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Daily reminder that the Holy Roman Empire outlived its French rival by a couple of years.
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>>589409
It was edstroyed by its french rivals, dumb shit

btw

>holy
>roman
>empire
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>>589420
>Implying the French monarchy didn't turn out to be a failed state
>implying the republic was identical with Royal France

Try again. Try harder.

Charlemagne's realm split into two pieces and the German part survived longer. Therefore: HRE>France
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>>589431
>Therefore: HRE>France
Senpai, that's pretty bad logic to live by
Ottoman Empire beats HRE by that standard

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Make your argument for the worst person who's ever lived.

I say it's Lenin.

>tricked the starving, war-weary Russian people into giving him authority

>dismantled the parliament, soviets, and all other democratic institutions to hoard power for himself

>killed 8 million Ukranians, and countless others

>set left-wing ideology back by a century, by destroying it's moral high ground and allowing it to be portrayed (correctly) as evil and inhumane

>generally ruined Russia and eastern Europe, leaving them decades behind the west even today
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I say OP
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>>589381
I agree.
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Mao, pretty much the same thing, but for East Asia

>forced massive population boom from 600 million to over 1 billion people within thirty years fucking up everything, land and resource use in asia

>destroyed ethnic national identities of peoples in asia (Tibetans, Manchus, Uyghurs, Mongols)

>destroyed Chinese civilization, culture and identity, turning them into uncloth, barbaric trash and peasants

>created a hivemind of a billion soulless chinese jews, while distancing china from russia and creating a parasitic relationship with the US we can't get out of

>chinese people devoid of feelings, emotions, happiness, empathy. like soulless communist drones

>split apart korea, caused vietnam and the entire southeast asia to fall under communism

>destroyed the environment, making half of china uninhabitable, due to smog, land degradation, etc

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I was wondering, why didn't Austro-Hungary form what is modern day Germany? By the 1800's it was bigger then Prussia, and has more support in most of the German states to my opinion. What went wrong? Also general "Why didn't" thread.
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>>589356
Wrong fucking picture.
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Because France spent centuries constantly cockblocking Austria all the way since the first Habsburgs for exactly that reason, until Austria became too irrelevant to do anything.

Unfortunately France became so focused on cockblocking Austria that warring Austria became a French tradition, and so in the absence of any great political thinkers France sided with Prussia against Austria in the Austrian War of Succession. This gave Prussia Silesia and turned it into a major power in Germany, and a rival to French influence. Then the Seven Years War happened, and the coalition wars, and finally the German unification wars, and each time Prussia gained more power by defeating France with the support of Britain, which saw a large Prussian empire as a good thing to counter French power.
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because they didn't want to

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwh6078A-VU
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The entire Iron Maiden discography
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREUrbGGrgM
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Today's Queen Sforza's great ball,
Mice were poisoned, lanterns hung
and they paid off the singers.
I feel my jester face paling,
for I just read about loss of Smoleńsk,
but where's Smoleńsk, where's Kraków.

Message is sure, signatures and stamps,
but the queen frowns upon it.
Bills worry her much more.
I tie my fingers, lazy and tired,
because here is surely a dozen generals,
and they have a jolly good time!

If I could move the greatest of bells,
I'd bring them to the highest tone,
and ring them, ring in alarm!
But with jingles on my cap
and my bauble as an advisor,
who, oh who can I alert!

"Stańczyk!" - they cry -"Bring him to us"
Music and food had started to bore them.
They need to laugh at the fool.
I'm not a good jester for this times,
among the silk and golden tassels
find me a buyer for wisdom.

But no wisdom replaces the feelings,
that are with me this night, like all others.
No matter how loud's the music
I sit here, like a mute,
but why the jingles miserably ring.

This mad woman hungry for power,
swaps documents, ignores raports,
she carries out secret treaties!
Tell me she's wise, of a great family,
that east is to be ruled by west hand,
but I can't stand that bitch!

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Why are hipsters converting to Christianity now?
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>>589100
Pure Contrarianism
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1. they aren't strong

2. they wanna be reactionary without imperialistic beliefs
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But why not convert to Nation of Islam or some shit?

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After binge watching this show's first season I've fully realized how comfy we have it not. Seeing that almost all roofs are made of grass and that buildings have no insulation or thickness is crazy. So when did villages start to become recognizable to today's standards?
Age of Colonialism?
Age of Imperialism?
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>>589029
Good bait, I almost feel bad calling it so early
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>>589029
A think layer of grass would act as insulation though (trapping air), not as effective obviously.

Lack of comfy thread?
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>>589046
Based mammoth bone huts from Ice age Ukraine.

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Daily reminder that David Hume is the most powerful philosopher to have ever lived.
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>>589002
If you think there's something wrong with metaphysics you are a self-deluded greasy neckbeard atheist that convinced himself he can bear his absurd existence by trying to "understand" what little he can by tying reality to empirical laws produced by the very same organ that can produce the said metaphysics
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>>589040

Science is metasphysics. The bit of metaphysics that works.
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>>589040
>If you think there's something wrong with metaphysics you are a self-deluded greasy neckbeard atheist that convinced himself he can bear his absurd existence by trying to "understand" what little he can by tying reality to empirical laws produced by the very same organ that can produce the said metaphysics
>2015
>being a retard

I'm sorry for your diagnosis.

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Were the Romans justified in taking Jesus as a rebel?
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>>588999

Who knows.

We don't have any decent historical sources detailing what happened.
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>>589009
This.

>>588999
Ask your question as a proper theological question.
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>>589010
How do I do that?

