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saved this one a while ago but have never seen them for other languages. are there any out there?
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>>9485976
bumping for german
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>Pimsleur
>Advanced

>Waiting until late on to begin using Anki
>Duolingo as an advanced resource
>App sources past beginner

The only good recommendations on this chart are the textbooks desu
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>>9486134
please correct us. what is anki? and also bump for spanish/italian

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Why is he highly regarded? He sat in a room with his encyclopedia(s) for way too many years, filling page upon page with references from said encycopedia(s), all the while never developing a single character or raising a single novel question.

His charade is up in the internet age.

Also should I start with CoL49 or dive right into GR?
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>>9485922
Talk about bein' a brainlet.

Start with Vineland
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>>9485922
Start with M&D
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CoL49 for proper route, GR for enjoyment.

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>Tfw you're smarter than the author you're currently reading.

I hate brainlet authors (Dan Brown)
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>>9485906

Whenever dan brown's characters pause in their dodging of bullets to talk about the educational and historical aspects of the newest grand ballroom they've had to run through in order to keep the christians from destroying science, I literally jizz all over the place
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>>9485906
how is it?
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>>9485912
Your opinion is yours

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The pressure was extreme. One of them would die in the fight. They both were the kind to never give up.
Teddy was the eldest of a strict bourgeois family whose destiny was to be the best, or the best.
Louis had lived ten years in the streets and once had had to kill a dog with his teeth.

As blood was soaking the carpet, a flickering image passed trough Louis' mind, of the time he had to suck a penis for money. In the throes of hate, vengeance and exhaustion, his Achilles' heel resurfaced : in the face of extreme immediate danger, he had learned to sacrifice pride for the sake of sheer life, and it had become a habit.

Teddy was not like that. He still had the pride of a young bull, and it was the first time he was faced with the dilemma of having to choose between winning, and living.
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Holy... I want more
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You can both win and live and sacrifice no pride if you're patient senpai
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>>9485752
ideas?

Anyone read the Prelude? Read an extract from it and it sounded pretty good desu
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Definitely read it, it's one of the most important texts in all of English literature, even though a lot of people hate Wordsworth nowadays.
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>>9485660
It's magnificent. If you can allow that the fucker wrote an epic about his own development, it contains some of the greatest poetry in English.
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>>9485704
Agreed
I can understand how some of the ballad stuff may pall, but the 1805 Prelude is simply wonderful.

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I am full of ideas and full stories but i can't write a single page. What's wrong with me?
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>>9485560
keep an idea/story journal and after a few weeks you'll be able to piece together a coherent story
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>>9485560
write me the 1st sentence, anon.
give me the general idea.
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Everyone has ideas. That's not even the hard part. The writing is the hard part. If it wasn't, everyone you know would be a writer.

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It seems like so much content in books is just meaningless conversation or action and about 60 percent is actually meaningful, is this just to extend pages?
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>>9485448
Most of this 'filler' has a purpose. It's intended to get you in the right mood, to be detailed so you can imagine the setting, to build up suspense, etc etc
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Publishers do ask authors to "flesh out" skimpy books, because buyers feel cheated by paying the price of a book for what is, in their mind, not a full book.

That being said, >>9485496 does have a point that a lot of what you might call "filler" is mood- or atmosphere-setting for the book.
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There are multiple possible answers.

If the author in your OP pic is what you typically read, then yes, I agree, the books you read are fairly empty and padded out. 1000 page books (and reading them) looks impressive, so people who don't look for actual beauty in art buy that shit.

On the other hand there's stuff like Tolstoy, Balzac and Melville. All three wrote fat books with slow plots and filled with descriptions. Tolstoy could describe so many details that seem completely irrelevant at the first glance. Yet, if you stop and think for a moment, they become very meaningful. He is building his characters in every sentence, with each adverb and adjective, it's unbelievable. Melville, on the other hand, usually deals less with the characters, but he could write a scientific text about whales that is actually a beautiful and ingenious piece of philosophy.

