How come you're not celebrating the birth of Pynchon by reading one of his great books? He's 80 years old today, guys.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2017/may/08/thomas-pynchon-at-80-eight-reasons-to-celebrate-his-birthday
>>9480173
I've read TCoL49 and GR. Where do I go next? V or Mason & Dixon?
> tfw no Pynchon autobiography written in the funny, absurdist way of his own novels
I mean, I'm not surprised, but it'd be neat to see what he's done with himself outside of publishing postmodern classics. I bet he has a bunch of stories to tell.
>take three shots of finlandia
>play a game of overwatch while sipping beer
>once I'm sure I'm tipsy, start writing, taking another shot of finlandia every 30 minutes
>eventually stumble to bed
>wake up with a throbbing hangover
>look over what I wrote last night
>it's literal shit, not even stream of consciousness, and it eventually turns into babbling nonsense near the end
Was Hemmingway a hack?
>>9480149
Maybe you just can't hold your liquor
>>9480149
Why you write after playing videogames, especially a terrible one?
If you want to write drunk, you're going to be losing focus at the expense of spontaneity. Any kind of activity that's not writing will only dull you more.
I just started reading as a hobby on my free time and i was wondering how much do you guys read a day? I started out with stephen king books and id go through 50-100 pages a day. This was all on my commute and right before bed.
Sometimes I'll read three books in a day sometimes I'll read nothing for a month.
>>9480147
So it's all spontaneous and depends on mood? I've been doing it more as a routine, right before bed i turn off my phone and snuggle up with a book for 30-45 mins.
I play video games for 8 hours and then read like 45 minutes.
Let's have some Monday Morning Creativity, lads. Roll em, write em, post em.
>>9480115
>Trochaic pentameter
Nice
Falling pine cones in a darkened forest
Landing bluntly on the verdant floor as
Sound is swallowed in the vast expanses,
Rent to pieces by the myriad branches
Other creatures walk the woods in evening
Punctuating silence with their steady breathing
Every snap or crunch another warning:
Darker beings stalk from night to morning
>>9480115
okay
>>9480115
fug
Is it true that Dostoyevsky planned for Alyosha to become a political terrorist in the sequel to this novel?
Don't know but that would have been badass.
>>9480108
I would've liked to see Alyosha help Dmitri escape his prison sentence.
What do you guys think of Freud's studies and of psychoanalysis in general?
Are his books/studies interesting to read? Where do I start with Freud?
Psychopathology of Everyday Life is a good starter.
>>9480056
Jung is better. Start with The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious.
What do you think about the concept of overarching plot?
Im having trouble writing my novel since im so concerned with adhering to prefixed ideas about how something should work, even if it might work better in a format where every chapter could almost be a standalone.
Should a book have a cohesive story? Should it focus more on delivering a chapter at a time and maybe then tying them all together by something overarching? Or maybe something else?
depends
>>9480015
Stop posting things like this; I'm trying to do nofap
Women are a mistake.
Just picked this up /lit/, What am i in for?
Pic related
>>9479970
As someone who is really into historical-criticism, you will find a lackluster argument that was made elsewhere betterjesus as an apocalypticpiggybacked on an argument that you hear nowherejesus was part of the anti-roman militancy.
Also as I remember, the author does not have very impressive credentials to be writing on this, and it became popular because he had a spat on fox news about how muslim academics should not be able to write books on christianity.
The guys a Muslim apologist with a habit of lying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9RmAo6XVAA
It's not very well regarded by bible scholars.
Why do people like The Stranger? It's edgy bullshit designed for people who hate everything.
More importantly it goes against his views in The Myth of Sisyphus. In The Stranger the message is more "Life is pointless, so I stopped giving a fuck" whereas in Sisyphus it's rather "I know life is pointless, but why should I give a fuck about that?"
Would like to have a better understanding of why it has such appeal
>>9479967
You already answered your own question.
>>9479967
>edgy
The end is life affirming. Only after his destructive and nihilistic choices have alienated other human beings and annihilated life does he realize he values what he is to lose.
>>9479967
Are you retarded? Meursault isn't that self-aware to say "hur dur life is pointless." He's just indifferent. So, you're in error, friendo, though you're thinking you're actually providing an acceptable summary of its philosophical basis.
