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Would African problems be fixed (or atleast diminished) if the borders of newly independent countries were drawn along the ethnic (or in cases of countries like Nigeria ethnoreligious) lines? I know some countries are so ethnically diverse that even this would not work but i am asking in general. How many of the African wars and instability were caused by majority of african countries being multiethnic and at constant internal tension?
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>>664003
Pretty much yeah

However the Powers That Be don't wanna have to wrangle 10,000 puppet dictators instead of 50

And do you REALLY think the puppets in charge right now want to lose territory and resources?
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>>664003
>Libya being completely free of conflicts

When was this chart made?
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>>664003

>Morocco and Western Sahara
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And then people wonder why some Palestine kids perform retarded attacks.

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So are there any academic historical consensuses that you doubt, or thing there is strong evidence against? Historical narratives that historians generally agree upon, but that you think is either ignoring contrary evidence, or just based on flimsy evidence, etc

Elaborate your views more or less.

Pic unrelated...I swear. (there is already an active KANGZ thread, so please anything but that, ancient or modern.)
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gassey mole
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what a terrible thread op should just an hero
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>>663622
so does anyone here actually think oswald did it?

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How come messers had such long hilts when they were one handed weapons?
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they didn't. that's kriegsmesser, not messer.
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>>663418
pic related, this is what one handed messer looks like.
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>>663422

Still pretty long desu.

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What would you do as Germany to win world war 2?

You are hitler. Your goal is eventual global domination. What choices would you make to ensure an axis success?
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>>663217
kill all the nazi fucks and replace them with people who are loyal but not as retarded
not antagonize the entire world
not be a total asshat to the natives on eastern front
make italy behave and japan chill
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>>663217
>What would you do as Germany to win world war 2?
>You are hitler. Your goal is eventual global domination.

As historical.

>What choices would you make to ensure an axis success?

The Axis can't succeed except in utmost defeat.
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Literally impossible.

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Has anyone since Marx come up with a new argument for why socialism would be preferable to capitalism?
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>yfw real capitalism has never been tried
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>>663201
First of all there exists some pseudo-antithesis between Marxism & Capitalism.

The economic factor exercises a hypnosis and a tyranny over modern man.

In free-market economies, as well as in Marxist societies, the myth of production and its corollaries (e.g., standardization, monopolies, cartels, technocracy) are subject to the "hegemony" of the economy, becoming the primary factor on which the material conditions of existence are based. Both systems regard as "backward" or as "underdeveloped" those civilizations that do not amount to "civilizations based on labor and production"—namely, those civilizations that, luckily for themselves, have not yet been caught up in the feverish industrial exploitation of every natural resource, the social and productive enslavement of all human possibilities, and the exaltation of technical and industrial standards; in other words, those civilizations that still enjoy a certain space and a relative freedom. Thus, the true antithesis is not between capitalism and Marxism, but between a system in which the economy rules supreme (no matter in what form) and a system in which the economy is subordinated to extra-economic factors, within a wider and more complete order, such as to bestow a deep meaning upon human life and foster the development of its highest possibilities. This is the premise for a true restorative reaction, beyond "Left" and "Right," beyond capitalism's abuses and Marxist subversion.

Marxism does not differ very much from the "Western" views of prosperity: both Weltanschauungen [worldviews] essentially coincide, as do their practical applications. In both Marxism and free-market economies we find the same materialistic, antipolitical, and social view detaching the social order and people from any higher order and higher goal, positing what is "useful" as the only purpose by turning the "useful" into a criterion of progress, the values proper to every traditional structure are inverted.
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Capitalism is not necessarily preferable to socialism. Marx, whom can be quoted to devise any sort of 'Marx' of your own, once said that capitalism develops the productive capacities needed for socialism (and later communism) to take off.

To answer your question, I've noticed that one of the popular lines of enquiry is "why hasn't socialism replaced capitalism yet?" Antonio Gramsci wrote about hegemonies and consent (I somehow got a First in an essay marked by a Marxist even though I critiqued Gramsci - the academic referenced Gramsci a lot in his work), and David Harvey wrote about the 'Spatial-Temporal Fix' in that 'capitalism' prolongs itself by moving into new spaces (such as the developing world) or invests into long-term projects in order to restore declining profit margins.

