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Storytime of Pain: America

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Estan listos para leer la mejor historieta de Marvel, amigxs?
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>>94038108
What does America mean to you, /co/?
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>>94038108
that's way too much spanish for this book

only one word should randomly be in spanish
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>>94038143
>Sis from another miss
Miles, I never cared for you before, but Christ that makes me wish upon you the fate of The Sword.
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>>94038153
Freedom, the 2nd amendment, independence, and not this comic.
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>>94038218
No te gusta mi historieta, anon?
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>>94038108
>America
FUCK YEAH!
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>>94038153

She makes me mildly ashamed of belonging to the "latin american" group, even if I live thousands of km away in South America, and shouldnt feel bad for the creations of a Nuyorican.

I also think it is a perfect storm. A comic that is to TUMBLR what Tails gets Trolled is to Deviant Arts, but, completely unironic, and financed by a mega corporation.
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>>94038108
You sick twisted bastard....
At least this book DESERVES a SoP.
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>>94038248
I enjoy it the same way I enjoy getting a tooth drilled: it's great when it's over.
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>>94038153
Well meaning but run by idiots.
Not this comic though, this is just awful.
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>>94038143
Wait, so they included a page in this character's comic with other characters saying how great she is? Literally just panels of them complimenting her?
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>>94038108
>amigxs
I get your intent, but Rivera always opts for "mi gentle" in these situations like a true fake Rican.
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>>94038451
Where have you been?
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>>94038451
Isn't xe great!
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>>94038153
Peaceful place in a little town in the center of the states.
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>>94038451
At least Carol is weirded out by her fans and thinks they don't know shit.
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>>94038451
Yes, because they didn't or couldn't show that she's a good superhero and person. So they're telling you.
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>>94038108
>hispanic character
>constantly awkwardly name drops spanish words
>never actually uses any fucking popular Spanish phrases, just lazily google translates from english

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
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>>94038493
/tv/, /sp/, and /s/, mostly. I'm not really a comic book guy, I just came here because I figured there would be threads about cartoons.
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the saddest thing about this great comic is there's never a point where people ask "Where's Americx?" because she's always on screen
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>>94038534
The strangest part is that the writers all seem to be latinos, they should know better
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>>94038574
Please anon this is a safe space, use the proper Latinx, ok?
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>>94038547
>referencing young avengers
Well fuck you too Marvel.
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>>94038574
Might be 3rd generation. They use their latino heritage to make up for the lack of a proper personality.
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>>94038430
Sorry to post a pic during a storytime, but is that brown woman in the center suppose to be Sonia Sotomayor? Because I don't remember her ever being THAT dark...
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>>94038628
>latinx

No real latino uses that shit. Latinx is the invention of bored chicanas from upper class california suburbs who don't even speak spanish.
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>>94038688
No problem anon and yes it is her, because why not.
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>>94038578
>what the holy menstruation!
I'm not sure what bothers me more. The idea that somebody wrote this and thought it was funny, or the idea that somebody wrote this and thought it was EMPOWERING.
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>>94038430
Was this drawn by a black dominican who has never seen any other kind of latino? Fuck's sake.
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Will be right back with the second issue, don't go away!
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>>94038740
What the fuck was Hitler doing in the middle of a battlefield?
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>>94038790
Moral support.
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>>94038740

>Chico, you look mad familiar

Jesus Christ, she's written like some kind of chola parody.

Look, I'm a white dude in the American South, so maybe I just don't get it, but I really want to know how this isn't offensive to the majority of actual Hispanic people
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Issue 2 guest starring Moon Girl!
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Which artist is worse? The one for this arc or the guy from the latest issue?
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>>94038869
What is it with these people and adding Moon Girl into everything?
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>>94038864
>but I really want to know how this isn't offensive to the majority of actual Hispanic people

Most of us aren't Mexican, so that helps.
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>>94038272
No, dumbass, white is not the absence of color. Black is.
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>>94038771
After all the times we've read this book together, /co/, how did we not pick up on the fact that (spoiler if you give a shit) her younger self is seen wearing her future self's outfit in these sketches right here in the first issue?
>>94038864
>I really want to know how this isn't offensive to the majority of actual Hispanic people.
You should have been here for the first time these books were storytimed, tons of Hispanics (or people claiming to be) were triggered that this is how they were represented in comics.
>>94038871
Guy from the latest issue for sure.
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>>94038548
Well you came at the appropriate weekend since this is the story time of Pain weekend where we storytime or link the worst cartoons and storytime the worst comics.
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>>94038930
Because she is the smartest and blackest character in the Marvel universe (Bendis says otherwise) so they want them SJW points.
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>>94038153
Literally everything wrong with marvel distilled to perfection and put into a single comic.
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>>94038864
I can't speak for everyone but for me personally, I just don't care. Not to mention as stupid and horribly written it is it's not like it's trying to be racist.

Beside's if Hispanics got angry every time Puerto Rican's embarrassed themselves, they would've been systematically slaughtered years ago.
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>>94038953
Both are. Additive/subtractive colors.
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>>94038108
pero chupame la pija querés?
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>>94039044
but...do you want to suck me...something?

Now to see if I came close!
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>>94039035
Can you imagine a world without Puerto Ricans?
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>>94038740
>>94038988

Jesus Christ America in the last issue you did know it was Hitler. Why did you ask again?
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>>94038988
>"Punching Nazis is neato." - Peggy Carter
Correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure no one in the 1940s talked like that.
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>>94039035
>Not to mention as stupid and horribly written it is it's not like it's trying to be racist.

SJWs never consider that an excuse. If anything that makes it worse.
Meanwhile, non-SJWs don't complain, so no one cares.
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>>94039077
Welp, the short answer is no.
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>>94038864

it seems the writer is a Nuyorican who speaks broken Spanish.
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>>94038988
I just have so many questions

>why is Hitler on a battlefield?
>Why does the character need to say "that was Hitler" and "this is WWII" when it's already been said?
>Why is the main character so annoying?
>Why is the political commentary so incredibly hamfisted?
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>>94039149
>Why is the political commentary so incredibly hamfisted?
It was written by an SJW who has no experience writing or reading a comic book.
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>>94039106
"Neato" was apparently coined by Stephen Longstreet in the 50s, but hey it sounds old so good enough.
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This is worse than the Unfunnies.

Wow.
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>>94039149
>why is Hitler on a battlefield?
eh.

>Why does the character need to say "that was Hitler" and "this is WWII" when it's already been said?
Technically, she's from an alternate universe and moved to 616 as a teenager so it's sort of new to her. Technically.

>Why is the main character so annoying?
Read the relaunched The Ultimates. She is better there and the writer even takes a swipe at this book's personification of her.

