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How much longer would the Byzantine Empire have lasted if it had succeeded in repelling the Ottomans in 1453?
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>>1512766
prolly like 20 years. when you're constant(ine)ly on the defensive and under seige you just don't last. and when you're on the defensive you don't have the luxury of killing-off the offending army. you can repel them, but they come back. the empire just didn't have the manpower and support to counter-invade the muzzies.

at least the beautiful architecture was respected. these weren't barbarians, they wanted stability as much as the byzantines, they just wanted it on their terms and they achieved it.
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>>1512766
Who knows. Til nationhood for all we know. Alot can happen in 300 years.
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>>1512766
They were already on their way out, having a small fraction of their Empire. Somebody else would've taken Constantinople if the Ottomans didn't. Like >>1512774 said, probably twenty years.

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is /his/ into military history? i was thinking about studying the aviation stuff from wwI in depth and was wondering if anyone had good resources.

also, who was the topgun ace of wwI? is it agreed it was the red baron or is that debated?
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>>1512737
Red baron was the highest ranking ace.
He had over 100 confirmed kills but not once did he ever truly feel it was something to be proud of.
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>>1512737
>is /his/ into military history
As far as I've found /his/ is barely into history.
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>>1513509
with exception of the ones into military history or tools used to hurt people until they die

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or is it outdated now?
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It's outdated for sure but it's still worth reading as part of the study of historiography and as a work of literature in its own right. Gibbon was a great writer, even if he let himself be consumed by his personal biases.

Go into it with the knowledge that Gibbon was working with limited information and was extremely biased and you'll be fine.
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>>1512720 I have heard people say its the greatest work of history ever?
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>>1512724
Weeeeeeeeell I definitely wouldn't say that. It's a product of its time. It's immensely important in that it really kickstarted our modern study of history and our methods of historiography but it's not perfect, or even all that accurate.

I'm not sure there is any single greatest work of history. It all depends on when and where you're studying. Obviously something like The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire is a bit grander than, say, Sanitation and Sewage in Medieval West Africa but there's no reason the latter couldn't be a better work of historiographical study than the former

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The Right choice or the Good Choice?
The Right choice is bad.
The Good choice is wrong.
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>>1512656
I choose to not choose at all.
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depends on what you mean by good or right. by what standard are you to label something as good or bad, throw us a hypothetical!
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>>1512656
Right. I've always had little regard for myself and more for the intangible.

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What did it truly mean to be samurai?
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prs respond
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>>1512644
Fuck chivalry. Bushido is true honour.
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>>1512644
>>1512674
Stick to your words/beliefs
Respect people
Have courage
Honor people who devote to a higher calling (priests/parents/warriors/etc)
Have a heart and help others
Be honest to yourself and others
Do what you're asked to do, don't flip-flop

DUDE MUH MYSTICAL CODES

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How does one debate a creationist? And none of this "you can't, it's impossible" stuff.
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>>1512533
More specifically a Young-earther.
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>>1512533
You can't, it's impossible.
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>>1512533
Impossible, you can't

Crusader armor is by far the greatest of historical vestaments.
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>>1512362
If it was so good how did Saladin and his buds kill so many of them
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>>1512362
'no'
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>>1512362
>crusader armour is a thing

kys

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How could the US have handled Afghanistan better in the Cold War? Because it seems like their only options were fund conservatives/Islamists or let Russia gain more territory. After the failure that was Vietnam they probably wouldn't be able to pull off a land invasion either.
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>let USSR gain more territory
>spending millions on fighting an ever growing insurgency quickens the downfall of the USSR
Too bad Americans can't into logic.
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>>1512272
>I will get Ahmed this time, just you watch!
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>>1512276
I mean with hindsight being 20/20 yea.

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>Western civilization started in France in the 9th century
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>>1512233
Charlemagne and his German successors saw themselves as a continuation of the Roman emperors of antiquity
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>>1512246
Charlemagne had no German successor
The empire died with him, the shitshow the Germans created afterward (HRE) isnt linked to him
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>>1512233
It's true though.

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So our society for the longest time has had the tendency to assume the male voice or audience. With this in mind, why is it most architectural feats like great ships, cities, or countries were always feminized: refereed to with "she." Was it simply because these things were objects likened to how women were preceived or something else?
Pic not really related.
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>>1512171
Because they are possessions, just like women

Its also not universal, in some languages things will be gendered male or female instead of primarily female
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>>1512171
country --> land --> earth. Earth is usually imagined as feminime, see Gaia and other earth godesses.
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>>1512171
God you're such a beta faggot.

How did the Caliphate conquer this much land so quickly?

