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Tell me about the Song /his/
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Not as good as the Tang.
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>>613668
>>613677
>Song
>Tang
Not based Qin.
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Renowned as a cultural high point for China even more so than the Tang, introduced the Confucian exam system and a number of dubious practices as well (i.e foot binding)

Had an absolutely garbage tier military that couldnt even defend its botders so the Song became experts at diplomacy and payed off tribes which worked well until Genghis united them.

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Official Sam Harris thread. Seems that everyone on 4chan misunderstands this guy =(
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>>613221
Religion is mind rape
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>>613221
What is there to misunderstand exactly? I always thought his position was pretty straightforward.
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Religion is the root cause of rape.

ITT: Historical Irony
>Be me
>Be Crusader during 4th Crusade
>"Oh boy, we're killin' us some Saracens today!"
>"Let's sack a Christian city first though..."
>"Fuck it mang, let's betray and conquer a Christian buffer state and fuck up their economy, military and infrastructure instead"
>"What we're we here for again?"
>"Saracens? Literally who?"
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>Be France
>Fight Britain to permit bunch of North American taxe evaders to become independent
>Two centuries later, the country they formed becomes a superpower and makes English language replace French as the world's lingua franca
>A bit after that, said superpower uses its huge cultural domination to make the world see France, the country that won their independence war, as a bunch of pussies that never won a war

Always makes me kek, poor frogs...
Newxt time they'll think twice before helping a bunch of traitors
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>>611670
Fuck you , Frog is our greatest ally
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>>611670
I don't like anglos as much as the same guy, but after Napoleon, the frogs deserved an assraping.

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Why is Anthropology taken so seriously in the "science" world? The entire discipline is based on the assumption of evolution when it's completely impossible to dismiss the possibility of creationism.

>believes in the Homo erectus
>literally out of africa
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>2016
>Being a creationist
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>>611552
Friend if you want to add religious elements to the discussion tell me what makes you think evolution and creationism do not go hand in hand.

I've read the bible very carefully - there are no direct or precise explanations but rather the general idea of God being the origination point and the supreme Creator, guider of creation - but it does not say God did this according to our concepts, it is said God works in mysterious ways that humans are not able to understand.

Do not dismiss evolution, it is backed by so much proof and its laboratory tested.

Adam was not physical, Eden was not part of this universe - it came down here. Adam took human flesh - this is a lower state of being.

What the tradition explains about this is that the human soul got created when Adam took human flesh. There is no one to say that evolution did not happen in this reality for the conditions of man to be fully developed.

You should read what the early holy fathers wrote about the chapter of Genesis, also what the athonite monks wrote about it - they describe it in great details.
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American/10

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Hey /his/ I have a Particular interest in the foreign Waffen SS volunteers. Where they heroes or Traitors? Also lets talk about the:
>Tactics
>formations
>Motives for signing up
and Especially the Battle of Narva.
No /pol/ tier comments please
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>>611295
Can't say much but some of the last defenders in Berlin were French SS troops

Granted, it's because they would have been hanged and tried after the war, but that's besides the point, a lot of brave fuckers
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>>611309
But it seems Unnatural to me to fight for a Foriegn Invader, Even if they share your politics
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By the end of 1943 almost none of them were volunteers.

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I'm tired of leading a non religious life /His/. Do your greatest to sway in favour of a denomination. Here's some backstory:

>went to Catholic school because it was only Christan school in my city
>went to Christian reformed church on Sunday's for whatever reason
>teen years come stop going
>altogether stop thinking about religion in my life
>lowest I've felt in my life 16-19 now

Help me find Christ senpai.
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>>610457
If religion is the only thing that can keep you happy, I think you need to rethink your life, fampai. Maybe take up a hobby or something.
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>>610457

Go for a religion that doesn't require you to deliberately mistranslate its own holy books in order to make sense.
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>>610457
>I'm tired of leading a non religious life /His/.
And people claim Christianity isn't a meme religion.

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Did modernism save art from becoming stale?

pic related, it's Dada art
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>>610264
>"save"
Automatic shit thread.
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>>610272
Autists need not apply.
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Was art ever good?

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I myself am a meat eater. I do however recognize the need for the human race to shift to a vegetarian based diet if we are to feed everyone in this world the same way we feed ourselves in the 1st world. Add to that, naturally occuring fresh water levels are going to go down from roughly 5% of the worlds water to 3% in the coming century which means we are going to have to make priorities.

So far, the only reason I have for not shifting to a vegetarian diet is a cynical one -

"I do believe the world is fucked no matter what I do, so why not enjoy it while I can?"