>Why is the political commentary so incredibly hamfisted?
...anon, back in the 1990s there was a thing called "participation trophies" and making sure everyone felt special. It was a good idea at the time. It was fine. And over time, that got to kids. It warped them. And also the idea of performance art that a suburban audience could glom onto to feel "closer" to the urban neighborhoods. Add Ingredient X and you get the author.
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>>94039229
>A protected space between dimensions.
So it's some sorta "safe space"?
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>>94039390

>why can't I vote

Because you're 9 years old and have no experience you stupid shit.
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>>94038108
Hispanic Lesbian represents "America"
Good Goy Guys
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>>94039416
Dr. Doom himself couldn't give a better supervillain speech.
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Idk how to spell "bump" in porto rican.
El-bumpo?
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>>94038953
White is absence of dye colors, black is the absence of light colors.
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>>94038375
The best part about this relationship drama is that America is pretty much the bad guy in a Lifetime movie.
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>>94038108
Is this comic suppose to be bad on purpose?
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>>94039416
>Playing nice is "bad"
I could understand the "sometimes following rules isn't the best way to go" idea as some laws and rules are flawed and should be challenged, but that one line changed this from a speech that promotes protest to downright sociopathy.

It's really amazing how just a couple of words could utterly warp an artists intention to something much more darker and flawed. I guess it just shows how terrible these writers are.
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>>94039559
>>94039527
Has it ever been confirmed Leeluu whatever have powers? Or they just dress like Cyndi Lauper and that is their power
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>>94039416
>spoiled brat talks about how great she is and how much everyone around her sucks
>yo that's dope man
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>>94039590
Unfortunately no.
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>>94038143

Based Black Cat.
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>>94038143
>>94039645
I have never met a latino who punctuates english sentences with "mi gente" repeatedly unless they literally forgot the english words. It's like this character is trying to remind you that she's latina every time she talks.
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>>94038143
Who goes to a diner and orders JUST bacon??
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>>94039077
>Suck my dick, won't you?
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What really gets me is that there's not even any flow to this comic. Everyone is so fucking wooden. It's like a bunch of scenes sort of stapled together into some horrifying franken-abomination.
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>>94038248
>Lesbian has lesbian mothers
And there was me thinking the progressives wanted to be rid of the idea that kids adopt their parent's sexuality
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>>94039748
Loki, but he ordered all the bacon so no else gets some.
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>>94039416
I don't know about you guys but doesn't this sound a lot like a super villain speech?
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>>94039416

Every time I see Moon Girl posted here it's like reading someone's supervillain origin.

Like really, it feels like Moon Girl, Riri, and America are all villains being written as heroes, and not in a good way like Hank Pym.
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The worst thing to happen to the X-Men since Bendis.
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>>94039768
She comes from a universe with only females so every on is a lesiban. Said universe was made by Wiccan who is gay.
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>>94039871
The more I hear about this comic the more it seems like a parody.
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>>94039869
>"Cyclops was not not right"
Beautiful
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>>94039869

>that pink haired girl sexually assaulting Colossus

RAPE
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>>94039871

>Universe of only empowered woman was created by a guy.
>America, a girl from that universe where men do not exist and neither does Latin America, bases her entire identity on being Latin American and opposing the "Patriarchy".
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>>94040051
Why is the Brazilian flag there?

She doesn't speak any Portuguese, from what I've read.
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>>94039042
I think in this case white wouldn't be the absence of color since it's white light.
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>>94039761
I also got "but you can choose whose dick to suck" from Google.
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>>94039972
When it comes to amigxs, no means si.
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How well did this sell?
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>>94040353
Like shit, both in print and digitally.
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>>94040391
That's comforting.
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>>94040391
Forgot to post the page.
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>>94038353
>LGBT flag behind them
For fuck's sake! This is campy enough when it's an american flag.
>oreo
okay, that's a little funny

>>94039871
Wait, fucking seriously?
There are NO males?
Then the whole thing about "strong independent woman" falls apart
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>>94038143
I absolutely hate when writters try to show how cool a new character is by showing other characters saying how cool the new guy is
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>>94039871
You know that seems unintentionally ironic. I mean she comes from a literal homonormative society, so there's really not much rebellion or bravery in her being lesbian. Which by the way don't those "respect your ancestry" and "be proud of being an outcast" themes clash in literally any context other than this?
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>>94038456
did i miss something? whats with the fifth element refrences? are they a sorority or a fanclub? were they in something else I should know? why are they harassing random passerby with shitty poetry and dance?
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>>94038174
>not knowing spanish

How fucking racist do you have to be to not know the most widely spoken language in the US right now?
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>>94038578
>holy menstruation

what? this cant be a comic for sale to the general public, it just can't. thats like iron man casually saying "great gushing ejaculations"
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>>94039325
>overprivledged
reeeeeeee you're literally going to the same college as them when you live in a fucking van
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Sooooooooo...what's the point of America again?
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>>94040620
I thought the most widely spoken language was English.
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>>94040753
>no mas

i cringe, for anyone who truly is bilingual and has to see this stereotype.
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>>94038456
>leelumultipass

Holy shit, I heard this in a video and thought it was a joke. Please tell me they canceled this.
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>>94039871
>She comes from a universe with only females so every on is a lesiban

Do you think they would mind some experimenting?
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>>94040838
No such luck, anon.
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>>94040592
The lack of self-awareness is one of the many reasons this shit comic is perfect as a Storytime of Pain
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>>94040815
umm... diversity and the representation of marginalized minorities like Women and PoC
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>>94040836
that face, thanks for the nightmores
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>>94038299
What potential
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So...how many issues until Marvel gives up on this?
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>>94038740
>gay latin american impostor improbably kills hitler on random battlefield during freak time travel accident

you need drugs to be able to write this badly.

also, who the fuck doesnt recognize captain fucking america?

for that matter, how would hitler have escaped being within punching range of cap?

are we supposed to believe that captain america gates hitler less than america chavez? that shes somehow more american?
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>>94040831
When you factor in people who speak it as a second language, yes. Hindi and Mandarin beat it clean in terms of native speakers. Spanish too if you count every dialect as a single language.
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>>94040901
And what does that have to do with crime fighting and beating the villain of the week? I remember Batman because of his eternal struggle against the Joker and such, no one will remember America because of being a mouthpiece for the writters
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>>94040966
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http://uk.ign.com/articles/2017/03/01/america-1-review

>If there were any doubts that Miss America truly needed her own comic, America #1 should put them to rest. This new series features an engaging take on the adventurous America Chavez, one that emphasizes goofy humor and grounded character drama over superheroics. Anyone who enjoys The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl or Hawkeye will feel right at home here.
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>>94040921
Is the first trade out? If that flops then no way they keep going. Two more issues to go guys, the pain is almost over.
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>>94039229
that woman in the cloak...it looks like Hillary
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>>94038143
It's hard to put into words how much this feels like shitty fanfiction

>so her name is America and she dresses up in flag colors because she's America
>she comes from a universe where there are no men and her strong lesbian mothers raised her to fight the patriarchy even though, again men don't exist in that universe
>everyone thinks she's super cool look at these panels with other characters saying how cool she is
>and she's a lesbian too
>she's proud of her hispanic heritage so she throws in random spanish words into her english sentences

If you asked a bunch of white non-hispanic middle school girls from tumblr to make their ideal superhero, this is basically the result
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>>94041036
I legit wanna have my book club read the trade.
It's basically comicbook The Room.
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>>94040966
He's saying that English is the most widely spoken language in the US, not necessarily the world...
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>>94041019
>The site that gives 8/20's so often, it basically created the idea that a video-game that has a 7/10 is really shit
>Being surprised they gave something shitty a good store
What an absolute shock anon. Next thing you'll tell me the sky is blue.
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>>94040092
Fair point.
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>>94041147
The disconnect between people who read these things and people who review them is staggering
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>>94038143