Was God on their side?
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>>1512164
Good generals. Weakened rivals. Religious fervor.
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>>1512164
The rivalry between the Byzantines and Persians was seen as idiotic to many locals, and thus the early Muslim conquests were welcomed. This rivalry was also a big distraction, allowing early Muslims to quickly expand.

A similar thing happened to Northwest Africa, where a visigothic king hired muslims as mercenaries but he did not know that was haram. For the rest, it was sheer military power, political marriages, and trade.
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>at it's peak

The new and improved iteration of /int/craft is coming out tomorrow (Friday, August 5th) at 3 PM EST.
Based in 1880 AD, it will use plugins such as Towny, Ships, Cannons, and Crackshot, and have many meme recipes, old and new.

IP: intcraft.lunas.host
(NOTE: Pirated copies are not supported. Sorry.)

Grace will last until a week after launch (12th of August). PvP will be disabled for three days after launch, and warfare, cannons, colonies, etc. will all be prohibited until grace ends. If you join or make a big faction early, you can even engage in the Council of Paris, which will be overseen by the admins on the last day of grace, and will lay out every historical claim a country may have!

Info cont. in following posts...
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https://discord.gg/DuKe5

Join our discord to learn more about our empire and if there are open positions
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>>1512005
so can I get a map? where do we spawn?
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>>1512081
Sinai penninsula

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I'm not religious nor spiritual. Is there any point in practicing asceticism then?

Should asceticism have a place in society 2016?
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I don't really think so. It just seems like to me that you would be limiting yourself to the joys of life this would be especially true for someone who isn't religious.
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>>1511933
Asceticism is the only way to acquire self-improvement in this society.

After all, our society teaches us that alcohol, drugs, bad food, laziness, etc. is actually GOOD for us. Meanwhile fitness, strength training, stretching, self-discipline, self-education, eating healthy, etc. are made out to be things that only freaks do. Even worse, this view has seeped into fitness, whereby you're a fucking weirdo if you do anything other than bodybuilding (ex: people give me weird looks when I mention the clean and jerk).

Of course, there are people like >>1511961 who say "b-but muh fun! muh enjoy le moment :DD" . This is hedonism, and it's pathetic. Sure, you may enjoy moment. But will you enjoy STD's, liver and heart problems, weak joints and muscles, and being forced to depend on others from a relatively early age?

Hedonism kills, while asceticism builds and enlightens.
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Yes. Epicurus was not a spiritual lad, but he was very ascetic.

You don't want to be like this guy here >>1511961

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I know this may sound hypocrite considering the topic i choose to discuss but please try not to be too much /pol/

I often hear muslim and lefty people argue about how ISIS members and such are not "real muslims", even though, as righties fairly remind us, the quran speaks clearly about it. My question is: is there a catch with the interpretation of the quran? Are there different translations of the book that extremist and not read based on what they believe? Like christians and jehovah witnesses with the bible?
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>>1511928
A LOT of the bad things that are attributed to muslims come from the Hadiths rather than the Quran itself, which are more like rumors about things the muhammad said rather than something he actually wrote.

at the same time, there ARE violent verses in the quran, which more moderate muslims often choose to ignore or selectively apply to their lives, like most modernized religions.

but i also think that you're interpreting the position from a prior violence. defending muslims is not a "lefty" thing and hating muslims is not a "righty" thing, desu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran_and_violence
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>>1511948
Yeah but those verses represent Allah's clear will, while in the bible you can save your ass with the "muh interpretation" crap. Are moderate muslims the "not real muslims" here?
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>>1511966
The Quran only prescribes violence in self-defense unless the opposition is willing to make peace, my straw-manning friend.

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If WW1 and WW2 never happened would the 20th century still be a time of exceptionally fast technological progress? Cars were already becoming quite common by 1914, and I think cars could revolutionize society even if there were no world wars
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>>1511908
Yes, cars would still get better and better throughout the century and car culture would still develop, but advanced electronics might take a lot longer to develop with no world wars, especially WW2. I'd say the beginning of home computers is definitely later than the 1970s, maybe the 1990s or 2000s, the Internet wouldnt exist in 2016 and cars would still lack all the advanced electronics they have today. Also It'd be interesting to see how the German and Russian empires hold up
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Yes, capitalism provides the incentive for the development of consumer goods only matched by the development of weapons by states fighting for their survival.
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>>1511908

Necessity is the mother of invention. War can create necessity in areas where little/none would otherwise exist. They would still be technological progress, though different, and across broader fields.

Even if you argue that war produces technology advancement at an increased rate, you should consider the potential technological progress lost by the killing of ~100,000,000 people between the two wars, not to mention their potential descendants.

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