Recently graduated and desu I don't feel like doing anything. I've been sitting home for the past month and a half looking for stuff to do just feeling empty. I want to change that by starting to read again. Recommend me something to read.
Also, sticky has link that doesn't work anymore (bookzz). Their new domain is b-ok.org
have you even applied anywhere?
Jerusalem. That should keep you busy.
>>9641063
Applied to some insurance company, got an interview, saw the place and how soul crushing working there would be, started doubting why the fuck I even got my degree, etc. Now I got no desire to apply anywhere.
Jerusalem by alan moore?
>>9641083
actuarial math?
idk insurance is important. I'd love to do that if I could
What is the best English translation of the Bhagavad Gita?
The new translation by Feuerstein seems great. What do you think of it?
Is the Feuerstein really the good scholarly edition that is said it is?
>>9641147
Yes, Feuerstein did a great job. Not a smooth or easy read, but there's a wealth of content.
I read the Norton Critical Edition and thought it was good. Can't compare it with other translations though.
feel free to use libgen to find links to books that you think are both worth reading as well as masterful translations.
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/
>The Karamazov Brothers (Ignat Avsey)
https://fiction.libgen.pw/book/detail/hash/f8b8675e0a83289180062d37d110626d
>Crime and Punishment (David McDuff)
https://fiction.libgen.pw/book/detail/hash/51ec31a4d5e84dd2ecef5ef0e89c3be1
>Beowulf (Seamus Heaney; pls no bully)
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=CC5CF7E629E90EE9C2717BED2063948B
>The Magic Mountain (John E. Woods)
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=B2AC64FA411960B2E91EF69A123EAC72
>Kafka's "The Castle" (Mark Harman. i can't overstate how misrepresentative the Muir's translation is, and can't count how many offput readers for which it is responsible)
https://fiction.libgen.pw/book/detail/hash/12b507f4523584ac34610f99852f98f0
>Complete Euripedes [5 vol.] and Sophocles [2 vol.] (ed. Richard Lattimore for UChicago)
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=1C642DC85DB17E474B074FE1938D082C
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=EDB1D9160868EB4117473EADE64F926D
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=F4F752B68DA37205143212A9B5CC7B3D
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=E8E521B1AE617129F8F0AC5859A258AE
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=5A26F1CD2D22D48CCE019CE865035ADF
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=429EE4CD3B5E5D78D3708D3970CA7408
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=8A286C0EB8BFFB0200B03E7116FB83F3
>War and Peace (Maudes' translation, revised by Amy Mandelker for Oxford World Classics)
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=DF8060A1FAB384C0C848D022421FD21C
haha wow what are those? books?
consider the importance of a good translation, especially in a long work such as the brothers karamazov. constance garnett—for all the good she did—had terribly dry prose and sucked all the sensuality out of dostoyevsky. i thought her C&P and "fathers and sons" were serviceable, if not good. the popular translators for russians today are, of course, pevear and volokhonsky. i cribbed this blog to highlight the differences between them.
https://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/01/the-pevearvolokhonsky-hype-machine-and-how-it-could-have-been-stopped-or-at-least-slowed-down
>I forgot to mention the bawdy song the innkeeper’s girls sing just before Dmitry’s arrest. It’s a good test for any translation, because one of the rhymes is left unfinished—the narrator breaks off halfway through the second line and simply says, “There followed a most unprintable rhyme.” Even P & V realize that a literal translation won’t do in this case. The English version has to imply how the verse would have ended , leaving the translator no choice but to decide what he thinks the missing text is, using context clues and his own intuition (mostly the latter).
>The song is about a series of men who come courting the singers, and their reasons for accepting or rejecting their advances. The gypsy, for example, is a no-go because “He’ll turn out to be a thief / And that, I’m sure, will bring me grief.” The businessman does better: “To the wealthy merchant I’ll be wed / And a queen I’ll lie, all day in bed.”
>The unfinished couplet is about a soldier. The original Russian doesn’t give a translator much to go on: Google Translate renders it “Soldiers will pack carry / And I for him . . . ”
>P & V make a decent attempt, managing to work in a mild profanity:
The soldier boy will pack his kit
And drag me with him through . . .
>But we must concede the superiority of the Avsey version, which, unlike P & V’s, makes me laugh:
The soldier will march to seek his luck
And leave me dying for a . . .
for those anons deathly insecure over their lack of knowledge, a more in-depth guide to starting with the greeks.
>>9640980
sho nuff
To what degree was he influenced by Hinduism?
Hindu don't proselytize.
Greco-Buddhist influence of Christianity is the more interesting topic, but the evidence is severly lacking, particularly when it comes to monotheistic Galilean Jews who would need to be open to pagan ideas.
>>9640853
0%
Aside from one or two yogis who visited the eastern Roman provinces, there was no Hindu influence in the Roman empire, and absolutely none in Judea which remained strictly jewish. Jesus was firmly rooted in the apocalyptic vein of second temple judaism.
