Should I read it? I heard that it makes more sense in Chinese, should I learn Chinese to read it?
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Best English version coming thru
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There isn't a whole lot to make sense of. Pretty basic concepts. I pick it up every now and then for relaxy time.
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>>9385599
Learning Chinese is literally a lifelong endeavor, don't bother just to read one book. In any case it's written in classical Chinese which is different to modern Mandarin.
The D.C. Lau translation is one of the more scholarly and accurate ones.
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I will write a best selling young adult novel in 12 weeks and become rich off of it.
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What's the plot?
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>>9385602
A teenage girl discovers a mirror to another world where she gains elemental powers and fights demons but the demons were actually angels.
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>And thus there can be little doubt that in the union of Poetry with Music in its popular sense, we shall find the widest field for the Poetic development. The old Bards and Minnesingers had advantages which we do not possess — and Thomas Moore, singing his own songs, was, in the most legitimate manner, perfecting them as poems.
What did he mean by this?
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>>9385584
Can we ban these shitty "what did X mean by this?", "wow really makes you think", ,"redpill me on" and "is X right?" retard-tier threads already?
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>>9385597
wow really makes you think
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>>9385597
Someone give me a quick rundown on this anon
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>lol i dont know shit about writing accessible fantasy
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>>9385531
Mt. Doom is Oroduin. Treebeard's Entish name is incredibly long.
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>lol i don't know shit about jokes
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TREE? I AM NO TREE
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WEW GUYS I'VE ONLY READ 3 (THREE) PAGES FROM HIM AND HE TOTALLY CHANGED MY LIFE MY WORLD MY MIND I FEEL LOST I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS HOLY SHIT GUYS I CAN EVEN FEEL THE UPHEAVAL IN MY ASS
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wtf im so embarrassed now
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nice dubs
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if this is the daily nietzsche thread, should i read ecce homo first or the anti christ first?
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discuss
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Do it
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>>9385364
you first
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>suicide-hanging-knot.jpg
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Do people on this board seriously advice "starting with the Greeks"? Is it really that important an era in literary history that it's particularly helpful to study it before progressing to later works?
As well as that the program in pic related seems quite long and dense and contains several anthologies of works.
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I have the same question with respect to philosophy. To what extent is "starting with the Greeks" a meme?
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>>9385332
>with respect to philosophy
This is OP here (I have slightly more knowledge of philosophy). Reading the primary texts would be an inefficient use of your time. Reading a textbook or a history of philosophy is probably a better introduction. They'll take less time to read, be more concise, will explain ideas in clearer terms and will stress the important points of each philosopher. They'll also provide relevant criticism of the ideas being presented.
If you want to study philosophy it is essential to start with the (pre-Socratic) Greeks.
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>>9385308
They're an easy starting point, in that there isn't a whole hell of a lot of it to read. There are only around 60 works from the period that we have found. It's also the earliest point in human history that the gods are viewed as more or less human. Prior to the Greeks, gods were nothing like man. they were animal headed and to be feared. The Greeks created gods that weren't to be feared. You could laugh at Zeus's exploits as he snuck around on Hera. They were capricious at times, but nothing to hide from. Even Hades is a sympathetic character.
Actually, the first chapter of the first book on the list explains this all pretty well.
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I've started recording a podcast about literature (with bits on music and art as well). I'm pretty widely read (I'm a pseud), and I think I can put together something that's a good medium between novice and expert, for /lit/ types who >read a lot but aren't PhDs or professors or whatever. The goal is a comfy podcast that's about the process of learning and studying lit.
I've got ~20 episodes planned at the moment but I was wondering if there are topics you anons would like to have covered or even would like to talk about, if you feel up to it.
So far I'm working on an episode on Flannery O'Connor, one on the trial scene in King Lear, one on TLOTIAT :^) and one on /out/ literature (not Walden) for spring, just for reference
I guess I see this as ultimately being a /lit/-focused podcast, although I'm not gonna sperg out with memes from here or anything.
Thoughts?
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>>9385232
Sounds nice.
I recommend Kaczynski and Linkola for /outlit/.
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>>9385286
Ooh that would be an interesting direction to go with it
I have a copy of Zerzan's Future Primitive that I haven't touched as well. Good call anon
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>>9385232
audio quality is KEY, google and take that shit seriously. it seriously is the difference between amateurs and listenable shit.
if you can do a good job at this id listen it for sure, i love podcast and i love the things youre writing about right now
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How can I tell if I'm a pseudointellectual?
I don't want to be like those normalfag "soccer dad" types who think that reading New York Times editorials is a good use of their time. I also don't want to end up like those retired 60-year-olds who've realized that they did nothing their entire lives and are trying desperately to find meaning in their final years by plowing through "Great Books" lists. Please help.
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are you afraid to quit your job?
how much of your time outside of the office is spent on work-rated activities?
would you turn down extra work to finish a book?
would you rather be destitute or illiterate?
would you still read if you could never speak to a human being about books ever again?
