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Why was America military defeated in Vietnam?
Vietnam is so small and poor it's amazing to think rich and industrially strong USA could not win on the ground.

What could USA have done differently to win the war?
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>>613969
Anon the military of the US literally raped the North Vietnam Army and Viet Cong. The US lost because Vietnam fell to communism after the Treaty that was signed and US troops pulled out.

The military won.
The politicians lost.
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>>613969
Because impossible always win
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The US military was tactically superior to anything the NVA/VC could throw at them. However, the government didn't have any long term strategic goals aside from KILL MORE GOOKS. They couldn't invade North Vietnam for fear of escalating the conflict, and they couldn't invade neighboring nations to knock out the Ho Chi Minh Trail - oh wait we did lel.

But thinking that because the US military won tactical engagements means they "won" the general conflict is stupid. Basing your level of victory on body count is a stupid idea. We lost more men than the Germans did in WWII and still won, who gives a fuck? The NVA/VC had far more staying power and that's why they won. They had a single objective that in theory was simple to achieve: fight until the Americans get tired of fighting, no matter the cost.

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How was guerilla warfare countered? What's even the point of having bigger army if a bunch of shit eating civilians using hit and run tactics can rekt it?
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>>608928
Anon what are you talking about civilians using guerilla warfare can't wreck a well trained and proper military in battle.

Guerilla fighters do a war of attrition against proper militaries, and harass them. The key for a proper military to exterminating them for good is not to give a fuck about how they conduct the war, and kill them all.
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The only way a guerrilla army can win is with the aid of a foreign power.
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>>608928
This is 'politically incorrect' but if guerillas are embedded within civilians, the best headway is by killing civilians.

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At the dawn of the post-ancient epoch, between antiquity and modernity, truth was synonymous with Christ's Body, the Old Testament was a shadow of the truth (Collosians 2:17), the Gospels were an icon of the truth. One's attitude toward the truth would be reflected in one's attitude toward Christ and Scripture. Then the Reformation came, the and the old dispute between Pharisees and Sadducees was revived; the Pharisees held that the Scripture was part of Sacred Tradition, and not the entirety of it (for instance, the Resurrection of the Dead was Sacred Tradition not covered by Scripture), and that Scripture itself doesn't just need to be transmitted, but also the precise *meaning* of Scripture. Sadducees, by contrast, said there was not Sacred Tradition, but Scripture alone was what mattered, and its meaning is its face value (for instance, the Sadducees held that "an eye for an eye" meant the offender had to be blinded in one eye, whereas the Pharisees said it meant the offender had to pay the financial equivalent). Christ affirmed the Pharisee position as the one passed down by Moses (Matthew 23:2). This scenario was repeated all over again during the Reformation, but a new element was introduced here: *personal* interpretation, which was strictly prohibited by the Bible (2 Peter 1:20--the word used for "personal" or "private" or "own" is ἰδίας, the genitive case of ἴδιος (idios), source of the word "idiot"). The advent of sola scriptura lead to the roots of scientism on one hand (truth is not expressed philosophically or poetically or artistically, but only through legalisms--a contradiction of 2 Corinthians 3:6), and existentialism nihilism (meaning is strictly personal, not inherent in the truth).
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>>624522
With modernity, truth ceased to be considered synomous with Christ, but it held the legacy of Renaissance humanism: God is a creator of natural world, and it therefore should be studying as the truth as much as the Bible. So instead the natural world itself was seen as the truth, and the Reformation legacy endured, creating eventually both scientism and existentialism nihilism. Now existential nihilism is very different from Christian existentialism--a good example of the latter is Notes from Underground, here meaning is not something that exists solely by one's creation, but is a constant truth, but one which have the free will to not make peace with. Existentialism nihilism, on the other hand, applied the Reformation attitude toward the Bible toward the secular truth: there is no innate meaning, meaning is just a matter of individual conception. But what does this really lead to? Christianity sees God as the ultimate value, from which all others spring, like colors from a prism. But existentialism nihilism sees no objective vale and meaning which others are refracted from, all meanings are just independent and equally truth; so the truth that they all share in is what happens when all colors are mixed together: darkness. There is no meaning, there is purpose, there is no point, there is only chaos (from Greek for "abyss"). Total relativism means each truth is true so far as it partakes of the ultimate truth, which is, paradoxically, nothing.

Orthodox reading list and FAQ for atheists, Jews, Catholics, Protestants and Muslims: http://pastebin.com/bN1ujq2x
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Good thing humanity moved past this whole Pope business.
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>>625104
What does the pope have to do with this?

