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Give me some motherfucking Medieval European art
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Some Western Rite Orthodox parishes still use Western Medieval style artwork.

Here is the French Orthodox Liturgy, it dates from the 6th Century.
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>>540461
Forgot the Liturgy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGvjx1102U8
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The "Dove of Peace," 12th century, from Old Saint Peter's Basilica in Rome

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>What's your favorite verse(s)?
>What's your favorite book of the Bible?
>What book of the Bible are you reading right now?
>How often do you read your Bible?
>Has anything you read recently changed your life or the way you think? If so what did you read and how did it affect you?
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Favourite verse: I am the way, the truth and the life.
Favourite book: Jonah
Currently reading: Samuel 2
Read the bible every second day or so.
Was reading proverbs a few days ago and found myself conflicted, should I follow instruction and gain wisdom, or keep my pride. Seems simple when it is laid out before you, but pride is a tough cookie to swallow.
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>>540277
Post it on /lit/ son. But I'll play (not in order though).
>Has anything you read recently changed your life or the way you think? If so what did you read and how did it affect you?

When I realized Archaeology did not correlated with it what it said, and looked into plagiarism it got from Mesopotamian myths I realized it was full of shit and the Bible made me an atheist. Though I don't debate it much, so If you are a believer god-bless I care not, and If you want to debate the validity of it debate with the scholars and archaeologists, not me.

>What's your favorite book of the Bible?
All pauline works desu
>I see jeeeezuz in my dreams respect mah authoritah
What a guy, no wonder early apostlest didn't liked him much.

>What's your favorite verse(s)?
Beginning of Ecclesiastes, Vanity of Vanities all is vanity.

>What book of the Bible are you reading right now?
I don't. I'm reading Origen though

>How often do you read your Bible?
I like to read more about Church Fathers than Bible only but while reading the Church Fathers you consult to Bible naturally.
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>>540277
>>What's your favorite verse(s)?

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
- Mt 10:16

>>What's your favorite book of the Bible?

Psalms.

>>What book of the Bible are you reading right now?

2 Chronicles

>>How often do you read your Bible?

I try to read it everyday but I miss some here and there.

>>Has anything you read recently changed your life or the way you think? If so what did you read and how did it affect you?

My pastor preached on Philippians this morning and he did a really amazing job communicating Paul's holy attitude towards his captivity in Rome. Rather being discouraged by his imprisonment, Paul rejoiced because it was an opportunity to demonstrate his willingness to suffer for Christ's sake.

Is there an edgier person in history than LBJ? He was edgier than dictators that would openly commit genocide their entire career.
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>>540200
>that quote

[citation needed]
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>>540214
It may or may not be a real quote. It first appeared in Ronald Kessler's book in 1996, obviously substantially later than LBJ's presidency. We'll never know if it was actually authentic.

LBJ definitely used "nigger," there are plenty of well-authenticated examples of that. But the quote, as Kessler described it, was said in the company of two Southern governors - that is, southern Democrats who were probably not big fans of civil rights. (I'm not sure what "like minded" means in this context - that they were all Democrats? Like-minded about what? And "confided" sounds like a value judgment, making it sound sneaky and conspiratorial without any basis.)

One thing LBJ was really good at was molding himself to work over other people; he could be overbearing and intimidating, or he could flatter and suck up to people, even as the president, if he thought that was the best way to get them to do what he wanted. Saying "hey you guys know I'm just doing all this to get the niggers to vote for us right" in a private meeting with two southern Democrats is completely in line with how LBJ did politics.

It's kind of funny that we are constantly calling politicians slippery liars, yet with quotes like this one people seem to automatically believe it is a full, honest portrayal of the politician's soul. Biographers and scholars of LBJ generally agree that he had a lot of sympathy for American blacks and was genuinely supportive of civil rights, and it's much more likely that this quote - if it was actually said - was him attempting to buddy up to some Southern good ol' boys rather than a true confession of his political aims.
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LBJ would insist on holding meetings while he was on the toilet. The famous "Johnson treatment" included the president staring you down to the sound of his shit splashing into the bowl below.