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Why do you care about a subjective and vaguely defined words and whether they apply to you or not?
Why do you think the choice of media you consume is so important?
What does it mean to "do" something with one's life?
Literally just b urself anon.
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Who cares man, just read books you like.
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Let's speak about the slang of our languages ! 2017-04-15 10:05:28 Post No.9385219
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Let's speak about the slang of our languages !
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What do you think about the slang of your country ? Can you teach me some of it kiddo ?
Here in france, a certain form of it is "verlan" ; we reverse syllables in words : For exemple "maison" (house) will become "sonmai" and "cité (the hood) will become "téssi" then we shorten it and it becomes "tess' ".
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>>9385219
>>/int/
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>>9385219
Eh, the only purpose of slang is to talk about illegal or otherwise unwholesome things on the phone or in public.
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>>9386529
It can be part of literature and /int/ is full of /pol/-tier retards
Do you read multiple books at a time? Do you read part of a book, and begin another, leaving the other book for later?
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I typically have 3 books going at any given time.
One is bathroom reading. This tends to be short stories or history titles.
One is bedside book. This tends to be lighter stuff. My pulp reading. Stuff where I'm not all that concerned about absorbing the material
The third is the book I'm focusing on. It's what I read whenever I can find some quiet time. It will travel with my wherever I go.
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Yes. I have ADHD and reading 3 - 4 books at time helps with getting bored quickly.
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>>9385196
If the third one goes wherever you go why dont you bring it to the bathroom?
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lmao what actually just happened
I'm assuming Gradus is a made up character (how could Kinbote know all the trivial details of his trip?)
What is this book trying to say? That idiots like me that are searching for narrative solutions are in the wrong? Yet why would the author take such pains in hiding these answers so well? Is this just an exercise in agility or a work of art of "depth and meaning"?
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>>9385154
It's a puzzle, essentially, the solution of which is up to you
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How the fuck is it even read? The commentary say "see 148" and then you go there and it says "see notes 27, 54" etc. I get like 6 notes deep and can't remember what the fuck the point was. The poem and prose is god tier tho.
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>>9385203
>the poem is god tier
Please leave this board
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what's the best weird fiction that isn't lovecraft.
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my diary 2bh
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Charles Williams
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>>9385147
10/10 post
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To be able to enjoy literature, you need to be sage; this is the conclusion I got, to be able to enjoy it.
To be able to enjoy literature’s heaven’s sounds it produces -much like classical music- you need if you wish to be able to enjoy it -as well as academical music- a solid graph of grammar, rethoric and oratory; as well as the writing tools writers use to write. That’s it (obvious as it is) how you listen to classical works. Reading a good book is the same as listening to such music.
Without noting the before, is not a delight -bigger than the chinese cartoons you masturbate over and videogames that are a waste of time, if you allow my vulgar desire to say- to enjoy from poetry and prose in the hands of an expert; in any case.
However, this literarian cartoon lolicon site, a site dedicated to the discussion of literarian works, seems already too philistine -allow me to say the dreaded word-; as philistine as the plebs they easily dismiss as less read, found on normie websites, normies that however are as read as they are on literature; because, in the end… y’all too plebian to give proper advice.
But y’all never read and your mediocre advice always telling the shit suggestions of “just read more; lmao faggot” as if simple reading and practice will propell you over mediocrity -since you’ll never understand the rules if you don’t know them-. Why spend 20 years to learn the same rules and tricks -and learning them mediocrily and subconsciusly, not being never able to explain, not in a million years, such rules- I learned in a couple of hours, days, mere just seconds of hard study; but y’all will always say there’s not such rules to writing. What a joke of retardation this board is.
Your inability to tell good prose from bad prose beyond the same shitty opinions some normies has on drawings or some mediocre pleb has on music simple laughable and astoundish, falling on the pathetic.
Die plebs in your mediocrity; you meek maggots.
You can’t even use a semicolon; for God’s sake.
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>Inb4 some snarky reply or some use of some redd¡t response you just read on KYM to trick us you used to lurk here since 2006. But we’ll know how this will end up after this thread dies; I’ll be among the western canon, meanwhile you’ll keep masturbating to some drawings of little girls, like the degenerate you are, meanwhile you read some white supremacy shit, to ignore the fact you school crush got pregnant by tyrone -the black guy you despised so much in school-.
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wow, /lit/ BTFO.
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>>9385117
Borderline incoherent, filled with typos and questionable grammar. Need to try harder if you wanna roleplay as a patrician
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i read gracians art of worldly wisdom and i didn't get it. it seemed just like basic advice on self-control. did i miss something or read the wrong work of his.
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>>9385105
Basic advice in navigation social situations pretty much.
A lot of it seems common sense but he was the first lad to write that kind of stuff down. It's still a good reminder not to get righteous in the face of idiots but rather play the game though.
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>>9385151
did he write anything else
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>>9385284
Ye.