Slott Spider-Epic Pt. 1

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I miss this Avengers lineup. Also I'm leaving the office now and heading home. If you were to bump this thread it would be greatly appreciated.

>Makes one reply
>Leaves

Slott is so shitty the storytime can't even get beyond two images

>>90200312
>op immediately regrets his thread

>>90200246
I don't miss Wolverine in the Avengers like at all.

Spidey joining them feels a bit more earned, but I feel like Bendis went the wrong way about it, he should have joined the Avengers proper, not the "New" (underground) Avengers. Also, OMD ruined all the momentum he had going anyway.

Is Ramos a worse artist than Liefeld?

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>>90200312
>>90200356
You guys obviously don't come by these threads often. I always gotta walk home which takes a bit.

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>>90200642
Debatable. Ramos fluctuates a lot.

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Why does every fucking comic treat the Mayor like the goddamn president of the United States? Makes no sense.

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Slott should be banned from writing Felicia.

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Gotta admit, I wouldn't have thought of that.

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Anyone else find Nora insufferable?

>>90201335
>>90201335
Has she even shown up in the recent volume?

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Didn't Phil also run a support group for sidekicks? Or maybe I'm imagining someone else.

>>90200192
For Venom, I think just the Slott origin and 27.1 (When Flash interacts with Peter before leaving New York) are necessary.

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Pete...you're kind of an asshole.

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Flash, you're an asshole. Peter literally cared for you while you were recovering from fucking brain damage.

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Fuck you, Slott.

>>90200983

Man, seeing a nice straightforward Avengers team like that makes me feel really nostolgic all of the sudden. Both for Bendis before he lost his touch as a writer and for that era of Marvel in general.

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This is a shame. I loved Gargan Venom. Brian Reed's Sinister Spider-Man was gold.

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I liked this little pop quiz.

>>90201604
>I loved Gargan Venom
...I think you might be the only one.

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Such a promising end to a first issue. Hobgoblin is one of my favorite Spidey Villains. The Roger Stern stuff was epic.

>>90201359
Not that I'm aware of.
After she got fired because of her connection with Phil I don't she's show up.

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I love everything about this page.

>>90201365

No, you're correct:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loners_(comics)

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The fact that Norman continued work on his Goblin gear even while being in charge of HAMMER and having his own personalized Iron Patriot Armor. You can take the man out of the goblin but you can't take the goblin out of the man.

>>90201059
>Octopuses
>This woman is a scientist
Bravo, Slott

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Phil? What are you doing here?

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Well this didn't turn out the way I wanted it to. Kind of a bitch death if you ask me.

>>90201109
>that attempted panel break trick
how embarrassing

>>90201335
Not as nearly as insufferable as Michelle

>>90201139
>I will get my own killer robot
He had it all planned. Bravo Slott

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Alright this lab is pretty bitchin

>>90201164
Spider and Cat on the same Avengers team sounds pretty good to me tho

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I had no idea the sonic scream had this amount of kick behind it.

>>90201794
>>90201821

Best goblin is here!

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I really appreciate that these early issues of Big Time were over the 22 page standard. Makes these feel like more complete issues which is also a plus when reading comics.

>>90201737

He had his moments. I really enjoyed his role on the Thunderbolts as - as Osborn called him "America's Scary Cannibal Cop." He was really the embodiment of the creeping horror of the Dark Reign era.

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Hah!

>>90201737
I think it's because I remember when Gargan Venom first appeared in Millar's Marvel Knight's Spider-Man. Eventually he was recruited into Osborn's team of cronies and that's when he really starts to shine. His portrayal in Amazing Spider-Man: American Son was hysterical. Marjorie Liu managed to make him a fun side character in her Dark Wolverine Series. Bendis even managed to have fun with him in his Dark Avengers run, but I maintain that Brian Reed's 4 issue Sinister Spider-Man story was enough to leave me begging for more.

>>90202686
But Daniel sucked.

>>90202715
Or Slott could, you know, make better use of the standard 22 pages like others do?

>>90202177

This is when I got wise to the Slott train of thought. He lies about everything. Do no not trust his interviews with websites. Do not believe a single word he says. We will get what we want. They just take time. an entire year it took. But he gave us a true return for Roddy.