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What has San Marino done? It's the oldest "country" in the world and yet it doesn't seem to have done anything ever. Genuinely curious.
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Micro nations needs to die. It's not fucking 1100 anymore.
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>>662782
It's revolt against the Hwan Empire was the first step to the Finno-Korean Hyper War
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They keep the old roman consular government system don't they? that's cool, Andorra is the one that hasn't done anything, at least Luxemburg is important

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Who was the best military leader of 1795-1815, excluding Napoleon of course
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>>662343
Suvorov
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>>662361
Is this a meme choice? He's only remembers for not losing to Napoleon at Waterloo

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Who was the most powerful world power at precisely 1700?

I know it's one of the big 7, but neither Ottomans nor France could solo their arch rivals, HRE and England respectively.

So who?
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>>662179
Probably Spain or England but in a few years it would be France
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>>662179
>1400's
Ottomans
>1500's
France
>1600's
Spain
>1700's
France again
>1800's
Britain
>1900's
America
>2000's
China/India (?)
>2100's
Nigeria, Indonesia, Brazil (?)
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>>662215

I kinda agree. England was enjoying a winning streak in the late 1600's and early 1700's. However, England won because they chose the right alliances, and France fought wars either alone or with a single ally or two.

I'd consider France, without alliances, to be the greatest power; I don't think any nation would win 1 vs 1 at this moment and that will be true for many, many years ahead.

England is rising at a really fast rate, but it is far from superpower status (England is the quickest grower by far in this period however).

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Meanwhile, in the year 1700, Charles II, one of the worst King to ever rule Spain (mentally retarded and infertile), finally dies after a grueling reign of 35 years (most expected him to die in at least 5 years). The Empire of Spain was losing things left and right, and the bureaucracy and military significantly decayed during this period. Spain in the 1700's will enjoy a devastating succession war and inner tensions thanks to the legacy of Charles II.
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Ottoman Empire is not yet the "Sick man of Europe" but it will be in 50 years. For now, it is still a superpower in sheer size and manpower; it still beats Austria and slavic nations (including Russia) in a fairly solid fashion.

___________

Austria up to this point enjoyed a good amount of victories as it chose the right alliances and diplomats. However, it will be shown that by the early 1700's, Austria's military is decaying and waning as it lost wars that Austria fought alone or with only a few allies. It seems like it can't hold itself up. The Ottomans still beat Austria when her allies are not available.

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Can somebody explain this guy to me?
Why is he a meme on here?
Why was he such a failure?
Why is he included in the list of top ten saddest anime deaths?
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>>662004
>Why is he a meme on here?
One person routinely spams this board with posts about him, then posts replies to his own posts to make it seem like Mosley is some sort of hot topic. In addition, this spammer creates numerous pictures of Mosley in an attempt to reinforce the already forced meme.

It's a shame that /pol/-tier memes are being forced on every board.
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>>662004
>Can somebody explain this guy to me?
He bought his way into parliament and was unable to handle his own mediocrity.

>Why is he a meme on here?
He's a british fascist.

>Why was he such a failure?
Because the white armies organised to defeat the general strike represented the real spirit of British fascism.

>Why is he included in the list of top ten saddest anime deaths?
Because a hundred thousand londoners turned out to beat him to death.
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>>662004
>Can somebody explain this guy to me?

A member of British parliament who never quite could fit in, yet still had the respect of his peers. During his career he originally was elected as a Conservative, before a brief flirtation with Liberalism, eventually sitting with the Labour party becoming an early advocate of Keynesian economics. When his party was elected to government in 1929 he was given a titular ministerial position, but with responsibility for unemployment. He eventually fell into conflict with his seniors in the cabinet who rejected his policies of mass public works to decrease unemployment and bring profit over time repeatedly, resigning his position in 1930. He finally left the party on 1931 when his policies were rejected narrowly by the national party convention, taking 6 other members of parliament with him to a form a new party, the 'New Party'. After an opportunity to visit Mussolini in 1931 he believed that the only future was fascism, and set about creating his own model of British fscism, renaming his movement the British Union of Fascists, the moment his career died. Mosley's own policies slowly became neglected in his own movement, with members of the old British fascistii becoming the dominant force by 1934 along with future splitters, and the party which had slowly began to grow and had some press support, lost all credibility with the increasing opposition to fascism abrosd, and antisemitism being brought to the table, but he never left and remained as leader until the end when he was imprisoned in 1940. By the end of WWII he was nothing more than an old establishment voice that the new far right used to announce their policies, after two failed attempts to run for parliament again in the 1960s he left Britain for the final time to live out his years suffering from Parksinsons, dying aged 84 in 1980.

A man who wanted what he saw as the best for his country, who destroyed his career and reputation in the process.