This is how you make the readers hate your character.
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>>94039009

This is almost physically painful to read.
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>>94039390
you heard it here folks, only the smartest people should vote.
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>>94039009
This has to be the worst comic of all time just because of this page
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>>94039416
this could only be validated by luna murdering her folks and declaring herself over-gender-neutral of new york.
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>>94038153
BILL BILL BILL BILL
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soy latino y este comic me hace darme cuenta de que no solo se necesita un muro, se necesita alguien que le dispare a cualquiera que se acerque al muro, vea el muro o pregunte sobre el muro.
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>>94039009
>viva peru
I now hate her a little more.
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>>94041550
This was made by the Puerto Ricans my man. What we really need is an ocean barrier and denounce their citizenship.
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>so many storytimes of actually good comics sink right to the bottom of the catalog before they've even completed

>every single time a new America issue is published it gets SEVERAL storytimes, all of which hit the bump limit within hours
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>Be Mexican
>Want an original latin american superhero
>The best Marvel can come up with is this Michelle Rodriguez/Lisa Simpson/ Scrappy doo hybrid thundercunt.
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>>94041722
Sorry to disappoint you anon, but you have to give the people what they want.
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>>94039506
>"Ancestral Knowledge"
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>>94040520
this is the 80s. your telling me storm is canonically invested enough in the bondage scene to know about safewords at this time?

drawfags, assemble!
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>>94038153
I don't know.

Living to an ideal but failing at it. Not being able to do it doesn't make it not worth trying.
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>>94039838
>like Moon Girl, Riri, and America are all villains being written as heroes
I'm sorry anon, but you know too much
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>>94040921
Issue #8 was in the latest solicitations, so Marvel still has hope for it.
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>>94041971
I mean, that seems completely in character.

>>94041722
It's SoP weekend my man.
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>>94041722
maybe you just don't know what a "good comic" is
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>>94039009
>Becky Goodhair

Ok now that's actually racist.
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>>94041907
Let me get this straight, because America went back in time to the first issue and stopped the creature during the first battle, she didn't fight it in the future/present, thus not having the idea to go back in time to when she first fought it? Is that right?
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>>94038375
She breaks up with her girlfriend cause she wouldn't move her entire life to wherever the hell Sotomayor U is (do they ever tell us where exactly that college is?)

The chick WHO CAN MAKE PORTALS TO GO WHEREVER SHE WANTS breaks up with her gf cause she couldn't handle a long distance relationship.

It's the stupid shit like this that elevates this comic from bad to stain-on-society.

Bonus points for dragging Bayard Rustin into this dumpster fire. The man deserves better than this. Hell, Hitler deserves better than this.
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>>94041722
>>so many storytimes of actually good comics sink right to the bottom of the catalog before they've even completed
Are you sure about that?
How can they hit the bottom if the storytime is still going?
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>>94041550
>dispare a cualquiera que se acerque al muro, vea el muro o pregunte sobre el muro


kek
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>>94042276
Because no one/not enough people bump the thread. OPs can't bump their own threads anymore.
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>>94042069
>>94042186
>>94042218
>>94042266
>>94042296
>"What's that? You want to help me become a better superhero? Fuck you, you old hag! You don't know me even though you have the exact same powers as me! I'm out!"
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>>94041550
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>>94042274
>The chick WHO CAN MAKE PORTALS TO GO WHEREVER SHE WANTS breaks up with her gf cause she couldn't handle a long distance relationship.

Like I said, America is the bad guy in a Lifetime movie.
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Issue 5 is coming right up. Got to do something, so it will be around 10 minutes. Hang in tight anons.
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Are these all actual pages? Is the art really this fucking bad!?
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>>94038299
>I follow back, promise!
T-that's a lie!
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>>94039800
Moon-Girl is honestly a couple missteps away from ending up as a super-villain even ignoring how horrible this comic is. Over in Secret Warriors, she's being taught the art of murder and torture by Karnak. In her own comic, she's built an army of Moon-bots and letting a Doombot which she's re-programmed to be loyal to her be the leader of them.
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>>94042331
That's why storytimers should make the thread on their phone, that way it's considered a different IP and their posts keep them bumped.
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>>94041019
At least most of the commenters are hip to IGN's bullshit.
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>>94042274
>Sotomayor U is (do they ever tell us where exactly that college is?)

literally another dimension >>94040112

anyway, the real reason they break up is because she's white and the author has some kind of neurosis about it.
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>>94042428
Joe Quinones normally does a pretty good job when he's penciler, Inker, and colorist. But it's the other people working on this who have no idea what the fuck they're doing.
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>>94042533
Instead of using those bricks to break windows, howabout we use them against Gabby?
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>>94041105
>she comes from a universe where there are no men
Wrong, there are men, they all just fucked off somewhere else because they were all GAY men.
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>>94042533
>gay white people cant have pride
>pride is violence
>law and order are anti pride

how the fuck have progressives become equally if not more racist than conservatives?
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>>94042593
>they all just fucked off somewhere else because they were all GAY men
Reminder that America's universe was created by Wiccan, who is literally a gay man, after he becomes a god. It stands to reason that he raptured all the men up to Heaven, meaning that all the women are just God's left-overs.
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>>94042593
demiurge, a gay man, literally creating an entire dimension of gays.

so much for tolerance or equality. Gays can only be happy in gaytopia
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Issue 5 guest starring the real Hawkeye
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>>94042656
Just as there's horrible extremist conservatives with toxic opinions, there's also horrible extremist liberals with toxic opinions. This is one of them. Racism exists in many forms and on all sides of the political spectrum.
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>>94042716
>Real Hawkeye

I guess Clint finally got that sex change.
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>>94042533
>pride isn't for sale

As a bisexual black man I have to disagree with this. The amount of cunts who go up in arms about how commercialised and "disassociated" pride parades and the like are they need money too. That glitter won't clean itself off the streets. Those bands aren't going to play for free. I'm not saying that people should relinquish their integrity for a quick buck but that's not what people complain about. They whinge about how "things aren't the same anymore" well no shit you twats. Things have gotten a lot better than they used to be.
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>>94042802
im a straight white guy, so maybe my opinion isnt all that relevant, but your completely correct.

used to be being homosexual was asking for your life to be fucked over, or ended.
nowadays noone fucking cares.
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>>94038864
Latino here, I know plenty of people like this, it's not offensive. What's offensive is the bad writing meant to be empowering. It fails however because it wallows in mediocrity, poor pacing, and panel sequencing that isn't logical. It's got BvS Syndrome, it's a bunch of scenes rather than a story, thus it fails at being an empowering narrative and instead becomes about ego stroking.
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>>94039390
>>94039416
The funny thing is that she's gradually matured in her own comic, but she's basically reverted to her first issue-self every time she's featured elsewhere.
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>>94041105
>she's proud of her hispanic heritage so she throws in random spanish words into her english sentences
She acknowledges the fact that she has no Hispanic heritage. She seemingly first learns Spanish thanks to some spics she met when she first arrived on Earth. And yet her mothers are shown in a later flashback inexplicably speaking Spanish. Classic lack of Marvel editorial.
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>>94042897
A whole lot of people still do care, but things are better and seem to be continually getting better. At the same time pride and LGBT stuff is often commercial as fuck and none of these companies give a fuck about you.
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>>94042593
What? So Utopia is segregated?
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>>94038547
What the hell is prodigy doing? seriously, why is he floating and giving the history of a character we know nothing about. I know that's the objective, but.....why!

also, ancestral knowledge. This has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. WHAT EVEN IS THAT!?
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>>94042937
thats always puzzled me, a lot of LGB... characters seem to be blatant pandering for cash grabs. why do people put up with it? im not black, but that doesnt mean I cant empathize with a character who is. why is sexual/gender preference a different story?
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This comic feels like it was made by a white girl pretending to be Mexican.

