Does beauty hold intrinsic value?
Is aesthetics something worthwhile for society and/or for single individuals to spend time, energy and money on? Should society spend lets of money on beautiful buildings and decorative sculptures and the like? Should we as individuals pursue beauty in our lives, meaning things like interior design or fashion hold high value?
>"Beauty is truth, truth beauty," – that is all
>Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
Who was right?
>>1288488
yes
>>1288488
I was just thinking the other day that we often use beauty with an undertone of inherent goodness, as if it were synonymous to good, and an antonym to bad.
But it means neither of these things without context, right?
Why is Loki accepted by the Æsir gods and even as Odin's adopted child when he's not even Æsir and causes so much trouble? (killing Baldr just as a start.)
>>1288272
because hes intelligent, nihilistic with a wicked sense of humor
>>1288272
Same reason Freya and Freyr were?
>>1288289
Freya and Freyr are Vanir gods and remained Vanir gods. Loki was born Jotun and is now treated as Æsir even though he's the source of a million different problems in Norse mythology.
I keep getting told about how originally republicans were the liberals and democrats were te conservatives and I don't know how to research this for myself. It seems like histrionics used by liberals to excuse democrats for creating the KKK and all the racism of the Southern states (like Jim Crowe etc). Is there any truth to this? I'm not well versed in us history and just want to know if I'm being bullshitted.
>>1288168
During the civil rights era, the parties switched.
>>1288173
In what way though? Did the republicans believe in abortion rights and gun control? Were democrats against big government and spending? i don't know in what "conservative" or liberal even looked like back then.
>>1288234
Look up "dixiecrat" and "southern strategy".
This isn't to say it was a clear turnaround, but some major stuff did got flipped. Your parties are more similar than you Americans care to admit, anyway.
>mfw Catholicucks will tell you their Church is somehow "special" and "chosen by God" because it has existed for some 1700 years
The Eleuisinian Mysteries lasted for two millennia and its rituals, tenets, and beliefs remained unchanged for all that time. Does this mean they were chosen by Persephone and Demeter?
>>1287989
>he doesn't understand the importance of having an institution represent the faith of the people
>he doesn't see the value of tradition
How do you live with yourself?
>>1287989
>DUDE, JUST GET WITH THE TIMES JEEZ
>>1288010
>he doesn't see the value of tradition
What's the value of tradition when it's wrong? For example - why bother to maintain the illusion of religion being relevant (attending mass, etc.) when the Christian religion is of a very man-made origin and lacking any supernatural/divine inspiration or element?
The same can be said of Islam and Judaism.
How old were you when you realized Satan is the good guy?
Me? About 18
He's the bad guy because he tried to rebel for what he believed to be freedom and self-autonomy.
He was a fool because real freedom and self-autonomy is only achieved through complete submission to the will of God.
>>1287925
I think I was 15 or 16 when I first read Job and learned that Satan always worked for God, thus making him the good guy.
I know Sun worship has a prominent, long and storied history, but what about Moon worship?
Has it always occupied a subordinate position?
>>1287917
I think Islam considers moon worship to be superior.
>>1287945
How?
The Arab calendar is based on the phases, but all forms of paganism and idolatry are the ultimate sin
>>1287951
>idolatry
sure, that's why they bow to a rock five times a day.
>inb4 dirty protestants
What are some good documentaries about art and history of art?
Roger Scrutons beauty documentary is pretty good
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc forgot the link
Power of art.
Can be found on Youtube
As can A History of Art in Three Colors. I recommend the blue episode especially.
Hey-a 4chan, It's me, your good buddy Kramer. I haven't been here in years, and I haven't been on this board yet. I think I will get into this board if you can answer me this one little /his/torical curiosity I have: What is the inherently most based medieval, classical or ancient civilization? I simply don't know.
-Cosmo
>>1287532
ah yes, the ol' comedy chevrons
Keep walking Cosmo, this place is full of ceMtJc suʙHumᴀɴ sHJt
Carthage nyugga
What are the essential readings on stoic philosophy?
>>1287374
Letters from a Stoic - Seneca
Enchiridion - Epictetus
Meditations - Marky Marc
>>1287378
Thanks. I'm currently reading Meditations and enjoying it greatly.
While doing some research on stoicism on Wikipedia I happened upon an article on stoic physics which, as a physics student, I found very enthralling. Does anyone know if there are any compiled readings that expound on stoic physics or is it all pretty much scattered through the works of various philosophers?
The article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoic_physics
>Fatalism
Into the trash.
Is there any real chance of Stirner's philosophies making some kind of resurgence culturally?
>>1287362
They, and thoughts like them, will always pervade society whenever a person has doubts if something is real; or contrived.
No.
Literally nobody outside of 4chan talks about Stirner at all. He is by definition a meme.
>>1287371
Do you know what meme status is, anon?
Are Rosicrucians heretics? They believe in Christ and all of their philosophy is built around Christianity and they say they are Christians. How far down does the rabbit hole go?
Bump for interest. Obviously fundamentalist evangelicals say that everything that is not in the bible is satanic, but let's hear. Any other closet Christian esotericists on /his/?
>>1287275
Who are the Rosicrucians?
The Rosicrucians are a community of mystics who study and practice the metaphysical laws governing the universe.
Our studies include:
The Mysteries of Birth and Death
The Illusory Nature of Time and Space
Awakening of the Psychic Consciousness
Human Consciousness and Cosmic Consciousness
Mystical Power of Vowel Sounds and Mantras
The Creative Power of Visualization
Influence of Thoughts on Health
Development of the Intuition
Psychology and Mysticism
Metaphysical Healing
Sacred Architecture
Spiritual Alchemy
I don't see Jesus in there anywhere.
>>1287912
>Our studies
So you claim to be a Rosicrucian. Do you belong to any particular organization such as AMORC?
>The Gothic tribes converted to Christianity sometime between 376 and 390 AD.
>After their sack of Rome, the Visigoths moved on to occupy Spain and southern France. The Spanish Goths formally embraced Catholicism at the Third Council of Toledo in 589.
>>1287237
No. The Germanic peoples were predominantly Arian, while the Roman orthodoxy was Catholic.
So they regarded each other as heretics.
To gain what exactly?
>>1287284
>To gain what exactly?
Signaling virtue.
/his/, tell me about the Black Panthers. I'm having a really hard time finding unbiased sources on them. Were they good for communities and unfairly hassled by the government, or were they crazy ideologues? Also, please no /pol/ or /leftypol/ tier answers.
>>1286879
Bit of both desu
armed propaganda group
At least their violence had a purpose.
Isnt everyone a philosopher at this point?
anything can be a philosopher lad
Nah, most people really just don't want to think about anything. Basic 90-110IQ mongs that is. You can also call them normies
>>1286872
Yep. Philosopher is what an autist calls themselves when they have no other remarkable talents.
There's no point in actual philosophers even publishing anymore since everybody is too self-absorbed for a decent philosophical work to gain traction across a broad readership. This is why Zizek is a famous intellectual today whereas in the 2000s you had Goedel and Quine and so on.
Despite this being one of the most important events to ever happen in human history, why is this blatant misinformation being spread. Everyone knows that the Jedi were Finnish yet this picture labelling them as Hwan is spread everywhere. Also these casualty counts are far too low and a lot of stuff is omitted. Utterly shameful.
Hyperwar never happened, it's a hoax driven by the Finnish Jews to makes us think they wuz kangs.
Only whites have ever been kangz.
>>1287471
>>1287725
DELETE THIS!