Obviously, summed up in a sentence like that, it sounds awfully edgy. But I'm curious, are there any valid moral arguments for still eating meat and not going vegetarian? We can substitute all of the nutritional elements with healthier alternatives.
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you make several false assumptions

>third world lives have value
>wild game only exists in first world countried
>a country cannot filter fresh water from seawater
2050!=1990s
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>>609945

>third world lives have value
Let's assume, for arguments sake, and since we're not retards, that they do. If you don't agree, state why and how it applies.

>wild game only exists in first world countried
How does this apply?

>a country cannot filter fresh water from seawater
I did not assume such a thing at all but I know it's a very expensive process. If it were easy and cheap, we wouldn't have a drought in California.
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The solution is "the third world gets its fucking population under control".

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How come Slavs expanded over such a huge territory in such a short time span?

Is it likely that proto-Slavic was a language of the military caste of the Avar khaganate?

That would explain this rapid expansion, remarkably low variation between Slavic languages; compared to the Romance or Germanic family; and seamless and quick assimilation of Avars. However, it wouldn't explain East Slavic migration.

Btw, what happened to Iranian tribes in Eastern Europe (Sarmatians, Scythians etc.)?
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>>609819
>How come Slavs expanded over such a huge territory in such a short time span?
Power vacuum after the collapse of the Roman Empire and the German and Avars migrations.
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>>609819
>Is it likely that proto-Slavic was a language of the military caste of the Avar khaganate?
>That would explain this rapid expansion, remarkably low variation between Slavic languages

Such language would almost certainly contain simplified grammar. Moreover, each modern language would contain lots of loanwords, especially for terms not related to military and government.

And it's obvious that Slavic languages are not like that. Their grammar is perhaps the most archaic among modern Indoeuropean groups (Lithuanian tops Slavic languages only in terms of phonology an morphology), suggesting relatively little linguistic admixture. Plus, Slavic has core vocabulary related to daily life and agriculture that is directly inherited from PIE.
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>>609978
I remember reading that the language closest to Sanskrit was actually Lithuanian.

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Napoleonic Wars were the most boring type of warfare by far
>uniforms looked like shit
>hurr gonna shoot my musket once a minute and hit the guy next to the guy I was aiming at because it's a piece of shit xD
>standing in lines

it was just so samey and bland
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It had to do with discipline when the accuracy was pretty much the same

The rank and file made up the "fluff" so that when fired in volley under discipline is always better than firing without discipline and at your own pace because of the timing and concentration

When you are disciplined you can defeat a much larger force in the same way, everything relied on drills training and deployment

Natural evolution of weaponry
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>>609383
How can a person be so out of touch with reality
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>uniforms looked like shit

I'll admit to being triggered.

The current romanian narrative is that after the the roman conquest of Dacia (107-275 AD), the local dacians romanized and adopted the latin language, thus the romanian people were born.

The narrative is also about the ethnogenesis, that according to romanian historians, formed exclusively on the north side of the Danube, in Roman Dacia, in order to legitimize Romania's current territories

However, not all of the Dacian kingdom was conquered, but mostly the part that had most gold, the reason why romans wanted to conquer them in the first place

This is the main flaw people who contest the north danubian continuity point out, and suggest the roman ethnogenesis happened on the south side of the Danube instead.


What does /his/ think, is it possibly for a new ethnicity and language to be born in a span of 164 years? On the background of revolts and numerous raids from the nearby unconquered dacian tribes?
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>>609195
something there was always fishy desu
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>>609273

And then there's the common root words of albanian language and romanian language. This suggests that the romanian ethnogenesis happened in the same place as the albanian ethnogenesis.

Words like Cătun/Katund, Vatră/Vatër, Brad/Berdh, Mânz/Mëz, Gât/Fyt, Buză/Buzë are completely unique to the albanian language, and somehow they made their way into romanian vocabulary
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The Daco-Romanian narrative is a psychological aid to explain away the sudden landgrab of Romania in the 20. century, primarily directed at Transylvanian and Moldavian Romanians.

This is because the three groups that today live in Romania had little in common historically. Language is important but not an ultimate measure to bring peoples together, look at all the disparate slavic groups infighting. or the small romance populations of the Balkans that Romanians could hardly feel related to. There was simply no historical foundation to build a common national consciousness on. Then Ceaucescu's dacian masturbation only made matters worse.

In short they had to come up with something to justify a single united Romania. It is still a state heavily ridden with inferiority complexes.

