Can we talk a bit about how long lasting creations influence people?
I mean like say the Eiffel tower or the Pyramids or works of literature.
How do they influence the people who created them? Are they important in securing the future of a people? the continuation of a people? If so in what way? If not why not?
It gives evidence for the existence of the civilization that built it, but it serves the interest of the one in charge of it.
If I conquer your shit the tourists' money goes to me, for example.
They are immediately recognizable because they are conspicuous, if you live near one you are frequently asked about it by tourists, one way or the other you'll be interested in its history, and perhaps history in general, as the wonder stops being all that wondrous after the second time.
The Eiffel tower would fall down within 100 years of maintenance being stopped.
The Pyramids are very influential and inspiring though, like to Napoleon, who knew that when Alexander saw them, they were 2000 years old even then.
But ultimately they all come back to Ozymandias, that however powerful you get or whatever empire you forge, it will end up lying half broken in the dust in a sleepy land for the next conqueror to come upon.
>>1469820
>>1469831
But how does it effect the society that had built them?
We can say for example that lavish projects are pointless as they waste resources and solve no problems.
We can say that funding art or the humanities is inefficient but it feels to me that being part of a society that has created lasting cultural works allows me to be proud of being a part of it.
A big cultural heritage allows me to invest myself in it.
For example, Hollywood cinema is a major disturbance for the culture of smaller societies as they cannot efford making these monumentally expensive films.
This diverts attention of the people from their own culture and from improving it, onto another culture which they start to admire and around which their lives start to revolve.
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Would Scandinavia look like sub-Saharan Africa if not for them being given civilization by continental Europeans?
No since its in a diffrent climate.
>>1469605
Would it look like a cold, grassy, wet, sub-Saharan Africa then?
>>1469593
No, the vikings had already invented the wheel.
I've been trying to understand the middle ages to make my Dungeons and Dragons campaign more interesting, but the problem is that I keep comparing the world of the middle ages to my current modern life. So /his/ what was it actually like for the various peoples of the 14th-15th centuries?
>>1469585
The problem is in your game choice.
Like now but more medieval.
What a dumb thread.
>>1469603
They obviously did not have the right to free speech, or could buy an AK-47 at the store to protect that right
What is the final solution to the collectivist problem?
Enlightened individualism.
>>1469584
A union of egoists, my property.
Neoliberalism.
>wake up
>anne frank still dead
what are your /his/ feels?
>>1469551
THE ONLY GIRL I'VE EVER LOVED, WAS BORN WITH ROSES IN HER EYES
>>1469558
it shouldn't have happened....
>wake up
>The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was partitioned
>Poland didn't exist independently for another 125 years or so
>mfw
What is his endgame?
>>1469524
winning the war
>>1469950
With no survivors
What is his endgame?
Not a fan of Rushdie's latest disguise
I personally think, busting:
- Saudi Barbaria
- Journos
- Intellectual yet idiot
- Etc.
>a guy with no fucking classical training whatsoever except for one battle arrives one day at a dojo and starts destroying everyone inside, who have been training every fucking day for years
How is this even possible ?
>>1469452
MC plot armor and anime logic
>>1469452
Kek. Not a single day.
>son of a warhound
>kills his first man.at 13
>abandoned.like an animal.in the mountain
>survived sekihagara
>literally the founder of bushido
>confirmed high IQ through abstractions of the book of the five rings.
Yagyu family were noblemen and snobs besides
>training in the dojo with your tomboy childhood friend one afterschool when this guy walk in and slaps her in the ass
What do?
Could someone direct me to a source for Marcus Porcius Cato's "Origines"?
It's oddly hard to find. Why?
By the way, is there any edition in English of Gnaeus Gellius' "Annales"?
Neither are extant
Fragments exist of Origines through quotations from later authors
Gellius' work is only known through what other authors wrote about it
>>1469342
>Neither are extant
Wow shocking!
Thanks, anyway.
Tell me about the swiss, /his/
What do they hide?
Why are they so neutral and wealthy?
Swiss wealth has always confounded me, given their poverty at the turn of the 20th century. From what i observed:
> neutrality actually makes economic sense, being straddled between 3 big countries
> secretive banking and big pharma sector
> relatively homogenous population
But ultimately i think location coupled with neutrality was the most significant factor.
Thats my observation from my exchange there, maybe someone with greater firsthand knowledge can correct me
When they lost one battle to the milanese? in the 15th century they stopped their expansion and became neutral for all eternity
>>1469250
They were basically the european Caymans for most of last century. Businesses moved there for the explicit purpose of hiding shit and getting fiscal privileges.
>Glencore
>MSC
>Transocean
Also all the money swirling around the country boosted local economy greatly, allowing for a miriad of small medim business to proliferate, some of which actually became big ass multinational corps.
How did Freemasonry start?
>>1469237
Read "Secret Societies and Subversive Movements" by Nesta H. Webster. There was the Grand Lodge of Cairo back in antiquity/the middle ages, but the modern european and british lodges were founded maybe in the 15-16th centuries?
>>1469248
Interesting. How did a stonemasons' guild turn into this secret society?
>>1469237
Read Tobias Churton's "Freemasonry: The Reality" and Revd. Neville Barker-Cryer's "York Mysteries Revealed"
They both cover the emergence of speculative Freemasonry from the guild system. Churton just details it, but Neville provides evidence going from Christian guild plays requested by churches through to minutes of the earliest non-operative members.
>>1469248
>There was the Grand Lodge of Cairo back in antiquity/the middle ages
Except that theory is laughable and unverified.
The obbligatory books to know the Austrian School?
Thank you anon
Human Action
Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market
The Mises institute has a lot of good information
https://mises.org/
What do you think about this thought?
Prices and Production by F.A Hayek. Microeconomic Foundations of Macroeconomics by Steven Horwitz, Time and Money, by Roger Garrison. those are modern books in Austrian Business Cycle theory.
Justify your religious beliefs to me.
Try and convert me. I won't argue with you, I just want to hear what you have to say.
There is no difference between spirit and matter
There is no difference between theology and mythology
There is no difference between scripture and literature
There is no difference between religious tradition and philosophical current
There is no difference between divine and natural
There is no difference between sacred and profane
There is no difference between god and universe
I won't say "there is no difference between mind and body" because it's too easy for me to be called a reductionist, when my take on it is emergentism, though it is still physicalist.
Wolololooooo
You can thank me later
>>1469214
What is your actual belief?
How do contemporary religious people differentiate between dead religions and their own system of belief?
Why was an Athenian citizen wrong for believing in Zeus and Athena, but you are correct for believing in Yahweh and Jesus Christ?
Isn't it just as likely that in 2300 years nobody will believe in Christianity or Islam?
> religious people
> Rational
>>How do contemporary religious people differentiate between dead religions and their own system of belief?
They can't.
>>Why was an Athenian citizen wrong for believing in Zeus and Athena, but you are correct for believing in Yahweh and Jesus Christ?
Neither person was wrong exactly, just mistaken about the nature of reality.
>>Isn't it just as likely that in 2300 years nobody will believe in Christianity or Islam?
That is a possibility, but nobody can say with any certainty what religious beliefs will be popular 300 years from now.
>>1469181
Yeah, but that's the problem you see, many of them are extremely rational when it comes to everything other than their religion, and would never be fooled by a confidence trickster trying to lure money out of them for example, but they go to Church and have no problem being called a "flock" there.