i think not. the indian affairs ppl under estimated how many enemy indians custer would have to fight.
custer is a great american hero. he deserves more respect. can't help but think anyone who think otherwise isn't very smart.
what do you guys think? am i right? am i wrong?
>>1281965
He was a fool and deserved to lose.
no 1 refuting. glad to see this board has real americans.
why did he deserve to lose?
Custer had some of the most impressive accolades of his time. a true american hero.
What is the most moral religion?
>>1281911
Dildoniism.
>>1281911
>"Which of you is the most moral?"
>I am the most moral according to the laws of Mohammed, said Mohammed
>I am the most moral according to the laws of Christ, said Christ
>I am the most moral according to the laws of Moses, said Moses
>>1281911
Protestant Christianity
Can parents be blamed for their childrens' crimes, even if these are full-grown adults?
>>1281640
If the nature of the crime is such that it can be traced back to the upbringing of the child then yes, to some extent the parents are arguably responsible. Neglect and indoctrination are good examples.
>>1282660
And presumably you could try to trace the parents' faults back to their parents/upbringing and so on.
blamed yes. punished for it, no
Was he really as bloodthirsty as history says he was? it's undisputed that he impaled people, but recently i've read that the other stuff, like roasting children alive, cannibalism, cutting women's tits off was german saxon and turkish propaganda, and russian and romanian sources portray him as a just, fair leader.
He was probably a pretty swell leader to live under, just wouldn't want to be a t*rk
>that is not my name my name is Dracula Untold to you until now
FUCKING REALLY?
Is this the only portrait of him?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefanie_Rabatsch
>Although madly in love with her to the point of suicide, Hitler never once spoke with her,
>Hitler never spoke to Stefanie, always saying he would do so "tomorrow".[2]
>He loathed those who flirted with her, especially the military officers, whom he called "conceited blockheads"
>Hitler disliked dancing and reportedly replied, "Stefanie only dances because she is forced to by society on which she unfortunately depends on. Once Stefanie is my wife, she won't have the slightest desire to dance!"[4]
>When she responded with a smile to his inquiring glance, he was happy and his mood became unlike anything I had ever observed in him. But when Stefanie, as happened just as often, coldly ignored his gaze, he was crushed and ready to destroy himself and the whole world."[3]
So do you think Hitler would browse /r9k/ if he was born 100 years later?
Fun fact: Hitler believed she was Jewish (her maiden name was Izak).
Have you ever been cucked so hard that you genocided an entire people?
>>1281294
Sounds like he had Aspergers or something. Hitler in his youth was a pretty sad character overall. To make a living he drew crappy postcards for tourists and mediocre paintings that he sold to Jewish merchants because "They are the only ones willing to take a risk".
I remember reading about some guy seeing a young man in tattered clothes, holding a couple of post cards in his hands, in a cafe. After several hours he had still not sold any. So the guy (a Jew) felt sorry for him and bought some. Hitler immediately went and bought some sweets for it.
Prime /r9k/ material.
>>1281294
>haha what a loozer xD
>goes on to dominate almost the entirety of Europe
Checkmate, liberals
Is it still the ship of Theseus once all of its pieces are replaced?
If you replace piece by piece, then yes.
If you take the whole thing apart and built it again, then no.
>>1280986
Theseus and Greek Heroes- if they even existed- most likely sailed in Pre-Classical Greek Ships.
Remember: everything in Greek Myth supposedly happened in ancient times for the Classical Greeks
>>1280986
It stopped being Theseus' ship as soon as Theseus died
ok, let's settle this once and for all, which country performed more embarrassing in ww2, France or Italy?
>>1280979
Italy of course. Hands down.
They fucking turned tail and went AMERICA IS OF LIBERATORS! when the first American troops set foot in Italian Soil.
>>1280984
French did it twice.
>>1281050
In one case it was only the Govrnment and in the other it was someone who wanted to free them from German occupation.
On the topic of religion
when and how did the Islamic Golden Age end?
A lot of texts I've read made me infer that Al-Ghazali's anti-rationalism combined with the Mongol sacking of Baghdad were the coup the grâce to Islamic intellectualism.
But what preceded this death? And is my conclusion valid?
>>1280930
As far as I know the idea that Al-Ghazali caused the end of the era was first made by an amateur physics professor writing a book on the history of philosophy, but I haven't found any actual argument to support that. It seems unlikely.
What I believe happened was that the madrasa became increasingly standardized, patronage of which steadily replaced patronage of individual thinkers. The later madrasa had no place for advanced non-religious sciences, so these were pushed into the private homes of scholars and enjoyed little protection from angry mobs of Sufi mystics which had begun to appear around the 13th century. Economic decline from environmental changes, European expansion, and nomad raids by Mongols, Bedouin, and Berbers also whittled away at the Arab mercantile middle class that made up the bulk of early Islamic scholars.
>>1280930
Wrongo.
It ended with the decline of the Abbasids in the 900's AD and the coming of the Turkics. The Abbasids tottered into a collection of Islamic Princedoms who were far more busy fighting each other than doing knowledge n shiet nigga.
>>1281227
>angry mobs of Sufi mystics
But aren't sufis supposed to be bro tier according to 4chan?
Jews had 4000 years to give legit arguments of why their god is real.
