical antiquity, it doesn't surprise me that at least one ship would fuck up so badly they'd inadvertently conquer the Atlantic. But without triangular sails, booms, or any knowledge of the prevailing winds, it would be impossible to return to Europe.
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>>426818
"Damn it Maximus, now look what you've done."

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Has anyone who was not a king or emperor every claimed to be a god or an incarnation of a god, besides Jesus?
Have any of them had a significant following?
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>Has anyone claimed to be a god or an incarnation of a god
Thousands
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>>426117
I'm sure thousands of crazy people have. But in any other significant religion has someone claimed to be a god?
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WE WUZ GODS AND SHIT

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Why did the Roman Republic fail to become the world's first industrialized country?
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>>423717
because the world isn't fucking sid meir's Civilization where you can just research techs in order.
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>>423726
wood be cool though...
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>>423717
Roman infrastructure is overhyped.

Infrastructure gives rise to industrialization.

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What was Soviet pop culture like? Is it possible for pop culture to thrive in a non-capitalist country?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwFC626lRT4

You'll be surprised then. Their pop culture wasn't really that much different. Just not commercialised.

I know that in Poland they also developed music not unlike how it was in the west at the same time.
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It was pretty vibrant, especially in the 80s

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Was he a racist white-supremacist who ruthlessly suppressed the black African minority in Rhodesia, or was he a misunderstood genuinely good character who did hat he could for the country to succeed?
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Neither, he was just doing his duty.
Ian Smith dared Mugabe to walk through downtown Salisbury with him in the afternoon, with no security.
Mugabe quickly declined, as he knew only Ian Smith would walk back alive, as Mugabe would be torn to bits by the local population.
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South Rhodesia never had anything like moral high ground so the second option is impossible
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>>412092
both.
suppressing the black population is a good first step in making your country successful. you can see what happens when you don't suppress them.

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Have any examples of awful artworks been preserved from the renaissance? I mean, if the modern day analogue of Raphael is, say, Stanley Kubrick, who was the renaissance analogue of Michael Bay?
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Bay makes good movies you fag
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>>431401
El Greco would be Tim Burton
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>>431459
But the Greco was great

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There seems to be an innate human desire to do exceptional things. Where does this desire come from?
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How can you say that? For some people there is that desire, but most people are perfectly fine with mediocrity.
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>>431379
Well if you fucked a qt 3.14 every day you would have the desire to do literally anything you want. sky is the limit
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>>431379
There's probably millions of different explanations for ambition, I guess the easy explanation is evolutionary.

>ambitious man hunts with the most enthusiasm, gets the most meat/outruns the whatever
>gets the most food/fucks the most women/outruns the tiger the best
>passes on genes

And a million other reasons.

Am i missing out much?
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>>430772
Yes
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>>430772
No.
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>>430772
I don't know.

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