Am I wrong?
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>>94042428
>Is the art really this fucking bad!?
The art gets even worse in the most recent issue.
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>>94040426
>>94040480
>Literally using Storm as a Magical Negro
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>>94042897
See I feel like you're in the right mindset but you're not being tactful about your opinion. Loads of people still give a massive shit about your sexuality. China just fucking banned all queer material in the media some few months back.

To say that no one cares is a gross overstatement that is perpetuated by very sheltered western views on the world. I'm not saying that people in the states don't have one of the most progressive societies on the planet but they also still have massive issue with things like queer people and abortions. Shit that most people like me don't see a reason to get vex over.

With that being said, my original point was that some people feel way too passionate about shit that has come along way. Hedge your bets and start focusing on something that currently gets less representation or (in my opinion) wrongful representation. Shit like this America comic that people think is the hottest shit since sliced bread. Just because she's a queer Latina woman doesn't mean she's great. Shit she was great, or good depending on who you ask, was YA or Ultimates. Her solo comic is offensively bad. Legitimately offensive.
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>>94038578
>what the holy menstruation!

Yes, I see, and I can't believe it, we found the worst line to be utter in the existence of Marvel Comics.
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>>94040620

You completely missed the point!

Anon was joking about Gabby spicing her writing with random spanish words because she actually doesn't know how to read/write spanish, she just pretends she does.
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>>94043090
>hating on Villalobos
This comic is absolutely horrible, but Villalobos is way better than the phoned in Quinones art from the first arc.
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>>94038578
i still wonder
how anyone can think something like menstruation can even dare be holy

i mean every single one of my friends and i hate it and sometimes even wish it never happened

its all empowering and yass queen until you're irregular and then it all comes down wanting to kill you and feeling like your uterus fell off and you will bleed to death
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>>94038108
Este comic Es una mierda, and this comes from a Latino with a lesbian sister, not even her likes this crap.
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>>94043134
it WAS the worst line

until *that* page that's going to be posted in a few minutes
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>>94042937
Yes companies don't give a shit about queer people. The same way a lot of politicians don't until it's convenient or "okay" for them to but frankly they say you should stick the demons you know.

The labour party for example wasn't too keen on homosexuals some few years back but now Corbyn amongst others are making a pointed effort to show they do care. I genuinely believe that Corbyn, especially as a politician cares for the rights of all people. On the otherside someone like Clinton just did it when she realised what bed she had made for herself. Either way I reckon she'd have done more for the community than Trump has. But I really don't want to get into all that.

This comic is shite and reading it again it boggles my mind what exact pages people look at and say, this is a good comic.
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>>94043151
Fucking please. Look at this face in panel 3 >>94043049

Look at it.
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>>94038864
my latina cousin like it and thought it was a good gift
she is also liberal as fuck, so i dont blame her for liking this
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>>94038740
There is so much wrong with that last panel. Those poses are what the teach you NOT to do in just about any "How to draw comics" Book I've ever seen. It's not nearly exaggerated enough, so it looks like America didn't punch that hard and that Hitler just got a light tap. I assume that the star background is suppose to be the visual impact, but it does nothing to make that weak ass punch look any stronger.

>>94040942
> are we supposed to believe that captain America gates hitler less than America Chavez? that she's somehow more American?

It's a glory stealing scene, thats all it is.

Also, does anyone else think that Hitler looks like Nick Spencer and has the "Nazi Hair."
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>>94038769
A white, privileged NYorican who desperately wants to be black. She's also the kind of cunt who quotes herself on her twitter.
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>>94042242
Time paradoxes are already hard to avoid for good writers, let alone Rivera.
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>>94038108
>>94038456
>>94038740
>>94039362
>>94039390
>>94039416

I'm reminded of a teacher I had in middle school who would issue a "bad writing contest" assignment each year. In practice it became something of a trolling exercise because simply having grammar/spelling errors wasn't enough; we had to make the essay, story, or whatever appear to be a genuinely incoherent work of idiocy rather than the work of a prankster.

This comic probably would've placed 3rd.
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>>94043349
>so i dont blame her for liking this
You should. This book is not just bad because it's liberal. It's also bad because it's poorly constructed, poorly plotted, poorly paced, and lazy.

Look at how Kate jumps out of the back of a speeding car here >>94043412

And in the very next page, she's back in the car again. >>94043450
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>>94043290
Nigger I'm not even that anon but if you're shitting on Ramon Villalobos you are a confirmed pleb. Some anon asked if he was the Mexican equivalent of Frank Quitely in another thread and 1) that's fucking true 2) that means the bitch can draw.
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>>94043507
This page kills me every time. I am fucking HOWLING.
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>>94043482
as another anon pointed out, the artwork here has some pretty cool onomatopoeia worked into the explosion, but they still put a stupidly redundant "kaboom" on top.
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>>94043474
I'm curious now: which comics do think would come in second and first?
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>>94043507
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>>94043539
They didn't even notice. The writer just isn't writing for comics at all.
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>>94043507
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>>94043510
>Some anon asked
Woooow some anon asked that? Truly this art is next level, then.
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>>94043507
Every fucking time.
Christ.
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>>94040051
>no mexican flag
estamos salvados
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>>94043507

Who the fuck is she talking to?
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>>94043507
I don't know what everyone is going on about, this is a pretty funny joke.

This has to be a joke r-right?
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>>94043579
He was making a shitty Simpsons joke (Senor Spielbergo) but it's actually a good description.
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>>94043507
The extra dumb thing is you can just have Kate looking wistfully and not have any words and the page is better.
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>>94038143
what is this?

a boy or girl

WHAT IS THIS?
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>>94043562
Marville would almost certainly be first.
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>>94038192
>Travis Lanham - Letterer

Now, with the amazing amount of latin king graffiti I see in my neighborhood there's no way they couldn't have also found a chicano comic letterer.
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>>94038949
to be fair, neither is Gabby Rivera, she's apparently NYorican. I cannot confirm, as I don't know where she was born.
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>>94043663
compare >>94043663 with >>94043433
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>>94043663

Wait... Is that a Gabby Rivera self-insert?
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>>94043663
That's Gabby Rivera self-inserting herself on page one.
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>>94039581
and since she is dealing with a LIGHT based monster, I think it's safe to say that she is still fucking wrong.
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>>94043663
a self-insertion for ego stroking.
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And that's it for now. Check out other SoP, I will try to do One More Day, or Avenger Disassembled tonight.
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>>94043792
Day 1:
>>94011836 (Cross-thread) (Marville)
>>94015371 (Cross-thread) (Trouble)
>>94013505 (Cross-thread) (The Unfunnies)
>>94017323 (Cross-thread) (Nemesis)
>>94014562 (Cross-thread) (Joker's Daughter)
>>94017305 (Cross-thread) (Amazons Attack)
>>94015704 (Cross-thread) (Change)
>>94024786 (Cross-thread) (The Surface)
>>94017795 (Cross-thread) (Earth-2: World's End)
>>94016653 (Cross-thread) (Countdown pt. 1)
>>94021468 (Cross-thread) (Countdown pt. 2)
>>94026850 (Cross-thread) (Countdown pt. 3)

