Which is better Oxford World's Classics or Penguin Classics? Why?
>>9725352
What anime is this?
Also, it all depends on the book really. As far as quality, I prefer penguin classics as the plastic on the cover often peels on the Oxfords, but that does vary by book. Really whichever you get is fine - the notes and introduction are generally good enough in both. More extensive in the Oxfords I have but you really don't need it all. Your decision should just be based on price and translation - or maybe cover if you're a faggot like me.
>>9725352
Fun pic. I highly enjoyed it.10/10
Oxford, not even close. Only get Penguins if they have a particular translation that is better than what Oxford provides.
What are the most important fiction books one should read in his life?
>>9725164
Don Quixote.
>>9725164
Epic of Gilgamesh
The Illiad
The Odyssey
The Aeneid
Metamorphoses
Divine Comedy
Don Quixote
In that order.
>>9725368
Iliad. Iliad
I L I A D
American /his/tory buffs, what happened during the mid 19th century that turned everyone so liberal and opposed to slavery and anti womens rights? It seems like it laid the foundations of the 60's that turned everything to hell.
I know Transcendentalism was a huge backbone of these new mindsets, was there something similar in this nature before it? It was very conservative just before transcendentalists, there were literary realists like Jane Austen, so I'm asking a few stages back.
Also I imagine literary works were the most influential on culture back then.
Where did liberal works stem from in literary terms?
desu the whole 1800s is kind of a void in my cultural knowledge.
I am curious about this as well.
>>9725121
Industrial revolution. "Liberalism" is a tool of wealthy businessman to get cheap labor into the country and to divide people via economic politics. The Republicans post-civil war let in unchecked numbers of immigrants and democrats sperged out against blacks rather than protecting "American culture." That laid the groundwork for the "melting pot" (which didn't exist until it was a convenient talking point for those in power) that diversified and liberalized the country.
Basically the civil war destroyed everything traditional about the country, for better or for worse. Even the liberal Christians of the 1700s and early 1800s were against the type of liberalism we understand today, i.e. "an inclusive and diverse America"
why don't you ask in /his/ instead of /lit/ you stupid plonker
>Descartes recounts that he mocked friends of his who once showed up at his home at 11:00am in the morning and was surprised to find him still in bed.
>"What are you doing?" they inquired skeptically.
>"Thinking," Descartes replied.
>The group was stunned, but Descartes criticized them in turn for privileging often nonsensical practical tasks over the beauty of pure quiet reflection in bed.
Is this the most definitive argument for the maintenance of NEETdom there is? How will you transcend the superficial, materialistic societal orders and contemplate profound thoughts through the activation of the highest forms of knowledge and ideas if you actively participate in the system and pursue fruitless wage cuck jobs?
I think the trick is finding an easy job that pays you well. In other words, a sensical practice.
Laying in bed all day gets old, and depressing.
>>9724990
No, moderation is key. You can't be a neet forever, and you shouldn't wageslave yourself to death. Take the two extremes, and it's common sense that nothing healthy/viable comes out of them.
>top 3 works of the 19th century
>top 3 modernist works
>top 3 post-modernist works
>r8 others
>Walt Whitman-Leaves of Grass
>Sigmund Freud-On The Interpretations of Dreams
>Herman Melville-Moby Dick
>Ezra Pound-Cantos
>Wittgenstein-Tractatus
>James Joyce-Ulysses
Can't comment on the postmoderns at this point
bad thread. modernism and postmodernism are way too big categories for a modern reader to wrangle down to 3 titles and all three categories have some predictable canon answers almost every lit user will agree with
>>9725050
It's not supposed to be what almost every lit user would agree with, it's supposed to be your personal opinion you ape
When did you realize that Marxism was the end point of philosophy?
Marx convincingly demonstrated that philosophical problems were resolved in the realm of social being and political praxis. Philosophy can only exist as a separate discipline if you abstract its subjects from their historical content in a fruitless search for essences, thus rendering them meaningless. The practice of philosophy reaches its climax in the conscious realization that it is basically class struggle in theory.
He took all that from Hegel's objective spirit you fucking dunderhead.