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Was there ever a society or nation in history in which pedophilia was socially acceptable?
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>>660949
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:History_of_pederasty
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not sure but maybe denmark or netherland.
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Tell me about the pre-Indo-European people of Europe.
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Wasn't Otzi stabbed to death?
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>>660839
Check the Basques and the proposed 'Vasconic' languages. My question is whether the Picts are a non-IE group?
they predated the Celts and were eventually Celticized. Perhaps Basques are distant relatives.
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We don't know a hell of a lot for certain--there are a lot of interesting data points but a lot that we can't reach firm conclusions about.
We know that agriculture was not an indigenous development; it spread to Europe through a major wave of migration from Anatolia. Oetzi was a representative member of this farmer population; Sardinians are the closest population today, though not as representative as is sometimes suggested.
We don't really know the origins of the Vasconic or Tyrsenian language families. Vasconic could be indigenous or could be from the Anatolian farmers. Tyrsenian could be from them as well, or could be from a later wave of migration in the Copper Age. Hard to really say as of yet.

What civilization or nation has experienced the most stereotypically apocalyptic societal collapse in history? Please describe accounts/descriptions from primary sources or historians if possible.

For example, here is a British officer and historian Stanley Casson describing the post-WWI collapse of law and order that he witnessed in Istanbul:
>…the Allied troops…found a city that was dead. The Turkish government had just ceased to function. The electrical supply had failed and was intermittent. Tramways did not work and abandoned trams littered the roads. There was no railway service, no street cleaning and a police force which had largely become bandit, living on blackmail from citizens in lieu of pay. Corpses lay at street corners and in side lanes, dead horses were everywhere, with no organization to remove them. Drains did not work and water was unsafe. All this was the result of only about three weeks’ abandonment by the civil authorities of their duties (1937: 217-18)

Excerpt from Joseph Tainter's "The Collapse of Complex Societies."
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>I shudder when I think of the catastrophes of our time. For twenty years and more the blood of Romans has been shed daily between Constantinople and the Julian Alps. Scythia, Thrace, Macedonia, Dardania, Dacia, Thessaly, Achaia, Epirus, Dalmatia, the Pannonias— each and all of these have been sacked and pillaged and plundered by Goths and Sarmatians, Quades and Alans, Huns and Vandals and Marchmen. How many of God's matrons and virgins, virtuous and noble ladies, have been made the sport of these brutes!

>The Roman world is falling...


-Jerome 396 AD
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>>662666
Nice JUST eyes 2bh Satan.
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>>660836
That sounds like a libertarian paradise come true.
But seriously, I think that, if you go for a more long-term kind of apocalyptic end of civilization, I think the late bronze age crisis is the worst: civilizations in the balkans, anatolia and the levant ceased to exist in a period of a hundred years. Among this you have volcanoes, destruction o crops and bands of pirates, mercenaries and raiders roaming the Mediterranean looking for something to loot. The only civilization that barely survived were the egyptians,but only after a brutal war with the sea peoples. it also ended the period of charioteer warfare, because the social class that conformed the charioteers were destroyed.

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What happened to the Phoenicians?
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>>660661
They mixed with Iberians and together molded the modern Spaniard.
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conquered by Persia, conquered by Macedon, and later finished off by Rome.

Though that isn't to say it was a weak society, Carthage is arguably Rome's most powerful challenge in their rise to power, with Carthage trading blow for blow and lasting 100 years against them.

But yeah in the end they lost to simple conquest, as most nations did.
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>>660699
Also they weren't as Militaristic and didn't take the Punic War as seriously as the Romans did, The Fact that The Cathagians reached Italy Made the Romans fanatics while many in Carthage went out to hinder the efforts for their own political Gains

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqzq01i2O3U

Is he right, /his/?
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>PragerU
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>start of the renaissance in the 15th century
>15th century
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>>660378
The guy talks about high middle ages, where West discovered (from arabs and greeks) a lot of the lost works.

He could try to make an argument with Caralus Magnus, but I think just using High-Late Middle ages to refute dark age meme is a bad sport.

Saying this as a PhD fag who doesn't believe in the dark ages meme.

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Whats the most important city in history ?
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>>659646
Culturally speaking:

>Europe
Rome
Athens
Constantinople/Istanbul
>Middle East
Jerusalem.
Mecca
>Southern Asia
????
>East Asia
Chang'an
Kyoto
>Southeast Asia
Angkor Thom
Whatever founded the Sri Vijaya.
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>>659646
Atlantis
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>>659654
>Europe
Paris
Paris
Paris

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