>>90202770

Yes, but Roderick rules. Unless you read Spider-Woman recently when he got a tragic case of HOPELESS in the end and began to act like Phil. more than his actual self.

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>>90202803
True that.
And even when it seemingly seems like Norman strangled Kingsley to death with his bare hands, Roddy still had an escape plan because HE'S THAT FUCKING GOOD!

>>90202803
Slott just has a weird propensity for lying. Like when he and Whacker swore up and down that Superior was permanent. I mean, just let the stories speak for themselves, man. No need to trick the audience.

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Smooth

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Did Slott get the idea for Montana from Weisman's Spectacular Spider-Man, or was it the other way around? Or was he made by someone else entirely? Either way Montana is a great character.

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Normally I hate Felicia because of how's she been written recently but god damn is she stunning

>>90200246
Does Hawkeye even have any villains besides the Hawkguy meme?

>>90203145
>Montana first appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man #10 (March 1964), and was created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko.

Ramos was a mistake.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! Phil did two things wrong.
1st. He didn't check to see if Nora was in a relationship.
2nd. He should have kept it for himself and brought it to the bugle, increasing his notoriety and social value. Giving it to her is doing her a favor which in turn increases the amount of affection/intimacy you have with someone. Phil, you're making yourself miserably by acting like a goddamn retard.
I came out of a bad breakup a little over a year ago and I see a lot of shitty behaviors present in Phil that were present in me.

>>90201013
Is this pre or post OMD?

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Slott should just admit that he was incapable of actually writing the conversation and tried to make a joke out of it.

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>>90203256
Post OMD

>>90202177

I was one of the ten or twelve people who bought every issue of Phil's solo series back in the day. While it sucks to see his descent into villainy, I can't not be happy to see him getting some spotlight time for the first time in nearly 20 years here.

>>90202468
Just according to keikaku

>>90203315

Hey I'm another!

>>90203628
>That tiny head
It's like the size of a lemon.

>>90201335
I want Nora to belittle me like that desu

>>90202452


Aaawwww.

>>90201604
He is scum and in my eyes, the most pathetic host but that is what fascinated me with the dark avengers.

I was a teenager breaking into comics seriously for the first time. I really didn't know better.

I was also into DC's Cry for Justice around this point.

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How's everybody liking the Slott thread so far? Yay? Nay? Anyone stoked for a particular part in this run?
>I'm fucking pumped for Superior as well as covering Spider-Verse. I think it's more enjoyable the second time around.


Also if anyone's interested here are the links to Bendis' Powers from start to finish.
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ALso for the individual that wanted the Powers TV show, the episodes are uploading as I type. It's just taking a while cause each episode is 300-400 megabytes.

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I feel the dialog on this page is beyond forced.

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Little bit of a rant, but here's my thoughts on SLott. When it comes to Slott's Spider-Man epic, I'm not going to say the series is particularly well written. You will never ever ever ever ever get those words to come out of my mouth (I have a couple images saved to remind me how bad Slott is). But even in spite of my distaste for the man, I still admit that I love his stories and find him a highly entertaining writer. With Slott, each major story arc from the beginning of his series to the current successively builds on the preceding one that came before. In a sens, he's continuously upped the stakes the longer he's stayed on and every major event fully takes advantage of the surrounding context.

You couldn't have had Spider-Island without Big Time. You couldn't have Superior without Ends of the Earth and Dying Wish. You couldn't have Spider-Verse without the Superior Time Travel Shenanigans THAT WERE SHOWN IN THE MAIN SERIES WAY AHEAD OF TIME!!!! And you couldn't have Clone Conspiracy without Ock getting his PHD and founding his company, with Peter later manages the company in such a way it prosper becoming a competitor for Stark!!! He knows how to lay the groundwork for his stories in ways few writers ever fully grasp. He jams as much content as feasible in his comic pages to ensure you never leave bitter the story didn't progress.

Lastly, when Slott is sufficiently motivated and has a good editor overlooking him he's capable of writing some truly unique characters. Look at his Great Lakes Avengers or his Mighty Avengers and you'll see a full ensemble of characters with distinct voices and personalities.