Actually a decent Marx thread for a change.
>>9724803
Except Hegel's wankery happens exclusively in the realm of ideals.
>Muh metaphysics
Derrida is the end point.
what does /lit/ think about jordan b peterson?
>>9724781
dunno, never heard of him
>>9724781
Literally who?
I think he was a typical Christian who was introduced to Nietzsche and had his whole worldview torn to shreds so as a defence mechanism his mind was open to believing in anything that would revive his faith in Christianity and that happened to be literally redefining the definition of truth through pragmatism.
opinions on harry potter: the books, fans, and author.
not a fan of the books, fans seem to worsen everyday, and the is always kidding and it bothers me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebfjuk2fHJo
cult of personality
Don't get me wrong, it's a good book and I enjoyed reading it but it's way overblown.
Oh and the fans, don't even get me started. I met someone who claimed they were a huge fan of the books but had only read the first 3.
you get to invite 5 writers to a dinner party. who would you invite? for me: (off the top of my head)
Shakespeare
Milton
Byron
Borges
Pynchon
If Henry Miller isn't a dinner guest your list needs revision.
this is a dumb wank-thread unless you also mention what conversation you'd have and how it might go.
>>9724574
Hunter S Thompson
Shakespeare
Goethe
Woolf
Rupi Kaur
Hunter would hook up with some mescaline/acid and we would go batshit cray cray, start an orgie and recitete Hamlet/Faust while banging our brains out
I just recently finished Dubliners and the whole time i was really looking forward to reading The Dead as I'd heard it was one of the most respected short stories ever written.
Turns out it was fuckin boring. It's filled with anti-thematic filler and overblown with "regular-people" shit that you'd have to be dull to find interesting. The tacked on ending is the only compelling part in the whole story.
Yeah, I get it. I really do the whole themes of death, music, and circling and whatnot but shit, this kinda thing has been done so much better by now. Way too long for what it was.
I actually think Araby was the best story by a long shot.
Someone prove me wrong.
OP, I assume you've read it in english, right?
Are you a native? Do you think some above average english speaker could be able to read it in english?
>>9724592
Yeah I read it in english.
It's not particularly hard to read.
It is boring as all fuck though, so brace yourself.
The Dead is actually kind of overrated at this point. It's great, sure, but no more so than some of the other stories in Dubliners, and it's sort of just the one people remember because it's the last one.
I am a huge fan of A Little Cloud and After The Race.
Any other examples of (good) authors who wrote in a language that wasn't their native tongue? How old was Beckett when he started learning French anyways?
>>9724460
Nabokov. Never read Beckett in French but he is probably my favorite writer in English.
>>9724460
agota kristof, definitely
Joseph Conrad
He learned English at 16, IRRC.
>author spends 4 paragraphs describing the scenery
>2 lines of dialogue
>2 pages more of scenery
Tolkien is to blame for this nonsense isn't he.
No that shit started in the 1800s
>reading Emil Zola
>Its a fucking botany manual
>>9724309
>>Its a fucking botany manual
holy shit this stop this fucking hell i'm not trying to become an expert on local flora and fauna i want a STORY
at least with stuff like Neuromancer and James Joyce the way things are told, the actual style of writing, is entertaining in and of itself
with shitty fantasy its not even that its just a bore
>>9724309
True, but Zola writes great dialogue too
Notes has the most psychological depth. Prove me wrong
>>9724290
>Jew
>nigger
>Irish
>white
>>9724290
Notes From The Underground is satirical tho. Anyone who dentifies with it is ironically just embarassing themselves.
>>9724290
>tfw invisible man was my first big boi book
feels wierd
The ultimate showdown:
Who wins, and why?
>>9724258
Shakespeare obviously, by a wide margin. Ulysses is really a worthless book, a novelty at best.
Shakespeare because he precedes Joyce
sources: Pierre Menard Author of The Quixote
>>9724258
>Who wins
Francis Bacon.
>and why?
Because I'm never wrong.
>X is shit (bad)
>X is the shit (good)
>read (present)
>read (past)
>>9724248
>raise the structure (build it up)
>raze the structure (demolish it)
Where (location)
Were (time)