Day 2:
>>94036625 (Cross-thread) (Avengers #200)
>>94036764 (Cross-thread) (Nightwing: Brothers in Blood)
>>94037347 (Cross-thread) (Liberality for All)
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>>94043835
>no girls
???
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>>94043507
>impressed by motorcycle chases and michael bay explosions

Kate, honey, you're a friggin superhero. When's the last time you went through a day without sometime like this happening?
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>>94043867
I'm sure there's plenty of material to last us the 4 days
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>>94043134
>>94043210
You rang?
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>>94043835
Why are you doing this? As a former fan of the Ultimates Universe, I suggest Ultimates 3 or Ultimatum if you want more shite.
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>>94043867
>Trouble
>Amazons Attack
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>>94041722
Hate brings people together, we don't all like the same things but we can all shit on terrible things together.
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>>94043433
She looks white as shit.
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>>94044010
No he meant the story called Girls.
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>>94043996
>Why are you doing this?
It happens every year m8.
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>>94044010
the story anon
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>>94043994
I know a few lesbians, and its not motorcycles and rockets.

made funnier because the love interest betrays her mere seconds later.

so maybe someone can help me out since I dont typically read marvel comics. I just dropped in to suffer expecting that I could glean enough info from context clues to figure things out.

unfortunately they have everyone talking like a retard and I have no idea who half these people are. so, what the fuck is going on? and how can america punch star shaped holes through spacetime?
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>>94038176
I like the costume, but what the fuck's going on with the background characters?
Was their school celebrating salmon shirt day?
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>>94041768
There are other Latin american heroes in marvel, it's just that they're wallpaper or can on fodder for other heroes stories.
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>>94043664
I agree. Most shit in the Weekend of Pain is bad for a few specific reasons that stay consistent through their entire run. Marville is constantly finding new and creative ways to be awful. The issue where it just becomes script laid across images can only be called genius.
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>>94043507
This phrase gets repeated a lot when it comes to this comic but I'll say it again, a human sat down to write this. They looked at it and thought this is normal, this is how people talk. And Marvel published this. That being said I genuinely await the next issue to see how Rivera can top this shit stew.
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>>94043792
Do you plan on doing Bomb Girl?
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>>94038248
Fuck, I laughed at how fucking sappy this is.
I'm more upset Monica isn't calling her out on her melidramatic bullshit.
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>>94038864
What about it is exactly offensive?

It is badly written and an attempt by a woman who is clearly not all that in touch with her own culture to write someone who is.
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>>94038869
>>94039009
What is it with women and their weird adoration for Beyonce?
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>>94043474
That was more a compliment to my classmates' ability to write retarded shit rather than implying I've seen worse comics. Case in point one of the winning entries for one year read like someone removed words at random from a killer's manifesto and ad-libbed it with a grocery list. If we're talking comics only, Chavez would jump to 1st easily because it's the only comic I've seen that so readily loses the thread of its own story. Care to recommend something that can top it?

>>94043663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPblZa10_Pk
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>>94044334
fuck I meant to reply to >>94043562
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>>94038353
No one talks like this.
>>94038375
I've watched less over-the-top telenovelas--
Wait. That's it. Maybe it's supposed to read like a shitty soap opera.
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>>94044316

To me personally, it's not offensive at all. It's just shitty writing and an unlikable character.

I thought that, to Hispanics or maybe to the more "SJW" types, having a character who peppers every other sentence with Spanish words and (apparently grammatically incorrect) phrases would read, on some level like a bad parody. A caricature, if you will.

It'd be like the Falcon suddenly spouting ebonics or something.
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>>94038153
The comic or the country? Comic's just such a precious crash to behold. It's fascinating in how numbingly bad it is.
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>>94042533
This bitch does know that she's white, right? Being Latino doesn't automatically turn you into a brown person.
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>>94041685
I think she means Vic Vaporub anon
It hurts just as much
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>>94044488
Not really. It just comes off as them trying too hard.
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>>94038430
>The Department of Radical Women & Intergalactic Indigenous Peoples

This seems to be the only academic building on this campus. You'd think that a University named after a Supreme Court Justice would at least have a law school or something, but I suppose that would get in the way of all the other buildings that seem to exist just to have happy gay brown women be happy and gay all day long.
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>>94044653
Law and order are anti-aircraft anon
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>>94038430
There's not even a law school...
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>>94038864
I mean, offended is a strong word.
It's definitely stupid, cringy, and borderline illegible, but they're not saying we should be lynched or some shit.
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>>94038864
Okay here's the thing I know people who will unironically say shit like that.

It's not what she says so much as what she isn't saying.

You know the phrase music is the silence between the notes? Same thing here.

She's using the words but doesn't have the actual attitude or I guess swagger.
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>>94043507
This is pretty good.
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Does Riviera actually expect the audience to not instantly understand the mystery woman is future America, or is the intention to make America's character appear dense as hell?
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>>94043706
>>94043710
>>94043728
>>94043756
god is dead we killed him with this comic
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>>94038930
She's not an Avenger. Casuals don't know about her so won't bother picking her uo and investigating. THAT at least, is pretty standard in comics if you want to get the character some attention.
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>>94044771
> but they're not saying we should be lynched or some shit.
People give the word "offensive" too much weight these days.

A bad odor is offensive. A really bright neon pink dress is offensive. If it attacks the senses and causes distress, it can be considered offensive. It's not just mean words and xenophobic propaganda.
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>>94041685
They were referencing Vick's Vaporub.
But with an accent.
Despite not having a heavy accent and not talking to someone hisoanic that would get that reference.
Which is far cringier.
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>>94042346
That fucking Reeves trace over still makes me upset.
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>>94039315
This comic's already pretty terrible. You don't need to reach with what's a pretty generic comic trope.
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>>94043510
But Frank Quietly is terrible too.

Maybe on some gritty war book or something but on a character driven comic his art is bad. The a character acting is bad. The composition is bad.
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>>94045304
>But Frank Quietly is terrible too.
lol get endlessly fucked
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>>94038988
How was Hitler able to get away while unconscious, and being slowly dragged away by two nazi soldiers?
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I don't care about her or this comic but she's thicc, so where's the porn of her getting the big white cock
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>>94038153
Better netflix, shit politics, hotdogs
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>>94038108
Sí, mi capitán!
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>>94039390
she's defending segregating the right to vote.
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>>94045389
Look, the writer wanted her pet character to punch Hitler and she was damned if logic or good storytelling was going to get in the way of it.
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Who's ready for more power creep?

>>94045415
Tumblr.