>>90204183
Did you also like Identity Crisis? Don't lie

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>>90204337
I've never read identity crisis from start to finish. Is it worth a read?

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That Spider-Logo on Smyth's back is beyond ridiculous.

>>90204226
I've read up to at least the point where Peter becomes bulletproof and promises no more deaths.

I'm keen to push on and read Superior and maybe read Scarlet Spider a long side these storytimes when the time comes.

>>90204337
I did but I didn't have any attachment to Ralph and Sue Dibny.

>>90203209

I didn't know that, but he certainly FELT like a Ditko villain to me. That would have been my guess.

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Fuck off MJ. You're the one that dumped him.

>>90203183
>Does Hawkeye even have any villains besides the Hawkguy meme?
Bendis

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>>90204473

>>90204406
No, it's retarded as fuck, especially if you like the characters it shits on like Ralph and Sue, or Firestorm.

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Hah

>>90201794
That's not a bad look for him

>>90203183

thats_the_joke.jpg

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This was pretty cool.

>>90203358
hnnnnnnnnng

>>90201904
Ha, that reference to Reed's Ms Marvel.

>>90202097
He looks so happy

>>90204406
It's a short enough read and isn't bad in itself. It's a kick in the teeth if you're attached to any of the characters that suffer what could seem like needless tragedy.

It's not Ultimatum levels of shit.

>>90203288
>Slott should just admit that he was incapable of actually writing the conversation and tried to make a joke out of it.

Don't be such a cynic. It's way more entertaining this way than if he'd put actual technobabble in there. He was doing a joke, and I think it's pretty cute.

>>90201335

She was like the worst part of BND.

And that's saying something.

>>90205085
>It's not Ultimatum levels of shit.
It's even worse than Ultimatum because at least Ultimatum ruined a small self-contained universe separate from the larger Marvel U. Identity Crisis utterly ruined the DCU and heralded an era of grimdark bullshit and character assassination everywhere that wouldn't stop until fucking Convergence.

>>90202287
Jesus Christ almighty that ass

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You suck Doreen

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>I calculate an 88.7% probability he was adopted.
Hah

>>90205272
squirrelgirl has a real name?
lol

>>90200246
This art is terrible

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I miss this Carol. She and Pete would make a cute couple.

>>90205378
>I miss this Carol. She and Pete would make a cute couple.
Agreed

>>90203544

>He could be anywhere now

I mean, technically mustn't he be at the end of the tunnel he JUST dug? It seems like it would be at least worth investigating.

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How is Phil not getting laid the fuck out right now? He is 100 percent transparent in his desires to steal Randy's girlfriend (which makes no sense cause Nora's terrible).

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Were Jessica's boobs always this bodacious?

>>90205624
Is this before or after Frank Cho literally gave her a boob job?

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Oh crapppppp

>>90205646
whoops, wrong Jessica

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>>90205646
>Frank Cho literally gave her a boob job?
What?

>>90205646
That's Jessica Jones, not Jessica Drew.

>>90205592
Did they hear her talking through the wall, or did she keep talking after they burst through it?

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>>90205765
Both options sound stupid.

>>90203315
The worst part of that was how it wasn't really Slott forcing his hand at making Phil a villain so much as other stuff (like Cebulski's) were already putting him on that path, but at least having the notoriety of killing a big shot villain to become the new one would make the tradeoff worth it IMO.

Of course Kingsley's creator pedigree assures he will never get killed but just run the fuck away at the first sign of trouble and he'll forever be pointless in my eyes.

Best Hobgoblin was in AXIS Hobgoblin. Sabretooth and Havok be damned, his was the one that should have been permanent.

>>90200246
I absolutely cannot do ramos. His Style is too stretchy for me

>>90200192
DAS SPIEL IST SCHEIßE!! DIESES SPIEL FICKT DICH HÄRTER ALS DAS LEBEN!!!

>>90206015
>saved by the REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
oh if only we knew

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This is an interesting development.

