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Are there any good post apocalyptic novels that involve rebuilding society?
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NCR is a nation of whores and thieves. Pick a better example.
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>>9641793
canticle for leibowitz, lucifers hammer
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>>9641801
I never understood why anyone would think rebuilding the same old liberal shithole would be a good thing. Yes man is the only option

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Totally /lit/ unrelated but would anyone know how to fix this (Google doesn't help for this kind of damage)

Also Ivan Karamazov thread
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>>9641790
Throw it away
Go to used bookstore
Buy new copy for 3$
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>>9641806
Well I'm the kind of asshole that go to these stores everytime I can, and it's not there.

And who would pay 20$ for a book at goddamn amazon
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superglue and tape.

actually good poetry- where do i start? and where do i go?

and yes, i've already read homer,virgil,most of the greeks/romans
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>>9641766
Just get a good anthology. Norton's, or Harold Bloom's, or even some "100 Best Poems" crap can be useful. If you find a poem you like, get a complete collection from the poet who composed it. Continue with similar poets, or influences of that poet.

Also, do not skimp out of learning about technical matters of poetry such as meter and form. Stephen Frye's The Ode Less Traveled is a fun popular guide. I also found useful Paul Fussell's Poetic Meter & Poetic Form, and Shira Wolosky's The Art of Poetry.
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>>9641766
Poetry is for faggots. Are you a faggot, anon?
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Read Harmonium. Wallace Stevens is fucking mindblowing.

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Happy Bloomsday /lit/!
What's your favourite episode?
What does the bar of soap represent?
Who is the man in the mackintosh?
Which version of the text is best?
What does Ulysses mean to you?
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>>9641731
My sweet little whorish Nora I did as you told me, you dirty little girl, and pulled myself off twice when I read your letter. I am delighted to see that you do like being fucked arseways. Yes, now I can remember that night when I fucked you for so long backwards. It was the dirtiest fucking I ever gave you, darling. My prick was stuck in you for hours, fucking in and out under your upturned rump. I felt your fat sweaty buttocks under my belly and saw your flushed face and mad eyes. At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora’s fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.

You say when I go back you will suck me off and you want me to lick your cunt, you little depraved blackguard. I hope you will surprise me some time when I am asleep dressed, steal over to me with a whore’s glow in your slumberous eyes, gently undo button after button in the fly of my trousers and gently take out your lover’s fat mickey, lap it up in your moist mouth and suck away at it till it gets fatter and stiffer and comes off in your mouth. Sometimes too I shall surprise you asleep, lift up your skirts and open your drawers gently, then lie down gently by you and begin to lick lazily round your bush. You will begin to stir uneasily then I will lick the lips of my darling’s cunt. You will begin to groan and grunt and sigh and fart with lust in your sleep. Then I will lick up faster and faster like a ravenous dog until your cunt is a mass of slime and your body wriggling wildly.

Goodnight, my little farting Nora, my dirty little fuckbird! There is one lovely word, darling, you have underlined to make me pull myself off better. Write me more about that and yourself, sweetly, dirtier, dirtier.
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>>9641731
I really do wish to go spend a Bloomsday to Ireland.

>What's your favourite episode?
Either Circe or Penelope
What does the bar of soap represent?
Taking rich people's fat and making it into soap to sell back to rich people.
Which version of the text is best?
I only read mine, the Wordsworth edition, so i wouldn't know.
What does Ulysses mean to you?
Other artists, specially Fernando Pessoa, had helped already appreciate the small things, the very small things in life. I think Ulysses is the book that fully solidified that for me, essentially making an epic into a normal day, and making me invested for some solid 600 pages.
More than that, i think it's a lot more accessible than people give it credit for. Although it's filled with allusions that can be hard to get, it's very humorous and heart warming, and that characters are all very human, realistic and relatable (which is understandable, since they're just normal people). I think Joyce understood slice-of-life like no other man, and Ulysses is the greatest slice of life book of all time. Finnegans Wake is still my favorite of is tho.
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>>9641731
>What's your favourite episode?

Either Oxen of the Sun or Scylla and Charybdis.

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Everyone besides the girl is a total asshole to him. He literally did nothing wrong. Yet Dostoevsky needed to add a tab at the beginning to persuade the reader that people like the narrator actually exist.
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>what is an unreliable narrator
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>>9641726
>lol he just made up what they said and their actions
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>>9641726
>>9641743
And besides that, he sees everything for exactly what it is. If anything, NFtU's narrator is the only sensible Dostoevsky character.

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>could have been a fun heartwarming story about average people dealing with life's problems
>had to bog it down with obscure references and overcomplicated prose
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Ya I hate when people express who they are in interesting ways. It's best at a fifth grade reading level. The book could have been a lot shorter too.
Stevie is sad and walking around. Leo's wife is having sex with someone else. Leo reconciles; Leo's wife reconciles.
The end.
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Man, references are a fucking spook, do you get it? Just read the fucking book and don't worry if you don't get the fucking references
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>>9641686
>Leo reconciles; Leo's wife reconciles.
I think it's deeper than that.

Funnily enough, some critics of the day and some now even saw the book as ultimately tragic due to the ending, where Molly and Bloom are only reconciled symbolically through Molly's own private memory of accepting his marriage proposal. Ironically, of course, this same memory is only in Molly's head, and Bloom is not privileged to be touched by Molly's being touched by the memory. And of course, her life and thoughts will go on solipsistically after that, even if only to fall asleep, and she's still fucking Blazes and still going to. Dedalus, too, doesn't seem like he'll get out of his poverty and suffering any time soon, and he miserably refuses the love and warmth Bloom and Molly could potentially offer him by having him over in their home for a while, or at least overnight.