>>94045357
Ok. I mean If you like pudgey melting people I guess that's your thing.
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>>94039441
I mean, just as much as a straight white guy does.
America's made up of different people, what she is isn't what makes her a shitty character.
Quit being pedantic.
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>>94045531
link me some famala
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>>94045564
You could find it just as fast as I could and I don't want to find it, I just saw it while looking through the tag for a laugh.
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>>94044249
Won't it have to be on /aco/?
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>>94043450
I don't think the author knows what a cyborg is
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>>94044959
I mean, even then it's more like that uncle that tries to be cool and use popular slang.
Sure, on some level it's a misguided generalization of what he thinks we are, but mostly you're just embarassed for him and trying to keep him away from the sangria.
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>>94045531
>Ok. I mean If you like pudgey melting people I guess that's your thing.
I am severely triggered by you calling Quitely's art uncharacterful and badly composed, yes.
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>>94040357
>beyond the multiverse
I really hate how casually, and most certainly unintentionally, Rivera just goes and puts America into the same tier as the Beyonders. Breaking free of the multiverse is such a serious power level destroying move it almost killed everyone on the team in Ultimates, they could barley do it with multiple planet busters and super geniuses working together.
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>>94045232
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>>94041550
Soy Mexicano, espero que el muro haga que este comic no pase para aca
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>endless refrains of America
>this horribly token sotomayor U
>relationship problems
awful
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>>94043648
literally NOBODY says Mi Gente

I'd Accept Mi Raza, but not Mi Gente
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>>94041450
>i'm pretty much indestructible
Later, this same writer lets America get stabbed with a common syringe.

Bravo.
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>>94046163
They do in the NYC society.
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>>94045753
Funny enough, that was my first thought, too. Did't even care about what was happening.
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>>94038534
What are some popular spanish phrases?
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>>94046271
Chingate puto.
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>>94046271
>phrases

We speak the fucking language, do americans have phrases?

>>94046256
Fuck those rich latinx pride bitches, I dunno about Other latin american countries but, Mexicans do not give 2 shits about "representation" and "stereotypes"
>Have a black friend
>Call him Negro
>Asian Friend
>Call him Chino
>Slightly blonde friend
>Güero

We give 0 shits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ah1yCd_IJo

Sketch comedy like this was aired as recent as 5 years ago or something
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>>94046410
So what. We're not talking about mexicans. Go sell more drugs.
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>>94043134
[bunch of misogynist filth]
[unsolicited opinions on Israel?]
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>>94038578
honestly, the composition sucks too. She's talking to them and the scene randomly flips to them skipping and looking happy while she says gross?
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>>94046410
>call black people your language's word for "black"
Look out, we have a nation of badasses over there!
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>>94043510
>that means the bitch can draw.
Fucking lol. He thinks this is good. Are you the artist?
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>>94046581
It's not my fault basketball americans get offended by every word that's black
>Call them Black, they mad
>Call them Negro, they mad

I always found the word Kokujin funny

>>94046473
you want some?
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>>94046643
I'm pretty sure most American blacks are fine being called "black", no matter how mad the NAACP and all sorts of activists get about it.
Hell some even *prefer* "negro".
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>>94038578
>mfw someone walks up to me and says "What the holy menstruation!"
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>>94046410
You call them Black and Chinese.

You do realize negro isn't the bad word for black in Spanish right?
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>>94043507
is Chris-Chan ghostwritting?
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>>94039470
>"Pick someone who challenges you"
>picks the girl sitting right next to her who agrees with everything she says
Gets me everytime.
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>>94040283
>reducing Storm's mohawk years to "punk fashion's huge right now"
I thought she liked Storm.
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>>94040682
>Watching Buffy
>Wearing those shit headphones
Gosh, it's like the artist didn't give two shits about making the art make any damn sense
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>>94039166
Crybaby bitch, YOU WERE THE ONE WHO FUCKED UP THE RELATIONSHIP.
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>>94040283
>mention pussy
>america drops everything
Fucking christ this girl is thirsty.
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>>94039288
> Read the relaunched The Ultimates. She is better there and the writer even takes a swipe at this book's personification of her.

Can I get an example of this?
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>>94039768
That's only goes for their parents. When they adopt a kid of their own, the fully expect that child to be gay.
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>>94040283
Surprised the effect didn't say SLA-AYYYYY
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>>94038740
Can anyone name all the flaws with this one page
>Hitler randomly on the battlefield
>She comes from a universe where she would have no concept of Hitler to be outraged. He didn't exist for her.

Those two come to mind quickly
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>>94040778
These kids aren't even going to college. And for all we know, America's getting a free ride, probably for being America if this comic is any indication.
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>>94040836
there is a girl with a virtual boy on the face

>>94043507
>>94043578

I have the theory the artists realize this is dogshit, and are deliberatedly trying to contribute towards a so bad it's good goal as the best possible result.
Like they are at least trying to have fun with this
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>>94040084
Do you really expect Rivera, who doesn't even speak Spanish herself, to know or understand the history of the wonderful brown people she idolizes? After all, that takes work and the more time she spends on her job, the less she has to worrying that she might like opera.
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Do South American countries even like each other or is it like Asia where they all hate each other some reason or other?
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>>94045079

Not to mention Vic Vaporub would be the last thing you would want to put on a burn.
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>>94040838
Remember: they're cancelling Gwen Poole because they think it's drawing attention away from quality comics like these
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>>94045304

I remember the special class from New XMen looking pretty great, and the composition of the action scenes in which Cyclops and crew persecute and stop a Glob Herman on fire running towards a gas station was alsopretty good.
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>>94048088

The people I've met from South American countries seem to have a dislike for the ones that aren't theirs. But the most prevailing thing is that they all seem to hate Mexico.

I went out with an Ecuadorian chick for a time, and I asked her about this once. "Mexicans are like the niggers of hispanics" is what she said.
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>>94045304

>The a character acting is bad. The composition is bad.

have you ever seen anyone so wrong
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>>94048088

It is not like South east Asia in that we all recognize we are "brothers" in some way, except for Brazil which would be a cousin.
Also, it is a huge territory, people from Argentina never interact with people from Central America.

I live in Argentina and for me the neighbourhood ends in Peru, as in, everybody here has seen many Chileans, Peruvians, Paraguayans, Bolivians, Uruguayans, Brazilians (as immigrants or tourists). But from Ecuador to the north, the countries get exotic, so basically only people who went for vacations to Cancun know Mexicans, only people who went to Aruba know Venezuelans, and like that.
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>>94043663

Honestly, I can't even be mad at Gabby Rivera. She's a racist who knows she got a job at Marvel because of her race and nothing to do with her published work that isn't complaining on Autostraddle. If white guilt/fascination pays the bills, why slow it down?
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>>94040793
>>94040836
The girl with the green hair and Cyclops visor is jumping out of the ship in the second page despite already being on the ground in the first.
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>>94042241
Probably intentional. People like her are well aware that what they say is racist and they relish that while hiding behind the flimsy excuse of "it's not racist when we do it to you because reasons."
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I literally have no problem with a comic about a queer latina woman, women like that exist irl, I don't care if she has two moms. Hell, I also don't care if she comes from an all woman society- my bigggest problem with this is the horrific writing/pacing, completely unlikeable characterizations and ridiculous overarching plot.
1. Give your hero a better reason to identify with Latin america that just "oh they look like me", she couldve identified with so many ethnicities based on this (i.e middle eastern, south asian, south east asian, pacific islanders, the list goes on) if it was about having brown skin. It makes the character feel absurdly shallow to suddenly adapt to using spanish like an accessory. If you're going to use Latin american culture in your comic and for your character and have it be such a big part of them they you should elaborate on it in a way that adds to the characters depth and existence.
2. An all woman society like the amazons made sense because it served a purpose in connection to a mythos, the society in which America lives doesn't have that kind of purpose. It was just created by a gay wicca right? thats not enough information to interest anyone.
3. The fact that she's AMERICA themed. If this comic were to go all the way campy on purpose then it would probably be fun. the issue is it's not campy on purpose, its campy because the writing is awful and it feels disingenuous. it's not bad that the mc is queer or brown or has gay moms or gay friends, its not bad that shes against nazis. its the fact that every other sentence is "the patriarchy" and "brown fist" (this would work in a purposefully campy approach) and all of a sudden she can't be with her gf because she doesn't feel like travelling even though she can basically teleport. it's the fact that her dialogue is all over the place and adds fuck all to her depth in this adaption and makes me dislike everything about her. She's being written so cheesily, so hamfisted it's hilarious.
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>>94047973
>there is a girl with a virtual boy on the face