I was thinking of this today: basically how do we know that the scripture which has been assized and augmented by the Church numerous times is valid? Where is the proof that they did not simply take the words of Christ which are a wonderful philosophy and then ascribe all kinds of justifications for their cult hundreds of years later. I honestly would like to know that. In answer to OP probably only tangentially via Platonism and Stoicism if those schools were at all influenced by Hindus I couldn't say.
What are your reasons for reading the western canon?
>>9640821
When I was younger and gung ho i read about 40 of these in the sake of bringing all knowledge unto myself. Now I would much rather search out new and lesser known literary experiences, including contemporary literature that might one day be well regarded.
>>9640821
Am perpetually bored
I can't go through life without ever bothering to read what the greatest minds wrote.
Why do laypeople believe Nietzsche to be a philosopher "nihilism"? Does this have to do with Christianity being so inherent in culture that, in trying to refute its values, even the non-religious believe this to be amoralism or, (and I still don't fully know what this means), a belief in "nothing"?
>>9640722
Nietzsche is technically a nihilist. Nihilism is the belief that things have no inherent value. Nietzsche agreed, he just held value-creating at a higher esteem.
>>9640722
>>9640722
You overcompensating things. Most people think of Nietzsche as "that dude who said 'God is dead.' " and half of them think he's a nazi for some reason.
Today we begin developing /lit/'s literary manifesto for whatever the next school/movement in literary theory/writing/criticism will be. Post what you would like to see or think is coming. Bonus for getting a bit deeper than "muh DFW new sincerity." Flesh it out!
>bonus: dubs decide name.
I'm starting abstractionism. It is the entropy of post-modernism and I will take responsibility for the stages of modernist death.
The whole point of aesthetics is things falling perfectly into place and the point of literature is building the most complex situations that flawlessly settle.
>>9640661
interesting. Feel free to elaborate anon.
I am actually interested and wanted to start this thread to see what everyone thought. It would be interesting (though unlikely) if we could come to some sort of a consensus. I just want to see progress and hope that when I am done with my graduate studies I get to help develop the new movement :)
how do you move from having a basic plot idea to a more fleshed out story?
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>>9640631
hard work
characters
You write (which mean you may have to stop thinking).
Is there any literature designed to expand upon the legitimate "greenpilled" viewpoint pertaining to the world's elites being concocted of satanists aiming for world manipulation and their puppets? Preferably an introduction to the banking establishment that sprawls across nations, or perhaps a sample that sheds a spotlight on Marx having a literal bloodline connected to the evildoers he was supposedly against.
Also Alexander Hamilton was a sack of shit.
>Banking establishment
>Green pilled
>Posts anti-semitic propaganda screenshot
I sink further into elitism every day that I see this shit regurgitated from mouth to mouth by pseudo-intellectuals who can't recognize the taste and smell of disinformation.
>>9640622
>Defending the federal reserve
Moron.
>he reads dumb people books
>>9640601
>He deems religion unhealthy
>>9640601
Scuse me what do the numbers and being lower or higher mean?
>>9640601
pls explain more
No water thread?
objectively speaking, who cares?
>>9640587
>Threads aren't water.
>Goes to grocery store
Water
>Stuck in traffic
Water
>Doing taxes
Water
>Playing tennis
Water
>Going on cruises
And but so Water
>Going to work every day
Capital W Water
>Being generally unhappy
Water w/r/t Water
Is there any fiction that explores deconstrution?
>>9640528
All of Laszlo Krasznahorkai's works.
>>9640528
memes
>>9640535
Is there an ideal starting point?
Reminder that anything you or anyone might do or say will inevitably be a mind image that could have any other shape, including its opposite. And there is nothing we can do about it other than make a new image if the old one doesnt suit us, which is as good as keeping the old one.
>>9640503
Reminder that OP injects mental imagery of cocks in his mouth, consistently does this, and is incapable of existing in a state whereas this ceases.
What I really love is reading books.
>>9640531
Post your feet bitch
Where do I fuking type @find etc.?
This is from the sticky and I dont fucking get it.
>>9640449
Those look like console commands, if I had to guess. So you don't type them in any postbox if that's what you're wondering. Perhaps in the ctrl F command box. Been too long since I've been able to use a computer.
>>9640500
Np my frienderino. I have overcome my limitations and have now almost figured it out.
This whole stuff revolves around IRC.
just download an irc client
woke lit general. what have you been reading lately?
please remember to keep capital letters and racism to a minimum
Does Kanye's "I Love Kanye" freestyle count as postmodern verse? Serious question
>>9640441
>muh racism is a spiritual problem
guy is a neolib faggot. This is good but not necessarily "woke."
>>9640441
#altwoke manifesto? They'd probably hate the idea that I'm posting this on 4chan, but w/e
http://tripleampersand.org/alt-woke-manifesto/