He also nicknamed his penis "Jumbo."

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What options did a noble girl have if she didn't want to marry the husband her father chose for her?
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Rape or a quick trip to heaven
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>>540188
>Implying the noble girl had a choice

kekek
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>>540188
Nunnery.

Also known as the local brothel for priests.

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Is imperialism strictly a white thing?

We had the choice to not sack Muslims out of revenge during the Crusades but we still did, and we still reacted to the decline of the scholastic Golden Age by going to fucking America.

How would history have been different if we had stuck with the more modest option during the Middle Ages?
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>>540179
>Is imperialism strictly a white thing?
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>>540179
What is the Ottoman Empire?
What is the Mongol Empire?
What are the various SA Empires?
You get my point? Imperialism is not an exclusively white thing
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>>540179
Humanity doesnt make collective choices on direction. The crusades were privately funded endeavors. The church and local Kingdoms independently raised the capital and men to wage the crusades, and as such when the money ran out, so did the fervor to fight such a war. Propaganda could only substitute for gold and silver for so long, before the desire to lose ones life in a foreign land for literally nothing was less appealing than ceding a rotten hell-hole in the desert.

There was a simultaneous existence of domestic feudalism, and mercenary warfare during the middle ages.

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After ravenously consuming folklore & mythology I noticed some weird patterns.

All over the world people seem to share taboos over names. Mayan people never called the jaguar by its true name, various European cultures used codewords for the Bear, and even people like the Zulu never called the leopard a leopard in Zulu under most circumstances.

Another thing I notice is that people were very apprehensive about giving out their real names to strangers, many using "public" names and "true" names.

Why is that?

Also, why did cultures worldwide try to seclude girls in the dark when they had their first periods?

Why did completely unrelated people feel the need to sacrifice animals, plants, and even people to supernatural beings? Even christians believe that death and blood were needed to save mankind. So often you see gods dying and being resurrected for the greater good.
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Read The Hero With 1000 Faces by Joseph Campbell.
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>>540295
I wasn't very fond of it
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>>540145
clearly because there are esoteric elements to things we think are mundane, OP. magical principles, if you will.

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Mods are asleep, post absolute madmen
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The Orthodox Diogenes

>born a serf
>goes around shoplifting and giving to poor
>walks around wearing nothing but chains
>rebukes Czar
>canonized

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Why do the lower classes always fight among themselves instead of joining together?

Why is there this crab in a barrel mentality rather than everyone banding together to accomplish something?
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Why do you assume they have common interests?
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What is the fall
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>>539895
"Classes" are relative

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Can someone please explain to me how the Q source theory is more viable than the account given by Papias of Hierapolis? The synoptic Gospels cover a lot of the same territory, but...they don't do it verbatim, they do it in different styles, and except for Luke (which was the only Gospel not written by one of Christ's direct disciples), in very Hebraic syntax and style, which evinces a translation (Harold Bloom criticized the literary merit of the Gospels precisely because they read like they are written in the style and syntax of Hebrew or Aramaic, which he finds unsuitable to Greek). Then there is the this idea that the Gospel of John came from a wildly different sect than the rest of the Gospels, when the truth is simply that the Gospel of John was the Gospel that was only for full Christians (even today, before saying the Nicene Creed, which takes the place of the traditional Christian confession formula stating Jesus Christ is God, the Orthodox Church says "guard the doors!", which was something started to give the alarm in case Pharisees were coming by, and this is also the time when catechumens, that is, Christians who were not fully initiated, had to depart).