>>90203288
<Unsolicited opinions on MJ's intellect>

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>My spider-sense...it's...
>...it's gone!
Shit just got real.

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MARLA NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm sorry. I am so sorry.

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Time to switch gears to the start of something great

>>90206282
>>90206293
>>90206308
I half wonder if JJJ will just commit suicide before this run will end.

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This costume is so fucking sexy!
>Check it out--I'm Spider-Man!
Flash, you would have been a fantastic Spider-Man, but someone's gotta redeem the name Venom and that person is you. In fact, I think it'd be cool of Flash was a member of The Dark Avengers as either team leader or one of the senior members if that series ever comes back again.

Dark Avengers Dream Team. I'm aiming for 6 members.
>Flash Thompson (Spider-Man)
>John Walker (Captain America - if there can be two Captain Americas, why not 3?)
>Karla Sofen (Ms. Marvel)
>Ghost (Iron Man -- this is one of my more outlandish ideas).
>Satana (Scarlet Witch)
>Eric Josten (Giant Man)

>>90201335
Her, Michelle, and Carlie just came off really annoying during BND and part of Slott's run. I think it's probably notable that, after OMD, the only non-MJ/non-Felicia/non-Betty love interest that fans wanted for Peter by a significant number was Carol Danvers.

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Coooool

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It's official, I'm in love. Also Flash is a smooth criminal.

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And that's going to be it for this thread. I hope you all have enjoyed the first part of the Slott Spider-Epic! I think I'm going to try and incorporate all of the Venom Issues, Scarlet Spider issues, Avenging Spider-Man issues, and Superior Team Ups issues as progress further into the series. Making a posting order now so I should be ready by tomorrow.

>>90206282
>>90206293
>>90206308
Wow, did that shitlord Slott really just fridge a strong female character? Triggered desu

Slott's run seems to rely a lot on going through all of Spider-Man's lore. After Spider-Verse, I thought he would wind down, but then he did Clone Conspiracy. He seems to love the stories of "Everyone is __________", like how Spider-Island is everyone is Spider-Man, Spider-Verse involves every Spider-Man, and Clone Conspiracy is bringing back all dead characters. With rumors of a Venomverse, I really wonder how much longer he can milk this franchise. I wouldn't be shocked if there was a second Spider-Verse where every version of his rogues gallery from all dimensions team up to stop Spider-Man.

>>90206468
He did do this a few times. Killed Marla, killed Ashley Kafka, "killed" Silver Sable. And then going beyong the killing part, he had Ock punch out Felicia Hardy which made her "evil".

And Remender got shit on for less.

>>90206468
Wait til you see Silver Sable

>>90206463
How long do you wager this is going to last?

>>90206546
A while lol. Weeks at the very least

>>90206530
>And Remender got shit on for less.
To be fair, that issue where he kills the Scarlet Witch and Rogue kind of made everyone lose their minds.

>>90206598
I think he's actually talking about when Sam slept with Jet Zola. People called him a sick fuck and asked for Marvel to fire him because apparently Jet was "underage" (she wasn't, she was a fully grown adult, I have no idea where they got the idea that she was underage)

>>90206592
Get on THIS level, f4m
http://desuarchive.org/co/search/subject/great%20x-men%20storytime/

I still miss this storytime, it was getting comfy

>>90206530
That's regretful. Dr. Kafka was great in TAS and Silver Sable was baller in Ultimate Universe (manages to go up against Spider-Man mano a mano and hold her own fairly well).

>>90206686

don't forget "drown yourself in hobo piss"

Thank you

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Once Dan Slott finally leaves Amazing Spider-Man, which writer would you like to see take over?


WRITER

Dream CHoices
>Brian Reed
>Mark Millar
>Joe Kelly

Realistic Choices
>Nick Spencer
>Christopher Yost
>JOshua WIlliamson
>Christopher Gage

ARTIST

Dream Choices
>Declan Shalvey
>Oliver Coipel

Realistic Choices
>Ryan Stegman
>Shawn Crystal
>Paco Medina

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I MEAN LOOK AT IT! Coipel was capable of elevating even Slott's polarizing writing. Imagine how kickass it would be when paired with a truly consistent writer.