Why is the American military so infatuated with the Germans of WW2?
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What wasn't already in their manuals, they got it from the Germans'.
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>>623386
Who wouldn't be?
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>>623386

Best selling book to American servicemen overseas is about Nazis escaping to fight in Vietnam,

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So were the badass part of vikings come into play? I mean raiding villages is not exclusive to them and farmers are hardly worthy enemies. Is it about blood feuds? This is what makes them badass? I'm pretty confused. They seem to just be bandits then again highwaymen were romanticized as well because they were ''brave men who fought for what they want'' so I'm guessing that's what it is about? Not a viking hater I just try to understand shilling I encountered.
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>>621827
Not a whole lot of raider/trader cultures can boast this.
>Inb4 assmad proofs Russian
Varangians were a thing. You still have slavic heritage. If you live in north/western Russia, upper Ukraine, or Belarus, you've probably also got Swedish heritage. Get over it.
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>>621827

I actually think that their badassery comes from their desire to die in battle so the valkyrs could take them to Valhalla, this means that they had no fear to die.

Also its important to point out that the Varengian Guard was made of vikings due the conspiracy of Byzantinian noblemen who wanted the throne, so recruiting mercenaries and make an oath (which they took seriously) was even better than having a native guard.
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They're fucking vikings. Vikings are AWESOME.

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ITT: Discuss Islam, its beliefs, merits to society. Debate about it. Question it. Discuss its place in the Abrahamic Trio.

Bonus Game: Convince me to convert to Islam.
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>>620732
Allahu Akbar
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>>620732
Can Islam be described as anti-secular since the methods of administration, polity and jurisprudence are contained within it?
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>>620732

When will you be converting, OP?

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>Only 100% irrefutable branch of philosophy
>Completely negates the point of philosophy existing
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You are too stupid for all of reality to exist in your head.

There, solipsism debunked.
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>>608952
>You are plugged into a computer simulation
Your move.
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>>608980
You are too stupid to be plugged into a simulation.

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I'm posting this in both /sci/ and /his/ for a wide range of opinions.
I'm a student majoring in both philosophy and one scientific field, and in every introductory science course I've taken (mostly due to university requirements), the professor has gone out of his way to insult philosophy in the opening lecture.
Statements such as "we aren't merely doing philosophy" or "we don't just sit around and make baseless statements like philosophers do" have been common from all of the physics, chemistry, astronomy, and biology professors I've taken classes under. Those kinds of statements were most often spouted by a psychology professor I had, during a class on conducting research.
Furthermore, science textbooks which refer to the history of science often refer to metaphysics and philosophy in the same way they refer to mythology, folklore, and religion. They act as if it's just people spouting random opinions with nothing to support their claims.
At the same time, these professors and authors make free use of logic (formal, informal, symbolic, etc) and terms such as "empiricism" and "determinism" to describe scientific methods and ideas as if they were not products of philosophers.

Why is philosophy in general seen as the subject of ridicule for those in scientific fields?
Why is it so common to see philosophy improperly represented by those in scientific fields, and pop culture in general?
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Coming straight off the positivist train the hottest shit in the land is Scientism. This is a meme, it will die.

At the same time however. Scientists get a lot of good press and you have people who are full on "science communicators" like le black science man, Dawkins, and Sagan. There's a few philosophy youtube channels and existentialcomics I guess and that's about it when it comes to communicating what philosophy is about to laymen.

This might just be a case of American education but I legitimately didn't know what philosophy was until I got out of high school. I knew the word, I knew philosophers thought about stuff, I knew Plato and Aristotle were philosophers. But the current state of philosophy and how it's done was never taught to me.
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>>624223
It is perceived as useless, baseless, and unmarketable. But perhaps worst of all, it is seen as a competitor to science or religion.

Pay them no regard anon. Pearls before swine.
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>>624223
During the 20th century we had the logical positivist movement, which basically amounted to, "Only things explained by math or science are meaningful". The entire rest of philosophy seemed superfluous and superstitious. It became very popular but later went out of favor. It was discarded by its own creators and deemed false. Of course, the rest of the public and the scientific community are going to be slower to catch up with philosophy. Although logical positivism has done serious damage to intellectual discourse and there's a chance it will never recover. Scientism is the anti-intellectualism of our era.