The biggest mark against Papias' account is---the Gospels give indications that the Temple of Jerusalem will be destroyed (now that Christ's Body replaces it), so historians beg the question and say they must have been composed after the Destruction of the Temple, since actually predicting it is out of the question.
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>Can someone please explain to me why my religion is bullshit
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>>539911
I'm just talking about theory of the origin of the Gospels, not their validity.
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>>539995
written by the flavian historians, now you can stop your ceasar worship

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Hello friends. Just wanted to know your thoughts on Dan Carlin and the Hardcore History podcast.
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>>539302
also any good history related podcasts you would recommend?
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Why does Dan Carlin always have an edgy "hardcore" look on his face?
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>>539302

It serves two excellent purposes: firstly, to offer an accessible digest of historical consensus on major historical events, and secondly, to provide a hate-totem for desperately insecure history students (and presumably the occasional autodidact).

>>539376

He probably thinks he'd look stupid smiling.

Opinions on this book? I don't know much about the Mongols, but the conclusions drawn seem pretty far-fetched and unsubstantiated.
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>>538881
I read this, there was some ok stuff in here but theres a shit ton of revisionist history about Genghis Khan not killing that many people.

I mean, all of those contemporary chroniclers tearing their hair out because of witnessing hundreds of thousands massacred across different continents and cultures must of all been making it up right?
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>>538891

While the Mongols killed a lot of people, medieval chroniclers are known to exaggerate death tolls either to make the side they support seem more bad ass or to make the side they don't support seem more evil.

Most deaths caused by the Mongols were probably caused by their destruction of infrastructure, not simply their slaughtering people with swords
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>>538881
>dude the mongols are so cool XD
Garbage.

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Don't you find it odd that atheists say "God doesn't exist," when the God they say doesn't exist was determined by a man who was in the trough of an intellectual wave created by war, famine, and death, and who is almost universally deemed as the worst philosopher of European history? Almost all, save the modern Protestant devotees who back Ockham as being on par with Thomas Aquinas. Fools.

So yes, atheists, good job. You have successfully swatted a theological fly. Congratulations.
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Diagoras of Melos wasn't as bad as all that
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>>538806
He didn't even try to disprove god, he just said there was none. Just like atheists. Such pristine thinkers.
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Allah exists.

God (YHVH, the Lord) doesn't.

Checkmate, Christian scum.

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>humans are only driven by fear and greed

what are the best arguments for and against, /his?
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Sex
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>>538622
fear of letting bloodline end?
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>>538631
>>>538631
fear of not getting laid

What's the fallacy or whatever called when someone you're arguing says "just google it, it's fact"
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>>538585
common knxwledge fallacy
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it's not a fallacy, it's you being butthurt by being exposed as lacking in knowledge
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>>538602
the moon landing never happened, just google it, it's a fact

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So you want to learn about the First World War? I have some helpful links for you.

First, an introductory video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbwH1ZBnYds

There's a YouTube channel, The Great War, which is going through the First World War every week as it happened 100 years ago. That means the show won't end until 2018. The show does a decent job at introducing some material, but like most YouTube shows, each episode lasts only a few minutes and skims over content. Just my opinion, but I feel like the show pads itself with too much focus on battles, could use a little diversity in the topics:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheGreatWar

I recommend watching the show, but only for an easygoing introduction into the various topics of WW1. Whenever the show introduces a new concept, such as the Schlieffen-Plan, I recommend using this website:

http://www.firstworldwar.com

The above website is an extensive database of all things WW1.

If you prefer a book, I personally like "The First World War" by John Keegan, though I'm sure there's better books out there.

WW1 has been the basis for a lot of great movies. "All Quiet on the Western Front" shows the extreme nationalism of European countries as well as the horrors of trench warfare. "Lawrence of Arabia" is an epic following the titular character on his quest to lead the Arab Revolt against the Ottoman Empire.
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Here's a guide to WW1 films.
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These things are a must read unless you wish to repeat faggot tier memery about WW1 and its aftermath:

Sally Marks
The Myths of Reparations
http://www.jstor.org/stable/4545835?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Holger H. Herwig
Clio Deceived: Patriotic Self-Censorship in Germany after the Great War
http://vi.uh.edu/pages/buzzmat/DH%20articles/HerwigClioDeceived.pdf
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>>538498
>the 10/10 show that is anzacs stuck down there in "others"
bah humbug

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