>>9479966
>hey /lit/, please make fun of this guy that I disagree with politically; it makes me feel good about myself
Back to /r/samharris my man
>>9480003
nice strawman, did you build that yourself?
i actually like dave, i just think he has the potential to be memed
also, sam harris is a chode, kinda like you
>Dave Rubin
>/lit/
His voice sounds like Pynchon's but how is this literature related, exactly?
What didn't you read the greatest hidden gem of literature yet, the greatest novel of post-1950, Cyclops?
>>9479950
I never heard about it. Sell it to me.
>>9479955
Since I would like to translate some parts on my own but I don't have the book with me right now, I'll use this goodreads review I remember reading after first reading the book a few years back. It's written by someone actually reading the english translation: the novel is not known to people living outside the ex-yugoslavian territory, but it's gaining praise in US academia recently.
I've read the book only two times. It's a bit of a hard read, I would like to read the english translation to see how it feels for non-native readers. The goodreads review by a nice lady:
>>9479994
Reflected in the pale glass window, among the shoes on display, was Melkior's thin, unprepossessing silhouette, a poorly built city dweller. The slanting image reflected in the shop window triggered a crafty sneer inside Melkior, and the word mobilization suddenly found itself in autumn mud churned by a squelching olive drab monotony of dejected strangers on some endless trek; there was the bluster of angry sergeants, the tired voice of sodden boots, and the mysterious word "aide-de-camp." Here was born a fear of the new events around him: the driver bound for Apatin to drive a tank...across our mountainous country...Oh for a mountain and a forest in which to go quiet and still like an insect curled deep inside the bark of an indestructible tree: I'm not here...and to live, to live...How to conceal ones existence, steal from the world one's traitorous body, take it off to some endless isolation, conceal it in a cocoon of fear, insinuate oneself into a temporary death?
This is the test of our fair narrator-can Melkior starve himself to avoid being called to military duty in World War II? Filled with literary allusions galore-from Dante to Joyce, Shakespeare to Dosteyvesky-Cyclops is a vertiginous journey into the mind of a tortured man whose mind is unraveling from lack of food and sleep. Published in 1965 and set in the forties of the Former Yugoslavia, Cyclops is Marinkovic's version of literary realism so acute and ego-maniacal there is no escaping for the reader. The reader can only revel in his death defying acts of prose, no small thanks to Vlada Stojiljkovic's amazing translation. This is a classic taught in Croatian schools and with good reason-Marinkovic addresses the threat of human loss and sacrifice in the name of nationalism but also our own detachment from the cost of war when we are not directly involved.
Capitalism or Cultural Marxism?
Marxist materialism and Capitalist materialism are the same thing.
Both reduce everything to mere exchange value and work relations at the expense of everything else richer or mysterious or human or non-human.
Marxists are really just these vile, inverted Captalists.
They and Capitalists are two sides of the same quality/enchantment/culture-draining Enlightenment project mechanism.
It's really rich a little sickly Marxist rat creep like Adorno complaining about fake culture or whatever when Marxists celebrate Capitalist modernity and industry wiping away everything qualitative and enriching and strange in life.
>>9479896
Decadence
>>9479906
dosen't allot of cultural Marxism have roots in heidiggerian anti-enlightenment thought though?
>tfw you read a book and can now tell when pseuds on /lit/ are bullshitting
>>9479859
Give us a For Example, OP
>>9479862
Any book in the meme trilogy, any Greek work that isn't the Iliad or the Odyssey.
>>9479870
Give us a For Example of what the books really say that people are bullshitting on, OP
I'm looking for detective / noir novels that are actually good, could you recommend me some?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V0x9DA8JRw
Never read them personally but I've always heard good things about Raymond Chandler.
the long dark tea-time of the soul by douglas adams
>>9479900
>Never read them personally but
>recommends someone anyway
>>9479909
>good detective/noir fiction
>douglas adams
This, right here, this is the kind of nonsense that drives people to make this place a cesspool to keep out the riffraff
OP, look into Six Problems for Don Isidro Parodi, a collaboration between Jorge Luis Borges and Adolfo Bioy Casares
Happy birthday, Thomas Pinecone! Fun fact: Pynchon is a Taurus.
Goofs and gags
Came to /lit/ for the first time in a month for Pynchon's birthday.
Happy birthday, Pynchon!
Happy birthday Ruggles!
Objective ranking
1. Against the Day
2. Gravity's Rainbow
2. Mason & Dixon
4. The Crying of Lot 49
5. Vineland
6. Inherent Vice
7. V.
8. Bleeding Edge
Not listed
Slow Learner
The Letters of Wanda Tinasky