It's a viewfinder. It's still fucking retarded.
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>>94039097
>your jokes are great
what jokes?
WHAT JOKES?
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>>94048366
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>>94048366
I literally am fine with heros against sexism and racism/general bigotry. most heros ar. but who the fuck needs to write the patriarchy every fucking panel
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>>94048494
Hi it's the anon who wrote all that, I'm literally intrigued and in awe of both of them. This is what it's like to date other women, and I applaud all the women dating women right now because this is incredible. Motorcycle courtship chase? check. Missiles and explosions? yup.
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>>94038574
They are gringos cosplaying as chicanos LARPing as latinos.
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>>94048366
Well, they hired someone whose known for this shit. Of course the book was going to be full of it. Gabby herself has stated she doesn't really know shit about her own roots, let alone the entire continent's.

She was either Marvel's first choice or last choice. At any rate, I doubt any meaningful time was spent dwelling on the decision to hire her, and she probably has free reign to write whatever nonsense she wants, barring any obvious continuity errors.
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>>94043081
Nope, you 100% correct.
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>>94039097

>Did we tell you she's amazing yet
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>>94038108
>amigxs
This will never not piss me off.
Fuck me.
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>>94048616
man, its just sad that money and time was spent creating something so convoluted but at the same time its incredible, and this is what it's like to date other women, and I applaud all the women dating women right now
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>>94045531
>more villains

What, can't she pray to a singer to save her from them?
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>>94048092
Wait, that's the actual reason that's being given?
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>>94048802
noo i loved gwenpoole it was fun and cute
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>>94048092
I hope you're joking but I get the feeling you're not.
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>>94043650
But then we wouldn't know what to think when we see two women dating.
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>>94040719

So like, why not just ask for help?
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>>94044568
She must be self conscious about it and is desperate to prove that she really is brown.
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>>94039035
>>94039091
>>94041688

Don't you mean Puelto Licans ?
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>>94043650
The writer does that a lot though. She doesn't know how to write for comics so she has the characters explain things the art should depict. Like the fact that the mysterious "heart" is the restaurant sign. We can SEE that we don't need it to be explained like a novel.
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>>94038688
'cause if she's not dark how would you know she's a strong POC
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>>94045531
>no nonsense
>is friends with the leelumultipass gang of losers

Fuck off Rivera.
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>>94043650
>>94049316

who do we blame for putting the KABOOM sfx over the explosion that said BOOM
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>>94049383
Not sure. If the writer put Kaboom in the script but the artist decided to add stuff into the art it's a lack of communication.

Because the in art SFX didn't exist before this artist I assume it's his thing. >>94043096 It's also in the smoke on this page. If people hadn't pointed it out I wouldn't have noticed it so the letterer could have been cruising through so fast he didn't see it either.
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>>94048245
Interesting.
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>>94038108
latino here

te odio
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>>94048435
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Il_asp-0lq4
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>>94047973
>I have the theory the artists realize this is dogshit, and are deliberatedly trying to contribute towards a so bad it's good goal as the best possible result.
That's bullshit but i believe it
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>>94048616
> Gabby herself has stated she doesn't really know shit about her own roots, let alone the entire continent's

Proof?
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>>94043133
>massive issue with things like queer people and abortions
>hey let's kill unborn children
>Did I just said children? I've meant fetuses silly.
>After all It's MY body and it's MY choice, I'm not going to keep some intruder that wouldn't even happen if I hadn't had sex with Johnny without protection like pills or condoms.

I wonder what's their problem.
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>>94040283
>santa juanga
if she's refering to juan gabriel, she just called him a she...
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>>94045531
>Introducing [...] Exterminatrix

>Marvel
>editors
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>>94049987

Exterminatrix is a Morrison/JG Jones creation from like 2000
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>>94043009
Somehow knowledge is pasted down to you through your DNA. Look into it, some of the craziest shit in the world stems from this idiotic mindset.
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>>94049987
But how can she fit more of her BDSM fetish into the comic if she has to use an old character?
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>>94050043
That just makes the "introducing" worse

Also
>2000 Marvel
>editors
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>>94050139
>>94050043

Nevermind about the new character, but still she has a BDSM fetish or wants to pretend she does.
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>>94050155

it's clearly introducing her to the series. it's like classic solicit writing.

why do people make up shit to bitch about
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>>94050197
I don't usually read solicits and I wasn't reading American comics in 2000. I probably stopped in 1998 and only picked back up since coming to /co/.
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>>94043133
Just because you don't see a reason to get vexed over something does not mean there is not a valid reason to be vexed by that thing. This isn't in regard to queer people for me personally, but in regard to Abortions, I find those most vexing. That is because it is my belief that life begins at conception. Now we can argue about that all day, but you can't just handwave my argument away as invalid.
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>>94046256
no we dont
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>>94046782
I prefer the term "colored."
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>>94048616
>Gabby herself has stated she doesn't really know shit about her own roots, let alone the entire continent's.

it's pretty telling when you notice that an elite interdimensional university is named after...an american supreme court justice. if the university has to be named after a hispanic woman then whatever, but was that the best she could come up with? are there no more important hispanic women in latin america's colourful history than some american judge appointed to the supreme court a few years ago?
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>>94039941
I mean... America was kinda a parody at first. It was written by Gillen and it was about Wiccan using his powers pretty irresponsibly and causing a fuck load of problems. America was one of the few who wanted to fix them.
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>>94043507
This is it. We found it.
Stop digging lads, this is the single worst page in the entire history of comic books.
Take a step back and bask in the unholy miracle that it was published, and the depths to which Marvel has sank.
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>>94043510
Anon, anyone can draw. It's just that after viewing this issue, I believe Ramon Villalobos is more the mexican equivalent of Rob Liefeld.
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>>94040609
Because the writer is trying to prove she's nerdy but feminist so she's referencing Fifth Element and Princess Leia

It's the same reason the Captain Marvel run constantly made references to Star Wars
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>>94044329
Beyoncé is normie musical taste given physical form.
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>>94043650
if the art had bothered to give her a face in that panel, yeah.
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>>94050952
It's a shounen show.