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>islam was spread by sword
When will this meme die?
Or is it truth that Islam was spread by sword?
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>>621909
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>>621909
Okay, so the Ummayads were pretty hellbent on conquering, but like the text says, they wanted Islam to be Arab only. The Abbassids began proselytizing in conquered territories. The Ottomans are pretty much where we get this idea of Islam by the sword from, due to their harsh policies in Eastern Europe. The Ottomans left us with most of the West's cultural impressions of Islam for most of modern history, including the conversion by the sword.
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>>622070
Are you stupid?
Ottomans were the only tolerant pluralistic Islamic empire.
Go fuck off back to your propaganda containment boards.

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I've heard that several conflicts in Africa and the Middle East are because when the borders for these states were drawn up they were haphazard and didn't take into account who lived there, their cultures, history etc.

With that in mind, what would this continent and a 5th look like if there was more of an effort to draw the borders to respect cultural identies.

>inb4 /pol/

Well, since I'm dealing with cultures and history, I think that fits humanities. I mean, Iraq might be less shit if it was actually a country called Chaldea to the north and Kurdistan to the east.

>inb4 tumblr KULTRAL APPOPEEASHUN!
Fuck tumblr.
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honestly the me is just fine except for kurdistan

for africa they never really unified at all, theres thousands and thousands of tribes and groups that hate eachother. You could try all day and never get something that brings peace
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I remember a thread where some anons attempted it and ended up with roughly 300 irrelevant shitholes.
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>>620514
>and Kurdistan to the east.
A nomadic group from Persia that committed genocide against Assyrians and Armenians doesn't deserve a fucking state.

Do you call it the Byzantine Empire, the Eastern Roman Empire or the Roman Empire?
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I call them the Eastern Romans. They're not quite the 'Roman Empire' with the fall of Rome itself, but they're certainly Roman enough to have that word in their name.

'Byzantine' is fucking Enlightenment bullshit.
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>>616706
>'Byzantine' is fucking Enlightenment bullshit
I agree. The more I read up on the history of late antiquity, the more I grew to despise the term. I tend to switch off between Roman or Eastern Roman depending on the context. I.e., I'll say that Roman empire fell in 1453, but if I were talking about the reign of Constantine VII, I'll say Eastern Roman Empire.
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>>616697
Byzantines to those that don't give a shit about history in the odd event it comes up to hide my autism powerlevels.

Although I went to Turkey last summer and couldn't help myself by just calling them Romans. My dad eventually came around to doing the same.

>tfw exploring ruins with pops
>Hey anon come check out this Roman structure

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Daily Roman thread.
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How could a society that was so shitty at the micro-level produce such enduring art and architecture?
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>>615925
Shitty at the micro-level?

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Why are whites the only race currently associated with enslaving people? Slavery has existed since recorded history and every race has partaken in it.

Africans sold each other to the Portuguese who then sold the slaves to Americans and Europeans. Why is this seen as a "white only" historical issue? Hell, hundreds of thousands of white men even died to free slaves in the U.S. yet we still get shit for it.
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>>617351
>Why are whites the only race currently associated with enslaving people

They aren't though?
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>>617364
Have you seen what's being taught in universities?

Most college aged kids now believe that whites are the only evil slavers and need to pay.
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>>617351
Propaganda

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>Sea peoples
>Attacked cities across the Bronze age world around 1000 BCE
>Nobody knows where they came from
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inb4 retards saying "THEY WERE CLEARLY [insert ethnic group]" when it's obvious there were different invading waves consisting of various peoples
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>leads the Portuguese faction in the battle that resulted in the worst Portuguese defeat until WW1
>No one knows what happened to him
>Because of his disappearence, the country went tits up.
>People wanted him to come back so much they'd hang around the pier to see if any ship came by with the King.
>this led to the expression "to see ships" for someone who sits there waiting for something that isn't happening.

Where is he, bros?
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>>599629
They were clearly Atlanteans

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What was Thomas Aquinas' true view of Islam? I am considering reading Summa contra Gentiles for it.

Also is Islam truly a religion of peace why or why not?
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Their prophet was a warlord.

Enough said.
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He writes from the position that he knows the truth. If only he understood Islam what for it rendered, not those who lived different lives than he did.
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>>620375

"Islam" means "submission". If you submit, you live. That's a kind of "peace" I guess.

>>620380

Also a cold-blooded killer, rapist, thief and liar. Why anyone converts to Pisslam in this day and age is beyond me, granted kids born into it have no choice but actual adults who come along and say "Hmm, this murderous child rapist thief sounds like just the kind of spiritual leader I've been looking for!"! confuse me no end.

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