Christians had 2000 years to give legit arguments of why their god is real.
Muslims had 1400 years to give legit arguments of why their god is real.
Magic is the answer.
This thread shall doubtlessly be riveting.
>>1280737
In fact, it should.
>>1280718
Actually their arguments were and are even more stupid than that.
> Not stabbing the beast in the heart
> Not taking the centers of the Muslim world, Damascus, Baghdad, Alexandria, Cairo.
> Spooked into running after "the Holy Land"
We might have the the advantage of hindsight, but surely there were at least some people that knew Egypt was a power base for many Muslim dynasties?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_invasions_of_Egypt
Egypt was one of the first territories conquered by the Arabs.
How would've a successful invasion of Egypt changed history? Or the capture of Baghdad.
When you think about it, Jerusalem was a horrible red herring.
>>1280385
Thats why Saint Louis marched to Egypt, cause he was told that taking Jersusalem was like "trying to hold a lion from the tail".
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_Crusade
They only went on Crusade to save their soul because of all the killing they were doing in Europe.
>>1280385
Was already attempted as mentioned by the other anon
>How would've a successful invasion of Egypt changed history?
Same way the sack of baghdad did.
What was the legal basis for sentencing Pétain to death? How can signing an armistice be high treason?
>>1280362
Treason
>>1280362
Legally, he was condemned for endowing himself with the full powers that the French Assembly had voted on him, which is an unconstitutional act (I'm foreign to its true specifics, but that was the legal conjecture by which the french government absolved itself of the crimes of Vichy, by asserting that the rise of Vichy was unconstitutional) and he should've known better than to seize this power.
Also, on a symbolic side, him offering an armistice was perceived as traitorous because it doomed the french army to defeat: for example, more half of the french captures by germans befell the army AFTER he first announced by radio that he intended to sign an armistice. The french morale was broken beyond repair by his intention to sign an armistice.
Anyways, that's how I recall it is.
>>1280362
The Gaullist narrative, mostly.
>We totally won the war ! Vichy was not France !
why did hitler spend resources and soldiers on jews , couldn't he have left them alone until he could capture some states? isnt that the rational thing to do?
Because he needed them as a scapegoat to be punished to further advance his goals.
> couldn't he have left them alone until he could capture some states
uh, that's what happened
>>1280253
Audio recordings of hitler speaking with his staff show that they greatly underestimated the USSR, as far as they new everything would go fine.
Why don't western Europeans feel any sense of kinship with eastern Europeans? I see the west being really chummy with each other, but they seem to bully the east. And Europe's history is full of the west fucking over the east, especially with that Constantinople thing.
>that Constantinople thing
care to elaborate?
>>1279906
East has had to much turk and mongol couk to be considered european
>>1279912
It's difficult to imagine Constantinople falling if they didn't get sacked by their fellow Christians going on a Crusade. That incident weakened Byzantium making them easy prey for Ottomans.
Also, most of Europe didn't really help much as Constantinople was getting sieged by Ottomans.
Obviously the West had its reasons, but its still notable that a lot of the things that the West does in relation to the East tends to fuck the East over, intentional or not.
Christans of /his/, orthodox , catholic and protestants. How do you maintain your faith given all the contradictions and historical evidence that goes against the bible? How do you keep believing that Jesus was the son of god when, historically, he was most likely just an apoclitpic prophet and follower of John the Babtist who preached of end times in which Jews would reclaim their land from the Romans? How do you still believe you have free will despite god knowing your future? How does it make sense that Jesus died for things he already knew we were going to do?
tl;dr how do you keep your faith in light of all the evidence that it's no real.
>>1279818
a single bump.
>don't respond to retard threads
>>1279818
Well, I'm no longer a Christian due to completely unrelated circumstances, but let me try to address what I can from my upbringing and my current faith.
>How do you maintain your faith given all the contradictions and historical evidence that goes against the bible?
Faith is something stronger than evidence. I have faith in my gods because of what I've experienced and because of how I feel. I imagine the same goes for Christians. Also, if you take their doctrine of a 'fallen earth' as fact, then all evidence is suspect. After all, Satan is the God of this world (2nd Corinthians 4:4), and he's often called the prince of lies. Dunno if there's a scripture reference for that, would be interested to know if any Christfags wanna bring it up.
> How do you keep believing that Jesus was the son of god when, historically, he was most likely just an apoclitpic prophet and follower of John the Babtist who preached of end times in which Jews would reclaim their land from the Romans?
'He was most likely...' this statement is a claim, and the sort which easily allows bias to creep in. Personally, I think he was just a follower of John the Baptist who got lucky, but you do have to wonder why he became so successful after death, when that region was CRAWLING with 'messiahs' at the time. Why were none of the others so successful?
>How do you still believe you have free will despite god knowing your future?
Christianity grappled with this quite a bit, and a shitton of heresies cropped up over it. You oughta look into them, they're super fascinating.
>How does it make sense that Jesus died for things he already knew we were going to do?
A sacrifice that can give itself willingly for things it understands is the purest sacrifice of all.
lets get going I want to see what you guys have
>>1279813
Historical as in drawn around the time period or just cool art relating to history?
>>1279825
Cool art relating to history
>>1279830
I'll post a few more then and come back later. If anybody has some cool WW2 shit willing to post please do.