Also to anyone not oblivious to how lands switched ownership can see such historical justificatinoins worth dogshit and is really only directed at its own populace. Without the military or demographic power to back it up its just a cry.

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Why the fuck does the western world have like at least 85% of all contributions and advancements to civilization, in all fields, from philosophy to aerospacial engineer? I'm not talking about useless things like art or architecture, I'm talking about contributions that actually are useful and make us improve as a species.

Please explain this.
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>>608571
Chance and luck. First to the pie, the biggest slice you can take. The more pie you have, the better you can hunt for some more pie's. Hmmmm pie
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>make us improve as a species.
"Improve" is a very subject statement
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>>608571
LOL

you're a funny guy OP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gupta_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata

hahahaaha you're clowning dog but you cool bro, you really be cool

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I heard the argument that religion really was a valuable mechanism because something something Jung. Further it was claimed that people "just don't get" if they reject religion based upon superficial inconsistencies, or rather; taking it's doctrine literally.

Anyhow, I get that religion provided a shared experience that ultimately unified tribes and so on through rituals, but in this day in age it seems like it's only providing a fast food version of catharsis at best, or empty formalism at worst.

Why would the modern, intellectually enlightened individual need religion. If I want catharsis I can find it myself, while the enlightenment provides a common set of values. Not because of those have been dictated by god but because they have been proven to be beneficial individually, on a collective basis.
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>>608419
Well you need to actually read Jung. Jung is saying religion is the symbolic expression of the subconscious. The symbols relate to deeply rooted subconscious expressions, whether the conscious mind literally believes the symbols or says 'it's only a metaphor' the spiritual process is still there.

And no you don't get a choice about whether to have it or not. Become an 'atheist' and the subconscious symbol just takes another form. One moment you think you are totaly in control and being logical the next moment the Goddess, the Trickster, or some other arch-type expresses itself in something you are perceiving and you think "aha this is important".
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>>609067
If everything was influenced by the subconsciousness I would argue we could just substitute religion with movies and nothing of value would be lost. At least it's clear you're dealing with fiction even though it might be an expression of the human experience.

I don't like the idea of defending religion like that because believers, the majority I reckon, takes religion literally. In case of Islam for instance, the results aren't really positive for anymore. Most of the times when people consider religions to be metaphorical it seems because they had been debunked in one way or another, and it's the only way to keep it going.

Joseph Campbell was inspired by Jung too I believe. In 'The Hero with a Thousand Faces' he talked about how some Aboriginal tribes used to cut a symbolic vagina between anus and the male genitals, as some rite of passage. I'm less touched by this than him apparently. Sure it might transform the consciousness of young men, but then humanity managed to carry on without such rituals.
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>>609155
You have an incredibly narrow view of what supposedly benefits humanity.

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What are some common reasons for conversion to Neopaganism aside from >muh heritage and trying to distance oneself from Christianity? Is there any merit to it or is it just a meme religion?
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>>607131
What do you think?
Of course it's just a bunch of bullshit.
Going for any relegion that's not a mainstream in your area is likely to be bullshit, but fuck even if you picked a real one like say... Jainism I'd give you the benefit of the doubt.
Seeing you are neopagan is literally the same as saying you are neonotchristion. It doesn't mean anything.
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It's just a meme.

For example, I come from Ireland and we have no idea how our pre-Christian religion worked or who the Gods were. Our conversion to Christianity was entirely peaceful and the Church didn't do anything bad here until the formation of the modern state. All our fame and significance in the medieval period was thanks to our Christianity.

That doesn't stop overweight townies from dressing in bedsheets, painting their faces blue (which wasn't ever even done here) and destroying ancient standing stones
>100% drue Druid :DDDD my ancesdors sgream my name :DDDDD
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>>607131
Neopaganism is the newest form of autism
Austists think their edgy and cool for worshiping some fucking trees

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Would you consider the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki war crimes?
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>>606858
>you consider
Why in the fuck is anybody on 4chan's "consideration" of humanities value? Take your opinion and fucking shove it.
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Anyone who says it is a warcrime is usually a rabid america hater or a soviet junkie. Japs were willing to fight to the death both the US and the USSR because even if in reality their other terms of surrender weren't really feasible anyway, they were truly suicidal about their status of the Emperor. If anything the nuke strikes spared not only American lives, but Chinese and Russian lives as any Soviet-Japanese war would've been just as devastating. And the communists would have never have kept the emperor in power.
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>>606884
Thanks you're very helpful.

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