Sometimes you really do have to pad things out, for the rhythm of storytelling, either on a micro or macro level. This must be done carefully and deceivingly, of course. Melville wanted Moby Dick to be a story of grand proportions, but the actual fight with one whale can't be suitably lengthy and epic, so he "padded it out" with the cetology and countless digressions.

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No matter what I write, even a sentence, if it's fiction it turns into genre trash. watch.

Stately, plump Buck Mulligan, vampire prince, hovered up from the stairhead, bearing a bowl of human eyeballs on which ornate cutlery lay crossed.

See that shit? It keeps happening, even when I just try to copy passages from memory. It's like I'm cursed. Someone tell me I'm not alone.
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>>9485240

Embrace it, pack it and sell it in order to afford enough alcohol to forget you have ever written it.
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>>9485240
Write about a writer who can't stop writing genre shit.
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>>9485240
I'm not sure why the line in the sand you've drawn for yourself is genre fiction

Fiction is a waste of time beyond entertainment anyway, if you're going to write fiction just write what you enjoy or can turn into a quick buck

What book had the most influence on the way you see the world?
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>>9485135
the bible
>if i be a good person i'll die and go to this magic place called heaven
sounded based
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>>9485135
Just out of curiosity how did this change the way you see the world, Anon? What I took from this was that although intelligence is at least partly heritable, it still doesn't make sense to treat anyone in a given manner, inductively based on their skin color, or economic class, because there is as much variation within these subsets as there is between them
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>>9485135
The aesthetic brain. It makes me put effort into looking decent.

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/lit/erary confessions. Confess and repent, anons...
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Although I don't like all of his books, I do generally like Neil Gaiman and other than the SJW/Tumblr stuff he shares online, I'm not quite sure how genre fiction readers can hate on American Gods or The Ocean at the End of the Lane.
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I don't think the Greeks is a good place to start if you're new to literature and/or if you're not a Westerner.

George Orwell is good.

Nabokov is good but his opinions on other writers are dog shit.

Cormac McCarthy is good and Corncob-posters are repetitive in their shitposting.

Kafka isn't funny. He's a good writer but "Kafkaesque humour" isn't humour.

I'm eagerly anticipating the release of Gucci Mane's autobiography. I think he's a guy who would have some interesting, sleazy stories to share. I don't even like his music, just genuinely interested in what his book offers.
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>>9484815
I only read 10 pages a day.

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Have you watched John Green's newest video
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>>9484768
Let me guess, he supports hedonism while signalling toward some sort of arbitrary morality of "be a good person"

>as long as you have fun xD
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>>9485194
>wahaaah why can't everyone be an anhedonic bitch like me
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>>9485200
roastie

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What stage are you on, /lit/?
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>>9484490
I vacillate between 5 through 7 to be honest senpai.
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>books as an identity
you've gone too far, you need to go back.
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>>9484490
that's the gayest thing i have ever seen holy shit

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What did he have against Jazz?
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>german hates black people
>marx reader hates poor people
>frankfurt school asshole hates culture
I am shocked
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>>9484386
the blacks
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Probably a closet racist, like many leftists are.

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what does /lit/ think of this and ellis' other works?
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>>9484224
I liked it but it's not as phenomenal as some people make it out to be. Ellis effectively evokes the superficial detail that reflects the superficial personalities that populated yuppie culture, but sometimes his continuity is off (early in the book he mentions the brand of someone's tie and then a few paragraphs later he mentions it's a different brand being worn by the same character - all the name-dropping of brands and costume details probably made it a difficult book to edit/check for continuity).

The shock value - a main reason why a lot of people read the book - is disturbing at times but it gets excessive and almost ridiculous. I'm sure that's somewhat intentional but it feels like it lowers the quality of the book at times.

It's alright, I guess. Legitimately overrated though.
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>>9484224
>but sometimes his continuity is off
Would be interesting to ask him about that but if the whole premise of the book is an unreliable narrator, it might have been intentional.
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>>9484224
the 50 shades of grey form men and of the 90s

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What are /lit/ 's favorite PENS , PENCILS and NOTEBOOKS for taking notes or writing?? What do you recommend?
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>>9484215
I recommend pen and paper
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>>9484215
>15° sharpener
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>>9484278
this

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