In a lot of ways, it's a ridiculously sad novel, despite that Joyce tried to be so comical and life-affirming.

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is russian real difficult to learn or what
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>>9641583
in my experience as a native english speaker, harder than french but much much much easier than mandarin
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I'ts a real vich.
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>>9641583
Yes

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Redpill me on Shelley.
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Read his poems. What can we say that he didn't himself?
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He's aight, but his Ozymandias was done better by japs a thousand years before.
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The Cenci and Promethius Unbound. Read those, post your enthusiasm and I'll lend my support.

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>If you had to boil it down to 4
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>Laozi
lol
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>>9641377
>Laozi
>Not Zhuangzi
Wow lad. That's genuinely embarassing.
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Joycey boy, Pynch, Dave and Rupi.

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Hey

do you guys think its actually possible to be successful as a poet in 2017? I'm way better at poetry than anything else but I feel that I need to incorporate that talent into music or short fiction in order to succeed. It feels like all poetry now is simply political and i will never succeed in that field because i'm a straight white male.
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>>9641359
define "successful"
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>>9641359

>i will never succeed in that field because i'm a straight white male.

In the gulag you will have plenty of opportunities to write poetry on toilet paper in between cultural sensitivity training sessions.
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>actually

>way better

>in order

>simply

That's a lot of superfluous language for a poet. Maybe you should be a lawyer or a novelist.

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Is studying propositional logic useful for reading/analyzing/critiquing philosophy? Should I study first-order logic instead?
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>>9641251
>being this autistic

You should learn a trade, marry a white woman, breed white children, and honor your father land.
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>>9641261
It would be autistic to do those things out of context. You should marry and reproduce if love commands you. You should learn a trade, sure, but writing is a trade too. Honoring your fatherland is very much a problem for me being an American and I think the last great American was Thoreau. I don't see this as my fatherland at all. I've done all the other things btw but probably not for some abstract notion of race like you suggest. My skin color may be the same as other white people but we aren't like genetic kin.
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>propositional logic studies ways of joining and/or modifying entire propositions
>unlike first-order calculus, propositional logic does not use quantifiers or relations

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>you still haven't tackled the greatest poet of the XX century
what's your excuse, sweetie? haven't read the odyssey? aww, poor thing
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>>9641178
I'm redpilled. I fucking love Ezra Pound because he was a fascist. He would have browsed /pol/ today. Proud to associate with such a white hero.

Libcucks can keep their feminists and black poets. We have the white king
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>>9641187
retard
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>>9641191
Can't handle the redpill, sweetheart? Maybe /r/books is more your speed

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I just post this here:

>"No one in The Lord of the Rings can say so much as 'hand me that spoon' without risking a response like, 'Do you mean Fobulir, the Spoon of Dessert? Forged in Glomiel during the reign of Hothemor, this spoon has ferried rich custards to the beards of kings and dwarves, and all sing of its unparalleled elegance of curvature. Use it with care, my friend; gladly do I give it.' I don’t know what things cost in Middle Earth, but I bet everyone’s paying too much."

>Decades after first being told he should love The Lord of the Rings, this longsuffering geek has had enough. In "How Tolkien Sucks," humorist and "This American Life" contributor David Ellis Dickerson does a hilarious takedown of Tolkien's masterpiece, proving, in meticulous detail and with withering commentary, that "Tolkien’s utter awfulness on damn near every level is a matter of mathematical provability." The fake-Biblical dialogue; the surprisingly thin characters; the horrible pacing; the illogic of there even being a One Ring—all get put under a microscope and checked against Tolkien's reputation for genius. You may never read the Lord of the Rings trilogy in quite the same way again. But that's okay. As Dickerson says, "I have nothing against guilty pleasures....All I’m trying to do is make Tolkienists realize that they should feel guiltier than they do. You're welcome."
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>>9641140
No one cares about your book let queers who like fantasy read their shit fantasy and don't shill your shit here
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>>9641140
haha lmao lmao

more like

David Dick - her, - son!

lmao lmao

damn

got eem
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>>9641149
Yah, and let's discuss better thing such as Wallace, romanticism and cuckoldry.

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I learned recently about a video-game term that teenagers these days throw around: "overpowered," or "OP" for short. If a character type in a competitive video game is inordinately more powerful than the others, then it is "overpowered"; the game as a result is deemed "unbalanced," and fans will complain on forums that the developers have delivered to them a swift "slap in the face." It's an interesting metaphor. Life, of course, is no game, and it's a truism that it isn't fair. But every once in a while we get a striking reminder of how unevenly Mother Nature distributes her gifts. Take the literary world for instance. By any measure, David Foster Wallace, the author of the acclaimed novel Infinite Jest, was overpowered. If he were a class in a role-playing game, then you wouldn't hear the end of the complaining. When it came to the writing of fiction, Wallace blew his competitors—historical and contemporary both—out of the water. To borrow another term from video gaming, it's fair to say that he "owned" them. When Infinite Jest hit book stores in February 1996, the title's two words were in the mouth of every serious reader in America; every living writer, however, was faced with a different pair of words: "Game Over."
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>>9641138
>out of the water
no. he showed them that this is water.
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>>9641138
>Wallace blew his competitors
Yeah no kidding that's how you get ahead
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MegtR8uKDeU

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Is The Animorphs series /lit/?
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What the fuck is that
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>tfw used to imagine myself turning into a girl and rubbing my tits
>tfw wondering about blue centaur dick
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>>9641104
Was there ever a gender-bending moment in Animorphs? I don't remember

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