Nothing special and on closer examination most of its themes fall apart.
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>>94044329
she's The Rock for girls, but without the sense of humor.
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>>94050409
You have to realize anon, that people like this... for all their talk of how much they love diversity and different cultures and languages... they know nothing about them. Almost literally nothing and everything that they do know is filtered through the lens of their own biases. Like complaining that an Egyptian actor is too 'light' to play an Egyptian character, or Honey Lemon can't be Hispanic because she's also light. Everything they know about diversity is literally skin-deep and shallow. Look up famous hispanic women, maybe a scientist that would be worthy of being the inspiration for multidisciplinary interdimensioanl school? Pff, just grab a famous hispanic woman from a ten-second google search of your own country and darken her up. That's all you need.
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>>94038153
Supporting the Zionist oppressors who occupied my ancestors land
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>>94044159
That's her superpower. They tried explaining it earlier but they do a bad job at it. Basically, Wiccan (son of Scarlet Witch) was having an existential crisis and was struggling to come to terms with his homosexuality and god-like powers. He accidentally makes a paradise dimension filled with only homosexual women. called the Utopian Dimension, which is where Miss America comes from, at the same time as creating/brainwashing his Kree boyfriend named Hukling. America comes to the regular dimension out of frustration of utopia (which they kinda retcon here) and because her parents died. She mainly watches Wiccan and makes sure Loki doesn't do anything stupid in her first appearance. She supposed to be a dick, really curt and not interested in people. Blah blah blah America stays in our dimension and she hangs out with the big leagues travelling dimensions and fixing problems multi-dimensional problems, hence why she's sometimes called "The Paramedic of the Multiverse".
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>>94045531

Man, TBA Artist is getting a shit ton of work at Marvel lately.
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>>94043507
This feels like a mix of Chris Chan autism and illuminated comics mocking.
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>>94038456
>dragging The Fifth Element into this shithead
YOU BASTARDS
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>>94044219
>And Marvel published this

The comic is at 12K as of last month.

They don't care.

They don't give a single fuck about this, it's not like it's going to lose that much more. What more can be done? People caught on, they stopped buying it, it's not getting better. It's never going to get better.

They know it's downhill from here, might as well ride that loss and post some pictures to make themselves seem progressive.
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>>94043507
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>>94039603
I think they're funk dancing for self-defence
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>>94038272
Wow...that doesn't come across as racist at allllllll.
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>>94038108
latino aca,
los gringos han hecho cantidades de mierda asi que ya es hora que los latinos pongan su granito de arena en SOP
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>>94040620
Ask the writer of this book
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>>94040682
>Spend several pages on how America can't just punch her way through things
>Do a "training sequence" on it
>Next page has her literally threatening to punch things
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>>94042042
I like how they had to tell us she was ignoring texts and calls instead of showing us. Also instead of showing us why the relationship is bad they're just telling us it is.
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>>94052590
Nada superara a Bolivar el Heroe como la peor /co/ related cosa que ha salido de latinoamerica

https://youtu.be/51fyzTYIVws
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>>94038108
>Utopian Parallel
>Sotomayor University
>cucking Captain Fascist Steve Rogers
>America is a hostile invader
>America is abrasive and moody

I swear to god, writer Gabby Rivera is trolling American culture and society

I dig it.
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>>94038953
Thank you. I swear no one takes physics anymore.

White is when all colors of the spectrum are visible.

Black is the absence of any color being reflected back.

Green plants reflect the green light and absorb all the other colors.

The color of something is determined by what color is being reflected back.
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>>94042346
>comparing this to sandman
ron you motherfucker
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>>94043507
>have a night job at a warehouse
>haven't talked to anyone in almost 3 months other than yes sir, no sir and reading box numbers
>wonder if I would even be able to understand how normal people talk after all this time
>the deep unease tells me at least I retain some semblance of social graces
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>>94053915
So black people are absorbing all the colors.

How do we stop them?
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>>94039390
Life is a series of arbitrary actions and reactions. We only assign meaning to things around us because the human race is mentally retarded.

Shut the Fuck up, Luna.
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>>94054057
Abstract meaning is how humans were able to get by as far as we did. An animal sees a rock and it sees a rock, it can be a toy if they are advanced enough but for the most part it's a rock. Understanding that it is made of composite materials and how to separate and use said materials while also passing the same concepts and ideas without having to physically be there is uniquely human why we aren't at war with a similarly advanced dolphin or raven species.
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>>94047890
>Hitler gets knocked the fuck out two feet away from Captain fucking America and isn't captured
>America Chavez didn't punch hard enough to kill Hitler and preemptively end WWII in the first place, despite displaying no qualms about blowing up a few Wermacht grunts two pages earlier.

IIRC it became a sort of in-joke during WWII to always add "Kill Hitler" when going over mission objectives, not to mention the fact that everyone but the staunchest /pol/tards hate him. There's no reason why his head shouldn't be a pulpy splatter right then and there, and that's what irritates me most about this shit. Like millions of fucking soldiers died for the chance to kill Hitler and they're throwing it aside for "LOL PUNCH NAZIS", even going so far as to just have Cap stand nervously off to the side.

Also
>Includes Hitler, but can't do anything remotely funny with him
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>>94053992
Maybe he meant ECW's Sandman
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>>94054025
Black skin actually offers the best natural protection from the sun's UV radiation.

The darker the skin the better the protection from sunlight.
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>>94054235
Yeah, if you are standing at an equatorial shithole with no clothes and wandering around all day.
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>>94048366
>Give your hero a better reason to identify with Latin america that just "oh they look like me"

Isn't this what they call cultural appropriation?
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>>94039559
Holy fuck what the hells going on in that fight scene? I can't make heads or tails of what they are doing.
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>>94054177
So tell me, has mythopoetic thinking been a boon or detriment to human progression?

Because I don't see how committing genocide and murder in the name of religion, an applied abstract concept, is viewed as a sign of superior intelligence or progress.
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>>94039279
And it's going to be at least twice as long. At least.
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>>94054353
For the most part it's been a boon if you're talking about raw numbers dominating the planet.
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>>94054261
skin color is merely a genetic mutation that is dependent entirely upon DNA and environmental surroundings.

There is no biological explanation for racism. It's all cultural.
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>>94054435
Skin color is based around specific sets of mutations that have been favored due to natural selection back when it still mattered and the mutations carry over to things like heritable IQ and behavioral traits that would explain why certain races are generally looked down upon.
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>>94054410
I'm still on the fence, myself, but I appreciate your perspective and views. Thanks.

It was nice chatting, but I need to fix some dinner.

Thanks again for the (you)s.
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>>94054526
True. It's a combination of both nature and genetics. Anyway, g2g. It was fun.
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>>94038153
World Police.
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>>94053180
jajajajaja puta madre
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>>94052590
>>94053180
>>94054713
Someone should put this shit into Rabbit or watch together, and make the first animated storytime of pain.
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>>94054227
nah m8 he mentions Gaiman by name
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>>94054758
that would be great, not sure if it's been english subtitled though
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>>94053180
This was made by CULOmbia. they have all the credit
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>>94053180
Bolivar's Bizarre Adventure
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>>94040901
And some people say /co/mblr isn't real.
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>>94054286
well the point I was making was, "oh they look like me" could be used for so many different parts of the world where brown skin and dark features are common, so there has to be a special connection between the character, who's not from earth, to a specific place on earth.
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>>94038153
World's best hope... or it's demise.
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