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What was the most ingenious/creative/absolutely mad successful tactical move ever made during a battle?
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>>588997
Knocking down your own city wall in a siege, tying a bunch of swords and spears to your cattle and then setting their tails on fire before letting them loose on the besiegers. This was first used in 279 BC and was last used in the 30s during the Chinese civil war.
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>>588997
Ukrainian Jewish Partisans.

They received word that the SS were coming to liquidiate their ghetto and did the following...

>Open the gates
>Hide in prepared positions
>Light everything in the ghetto on fire and I mean fucking everything.
>Germans are now far into the ghetto and surrounded by fucking fire on all sides.
>Resistance fighters open fire and make a bee-line for the German's vehicles.
>Succesfully steal said vehicles.
>Tear ass out of a burning ghetto while leaving the Germans there to try and escape.

The absolute fucking madmen. Sublime... Just sublime.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Pelusium_(525_BC)

CATS

no contest

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I woke up with an intense feeling of anger toward philosophical realists so I'm making a post about it. tl;dr Realism is bullshit.

Suppose you are born in a room from which the outside world cannot be seen. Descartes' demon is clearly and visibly in the same room with you. It reacts in a predictable (though not necessarily deterministic) way to your actions but does not talk to you directly. It does not let you leave the room or study the outside world. Soon enough you learn which actions lead to which results. Although you gain mastery over the rules of the room you cannot ever know whether they are real and universal or just the arbitrary inventions of the demon.

One day another person is created by the demon. The person insists that certain actions are moral, certain things and beautiful, and that the laws of the room necessarily apply to the outside world. When pushed on how he knows these things he states that while there is no indication from within the room that a certain thing is objectively moral or beautiful there is also no way to tell whether the room's rules are objective in themselves, so if you choose to act according to the room's rules for which there is no rigorous epistemological proof then it is only consistent to accept other ideas similarly lacking in rigorous proof.

Here's the thing: you have no choice but to accept the room's rules if you want the demon to treat you well. The universe's rules might or might not match the demon's but there is, as far as anyone knows, no way to tell. While you are under the demon's mercy acting according to the demon's rules is the only way to at least perceive yourself as having reached the goals of the actions you performed. There is no other starting point for building a model by which you can navigate the world. You MUST accept the demon's rules not as absolute truth but as the only thing you have to work with. There is no similar force coercing you to accept objective aesthetics or morality!
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>>588964
>Realism is bullshit

So you're asserting that reality isn't real? Or that we can't know the the true nature of the real?

>Although you gain mastery over the rules of the room you cannot ever know whether they are real and universal or just the arbitrary inventions of the demon.

so the room isn't real? Then the room does not exist.

>no indication from within the room that a certain thing is objectively moral

You can't derive morals from empirical study. See the is-ought problem.
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>>588964
>predictable (though not necessarily deterministic)

LOL
OLO
LOL
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>>588964
>if you want the demon to treat you well

What if I want the demon to treat me badly?

>universe's rules might or might not match the demon's

Does the demon exist outside reality? Are you saying the demon isn't real?

>coercing you to accept objective aesthetics or morality

If you need to be coerced into accepting objective morals than you wouldn't accept them anyways.

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Hey /his/,

I have the feeling that not many Turks actually settled the Balkans, and that people who claim to be related to Turks, like Muslims in Bosnia, actually aren't. The thing is whenever I look up some Ottoman vizier in the Balkans, he seems to be of Serb, Greek or Albanian origin. I know that many Janissaries later went into administrative offices, and they were former Christians too. I also know that many nobles converted to Islam, and also that Njegos in his "Mountain Wreath" talks about murdering converts, but never actually about Turks.

So my question is, when the Christians drove out the Muslims at the end of the Balkan wars, did they actually drive out their own kind?

I wasn't able to find a list of viziers, but here's a list of grand viziers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ottoman_Grand_Viziers
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I am also asking this because people from Istanbul look facially similar to Balkanniggers, but not as much to Turks from Antalya (at least the once I've met). Are they actually displaced Balkanniggers?
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Here's one more genetic map.
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And here's a last one.

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Alright, so. Say I want to study the migration and low medieval periods. Specifically the history of what is now Germany, Scandinavia and Post-Roman Britain.

How do I learn old norse or perhaps old Frankonian?

Easy Mode: Frisian.
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>>588777
You go to school, and take those trips with you.
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>>588777
Is that from fucking shitstone? Kill yourself
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>>588783
I am. I go to a top 100 American university. We offer a raft of extinct languages.

Those aren't among them.

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ITT: Frauds & Phonies
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How do you reconcile religion with secular government? Do religions not purport to offer the ultimate path to social harmony? If so, how can one be truly faithful while supporting governance that is not explicitly religious?
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>>588709
That God is not present is manifest; religion is just a useful too to keep those who lack the brain power or the will to examine their lives in check. Its coexistence with secular governments is a kind of doublethink; just don't think about it too much and you have nothing to worry about
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>>588728
*flips menorah*
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>>588734
Let me further explain my point with an analogy. I am a gay man. For a long time I would fap to pictures of men, yet I would call myself straight in good conscience. It's not that I was trying to justify my desires to myself; it's just that I never made that mental leap because I never had a reason too. Similarly, many people live their lives full of contradictions they never notice because they have no reason to. The religious one is just one of these

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What empire had the least graceful fall from grace and why is it the Spanish Empire?
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Idk the Ottoman Empire fell pretty hard. Likewise the British
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>>588717
US foreign policy at this point is literally "If we cant conquer it, we'll give it to spain! Those bitches probably wont even be able to contain unrest and we can swoop in later"
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>>588717
>fight in two world wars
>country is exhausted
>nationalist movements happening all over the empire
>give them independence

Sounds as graceful end to Empire as you can get hope for

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