ITT: We rank the most /lit/ non-european countries.
Russia
USA
That's about it
>>9636843
> USA
> mfw
>>9636787
1. Argentina
2. China
3. Japan
4. Algeria
5. Venezuela
6. Namibia
7. India
8. Russia (eastern)
9. Mongolia
10. Kazakhstan
Does this need to be updated at all, or are we still comfortable that this is the best "Beginner's Guide to Fiction Writing" list we can make?
>>9636583
Maybe we could add Lajos Egri's Dramatic Writing
Make the chart consist entirely of American English dictionaries
>>9636583
Was just talking about this book yesterday
Hello /lit/ I'm looking for a book called Leo's Toy Store. Is by some guy called Warren Peace. A friend told me is the best book in history, but I can't find it.
>>9636574
Currently reading this book called I'm her Son, by S. Hayes. Official rec. Pick it up in lieu? In chapter six he (the 'son') is sprawled out on the bearskin by the parlor room fire flipping through an unabridged copy of his favorite chapter book, which just so happens to be Leo's. FYI.
>>9636574
I'm going through Arthur Chopin's How-Toer right now. Is by a dude called Will Andidea. Its da best philosophizzle book in historeeeee!
>>9637348
Andidea? Is that Candy Andidea's bro? Under the pen name C. Andidea she wrote that weird dietary manuel that recommends eating TONS in short periods, vigorous exercise, and chewing tobacco (tres DFW) as an appetite suppressant. It's called: Gorge, Burn Hard, Chaw. Far more practical than Eat, Pray, Love [they] tell me..
>80% of book written
>set 50-75 years into future
>everything's going well
>finally come to grips with fact that attire hasn't been mentioned because too afraid to speculate about what people wear in the future and whenever I do it always seems stupid so continue on never talking about what people are wearing
Please help. Is this something that can go unmentioned and left to the reader's imagination? Can I fake it by hinting here and there that the fashion is more or less similar to today? Any sci-fi aficionados seen sci-fi writers deal with this issue in creative ways?
Fuck you, I'm not going to help you finish your book. Try some LSD and be creative.
I wouldn't leave it out. More in Utopia, Huxley in BNW, Huxley in Island and Orwell in 1984, to name just a few mainstream authors, described the clothing but then Bradbury didn't describe much of the clothing except for the fireman and a white dress. So I think it is up to you but I would definitely recommend describing how the clothing is similar to ours.
>>9636507
I would definitely mention the fashion, but not by itself. For example, if you wrote a character dressing themselves, or seeing another character, you could comment on their clothing.
Have the clothing be a symbol for what you think the future will be like. Do you think it's gonna be a libertarian paradise? Do you think it's gonna be a communist paradise? Do you think today's social order will be maintained? Whatever you choose, the clothing should show this.
One thing to note: in more conservative periods (50s, 80s, 2000s) people wore baggier clothing to appear bigger, while in more "liberal" periods, people will wear tighter clothing. Use this as you wish.
Can you explain to a retard like me what the fuck is he talking about in "Circuitries"? It sounds like a fucking nonsense to me
read anti-oedipus first
he's writing love-poems to the process of capital that is already inscribed on his mind
land is only a mystery until you read capitalism and schizophrenia and then it all becomes clear
>>9636503
I've already read Anti-Oedipus, you cunt.
And I understood it better than that load of gibberish about cybernetics.
>It is ceasing to be a matter of how we think about technics, if only because technics is increasingly thinking about itself.
It's not even that complicated. Your unconscious desires become wired into capital, and that capital begins to become self-operative in the form of reproductive technology. We don't think about technology because first we think about money, and money runs on your libidinal desires.
The thing wakes up. We're wired into it. It's wired into us.
Is reading for the plot for plebs?
what would you read for instead? the prose? the character development?
>>9636453
Unironically the prose
No. Asking these types of questions shows your intelligence insecurity though. Think for yourself.
>mfw doestoeskij spends an entire chapter ridiculing communists and radical egalitatianists depicting them as retards and literal cuckholds
>mfw sjw have been the laughing stock of society since forever
So you didn't understand the book?
>>9636430
what chapter?
And he ends the book with submission to god. Are you claiming he is right?
Can /lit/ refute this man?
He was refuted in the epilogue
>>9636370
Yes I can:
He's a big fat meanie
>>9636370
Can I use reason against the characterization of human reason?
this book is so good. i cant put it down
Get in here, mods!
>>9636178
>tfw I'm black and hate these threads
>>9636311
poor baby. got your fee fees hurt? grow the fuck up
I am a illiterate retard
What some good books for starters?
You could start by reading the fucking sticky you retard
>>9636125
I'll try and help you out while still saging.
What interests you? What ails your soul? What's a topic or idea that you believe would draw you in and attach you to a book?
>>9636125
what does /lit think of the Alexandrian quartet? I've been meaning to read this book but whenever I'm at the used book emprioum it's significantly more expensive than everything else.
>>9636066
I will take your silence to mean no one has read them?
>>9636488
Nobody here reads anything that isn't a meme. If they do read non-memes that aren't genreshit they don't post
curious bump
So are we still on for the Moby-Dick reading group? I was delaying reading it for you guys but it looks like everyone is already half-way through it.
please respond
>>9635905
Last I remember it begins in two days and we're reading roughly three chapters a day. With catch up days every six-ish days. (~30 pages a day)
>>9636127
but are people still on board?
what are the best and modern childerens /lit/ from your country anons?
there's none i'm aware of. i searched high and low and all i can find is books that don't even try to wrap the moralistic lesson in an enjoyable story.
the author that comes closest to stories for kids for pure entertainment that isn't just simple minded "penny at the grocery store" would be franz hohler. strangely, he's also from my country, but that's pure coincidence and he also has those "we're so politically correct" books, but i just ignore them.
>>9635877
shameless self-bump
>>9635899
thx
Ok, let's have a real debate.
Do more people being now more literate than ever (remember that centuries ago only 2% of people could read at best) means that literature is now more popular than ever?
I'm being optimistic, sure, the publishing industry is trying to adapt to the internet, but it seems there's not better time to be a writer than today.
So, I'm being bias or do I have real reasons why the market has become bigger every year for writers?
Is not like there will be one or two more billion non westeners who will become new middle class in less than ten years.
Hi OP.
>>9635723
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Do more people being now more literate than ever (remember that centuries ago only 2% of people could read at best) means that literature is now more popular than ever?
No. The population is just growing at such a rate to pad the statistic. The average person these days meets the level of literacy required to dissect a paragraph-long or so Facebook post, which is still even too much for some people. There are psychological effects of Twitter posts being limited to 140 characters, you know.
>>9636069
there are more people born with mensa IQ than ever before as well.
Bulgarian authors are very cool and you should read them.
>Dimitar Talev
>Dimitar Dimov
>Nikola Vaptsarov
>Hristo Smirnenski
>Geo Milev
>Hristo Botev
>Pencho Slaveykov
>Penyo Penev
>Peyo Yavorov
Are some of the best and most influential authors (in my opinion). What do you think?
>>9635703
I have no idea about Bulgarian literature, I'm just bumping your thread out of sympathy. The only authors from my country whom /lit/ ever discusses are those few who made a name for themselves outside the borders (of which we share one): Cioran, Ionesco, Eliade. The only name I barely know from your list is Hristo Botev, and that's only because I used to work in an office on Hristo Botev blvd.
Can you give some good starter novels that I can marathon?
>>9635830
The Iron Candlestick by Dimitar Talev
Tobacco by Dimitar Dimov
Antichrist - Emilian Stanev
Lyuben Dilov - The Trip of Icarus