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>>9384465

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/pub

now piss off

>>9384465
If this is true why I am 20 and never kissed a single girl?

>>9384465
Could it be that attraction has to do with looks and not personality? Maybe if I weren't ugly and skinny I'd have fucked a girl by now?

>>9384456

some bigger words than might be used elsewhere, but otherwise that's a pretty textbook definition

>>9384456
Inaccurate and pretentious.

>>9384456
Haha what a tool.

Nigga, if you're seeking some sort of practical utility, learning any language, dead or alive, is useless if you know english. You learn languages because it's fun, plus if manage to become fluent you get to gloat over the fact that you learned a skill only a few thousand people in the world have.
As far as Greek/latin go, I can only speak for the latter. Latin is enjoyable, complex and very different from english, yet at the same time you can achieve reading fluency within a year because of the huge overlap in vocabulary. If you're interested in history and culture of Rome, or scholastic theology of the middle-ages, I say it's well worth it.

>Convince me to learn Greek and Latin

Why would I do that? What makes you so important that I would devote my time trying to get you, a complete stranger, to do something that has no bearing on my life whatsoever? I don't care if you improve yourself, you can go ahead and wallow in ignorance if you want. Didn't even say please.

>literally all Latin and Greek works have been translated into English, which would do just fine, unless you're autistic.

You're already lost if you can't see why this is an inane thing to say.

>>9384422
>Negative capability
I'm a bit skeptical of this concept. Attempts to avoid ideology generally run into an acceptance of the status quo as a natural state.

>>9384558
Is that how you see it? I always read Negative capability as the ability to accept people as they are without the urge or anxiety to challenge the opinions you disagree with. Which is why I think Keats thought it essential for a writer.

>>9384629
I don't write fiction, I'm a journalist, and it reminds me of "journalistic objectivity", where you don't insert your own views on a certain topic. So instead, you seek out the opposite view, if you feel it is necessary.

That feeling of necessity is the tricky part. Lets say I'm writing about a KKK protest downtown. Of course I'm going to contact someone like the ACLU or Southern Poverty Law Center to get their rebuttal of the KKK's message.

But that doesn't always happen. A collegue wrote about Richard Dawkin's recent vist to our town, he got a banal quote from the local catholic diocese, and also from the event organizer/host (the Unitarian church), but he left it at that. I feel the bigger controversy surrounding Dawkins isn't the Religion vs Science debate, but rather Dawkins increasingly divisive rhetoric around Feminism and the Humanities.

The choice to include or not include certain view points is an ideological choice. In fiction, such as shakespeare, I suspect this would equate to what kinds of characters you include as foils to other characters. By not including an ideological enemy to contrast a certain view, you can let that position fly as natural or objective.

Why would you not let such a beautiful story play out.
You have to let him go, you owe it to him and yourself.

you can't change someone. either accept that's how it is and deal with the consequences it has on your relationship or move on and find someone who doesn't make you want to change them.

>>9384353
It isn't beautiful, he's miserable.

Waverley
Pride & Prejudice
Great Expectations
Ulysses
You Can't Go Home Again
The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra

>>9384286
The Odyssey
The Iliad
Metamorphoses
The Aenid
The Divine Comedy
Paradise Lost
Dead Souls
War & Peace
Crime and Punishment
In Search of Lost Time
Don Quixote
Moby Dick

I enjoyed Slaughterhouse 5, 1984, and Brave New World, anything like that?

>>9384137
Only if you're doing it deliberately and meaningfully. Verbosity for its own sake has no value, it should be instead seen as a tool you've got to elevate and make even more specific, emblematic and palpant concepts and dynamics in your texts.

But I'm pretty sure you already knew that.

word on the street is there are several disjoint aesthetics

>>9384102
>inb4 "proofread"

>>9384102
there honestly aren't any useful tips that haven't been said millions of times before. writing isn't difficult. bad writers just make it so. now, if you want to be a successful Stephen King type writer, then i'd say read his On Writing book. everything you need to know about writing easy to digest stories is there.

okay, i'll leave with one tip. do what works for you. if you'rea night owl, well, write at night. if you're a morning person, set apart a few hours every morning to write. see? easy as pie.

Just do whatever. Don't worry about if you are writing the wrong way or shit, because if you try to force yourself into somebody else's rules for writing your writing is going to suffer.

>>9384028
>virgin detected

>>9384028
>breakers
shit's so crash

>>9384078
not that guy but reading a book on a beach is easily more fulfilling than sex

Or should the plan find itself in the first draft?

>>9384027
No dude just wing it

The only good book I ever finished was unplanned, and fixed during the revisions. The book suggested itself after the rough draft, and I modeled it after writing the rough draft without a plan.

>>9383945
Math is just an abstract language.

Sounds like an unfalsifiable hypothesis, desu.

>>9383945
Mathematics lets us glimpse at the true forms of the universe.

>>9383855
Homer's The Odyssey

>>9383857
I've actually already read a fair portion of this, but good suggestion. Thank you!

>>9383855
Druon's Accursed Kings series is probably just what you're looking for.

>>9383827

I like Michael Schmidt's Lives of the Poets, which is an overview of important English language poets. He also has a book covering the history of the novel.

>>9383827
Harold Bloom's Western Canon is supposed to be pretty insightful

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>>9383827
This one for philosophy

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>>9383819

>>9383819
>creme de la creme
oh, i see, cliches. thanks, op!

>>9383819
We need a progressive English, free of hate.

>>9383661
>it's a rationalist tries to make a claim about what he experiences through the five sense episode

>>9383682
Have you read the book?

Nobody ?