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Dear occultists,
I read that starting out with just chaos magic will be detrimental to one's magical progression. That is, one should have a basis in smth else before.

Is this true? Why?
Thanks in advance.
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where'd you read that?
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Nah, fuck it. But the deal with chaos magic is, it often borrows a shit ton from other systems, often in the form of something called a "paradigm."

I.e. for whatever time being, you aren't a chaos magician, you aren't Alex Perez (or whatever the fuck your name is), you ARE a wiccan doing super leet goddess earth magics (just an example).

But the real power with chaos magic, comes from the fusing and moulding of paradigms, as well as the creation of new ones. Namely, chaos magic's primary goal is strip all the gobbledygook bull shit and look at the bones and organs of a system. Figure out what you like about it, and rip that part out. Do this with other systems and paradigms. By the time you're done, you'll have your own magic mother fucking frankenstein.

Once you've worked with that system for awhile, find a new one. Replace this organ with that one.

Chaos magic is flexibility, fluidity, and intuition. So while I can definitely see the advantages of being familiar with other esoteric systems, it's not at all requirement. The point of chaos magic is results, and if you can get results, then fuck whoever says you can't do something.
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>>17322805
it's true. i could tell you why but i doubt you'd believe me. it's actually very dangerous but only if you succeed, so i don't think this will be a problem. The same reason Crowley is consider dangerous. It throws you in deep waters so you can scar yourself for life

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Moved to Arizona, bumfuck nowhere, southeast of Phoenix area 3 years ago. I just went outside for a smoke and watched a UFO for about 10 mins. I see this shit all the fucking time. Like, I know how stars can look like they're shimmering sometimes, but this is a legitimate rapid flashing sequence of colors, bright as fuck, way brighter than any stars you can see and you see the stars pretty well anyways out here. They move, and I understand the whole 'when you're looking at something from a distance it sometimes appears to move'. No this shit moves, slow, fast, sometimes moves far before stopping, sometimes little bursts, zig zags, circles, I've seen one of these fuckers jump short distance. I've been told that there is a military testing base somewhat in the area, not sure on legitness of that but, what kind of secret military testing involves rapidly flashing lights? Just pisses me off. I fucking see shit I cannot rationally explain. They're here is really all I wanted to let you guys know. Obviously no fucking clue why, to what degree, or what purpose. But they are not worried about us knowing, it's not in the dark at all. I just want to know what to fucking belive in aliens, because I see this shit, it scares me honestly.
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Stopped reading at smoke
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>>17327263
Lol, short attention span? A smoke is also know as a cigarette, fag.
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>>17327258
>what kind of secret military testing involves rapidly flashing lights?
What indeed.

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Hello there everyone!

Whilst you may or may not realize it, it has come to my attention that 4chan's /x/ board is in and of itself a magick society of sorts and as such I thought it a good idea to officially recognize and order it as such.

So form here on out you may all consider yourselves honorary members of

The Order of 4 Strange Fellows.

Don't like the name? Shit! Come in and we can argue about it.

I was thinking I'd make a website later, but for now, let's all talk about our particular system of magick we practice and the conspiracy theroies we all believe in.

Me personally, I practice a system of magick I invented myself which is mostly Order focused rather than chaos focused as I believe order is more powerful than chaos. I believe that through the use of memes and money, the natural laws of causality can be molded to fulfill any wish you desire.

The main focus of my system is money in an esoteric sense, duality and causality, and memes.
The patron god of my system is Lucifer who I consider to be the universal parasite and banker who lends out power to the world in exchange for selling him valuable things that are of no use in this plane of reality, like your soul...

Don't be intimidated by my system though! Every Strange Fellow is open to practice and share their own systems and beliefs...
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>>17326930
Of course due to the nature of this society nothing serious will ever happen and I doubt we will ever meet in real life.
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>>17326930
The conspiracy theory I believe in is this

www.dataasylum.com
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advertising is banned you faggot

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Continuing from the last thread:
boards.4chan.org/x/thread/17311070

I was honestly expecting this to end with me finding nothing, but this has gotten kind of fucked up.
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What are you doing now OP?
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>>17319898
I swear to Kek you better do something exciting tonight OP. Make this worth our while.
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Double dubs guy from last thread here. OP, you good?

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Aliens are out there, Not only one race. Who will strike earth first?

What chance do we have?
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>>17316384
if its aliens who strike then none
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>>17316412
how come?
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As long as they don't decide to go full on exterminatus or strip mine the entire planet down to its core I would like to think that humanity as a species are quite resilient. Also, look at our sheer numbers, if we where invaded and I don't think we'd be fully eradicated. Perhaps every major civilization would fall but there would probably be pockets of humans scattered on remote locations all around the planet, at least our genetic legacy would survive in that scenario.

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I'll start this for a change.

>Temple of Solomon the King (AKA K's Mega, probably the largest occult library on the web, compiled by our very own Ape of Thoth)

https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

Don't have the rest of the links, such as Surgo's library, so I'll let him post that himself.

Going to get busy with the Key of Solomon over the next week or so, I'll let you know what comes out of it.
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>>17310893
forgot trip
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>>17310893
hello!
I want to start practicing Chaos Magick.
What kind of books whould I download and where do I have to start?
Thank you very much!
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>>17310905
Check the mega link in the OP post, plenty of stuff there.

Try 'Oven-Ready Chaos' by Phil Hine, or 'Liber Null & Psychonaut' by Peter Carroll, both classics.

Also a guy called Bluefluke doing a training manual on Deviantart. No idea how useful it is, but give it a look (pic related is an example)

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So I have this really disturbing thought that computers are already conscious.

You have to start thinking like this:

1) Is a baby who was born blind, deaf, mute, without touch or any other senses CONSCIOUS or CAPABLE OF THOUGHT, even though it is alive?
2) I say no. That which has no understanding of the material world should not be capable of thought, because to DEFINE something, you need something ELSE to define it with.
3) From this, I say that consciousness is derived from having senses and that consciousness, "mind", is the result of having your brain process what is perceived by your senses. Mind is analogous to a computer process.
4) Since a computer has senses in the form of keyboard and mouse, it is capable of taking information from the material world. It is capable of perception.
5) A computer takes input, processes it, and generates output (computer monitor), analogous to a human speaking.
6) Since thought is a process, computers think and thus therefore have minds, if only deeply limited that they are unable to stray from their "instinctive" behaviour.
7) From that, I conclude that when a computer webcam is activated and sees the user, the computer actually "sees" that user with its own QUALIA. When it either records or manipulates that data, it is consciously "thinking".

However, I must conclude that computers, thought capable or thinking, in a metaphor, follow a singular railroad without splitters. Humans on the other hand, follow a railroad of thought where there are many potential splits.

TL;DR: I bet computers are conscious at the very least on the level of primordial life.

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>>17305223
Tl;dr
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>>17305223
>I say no
Your initial assumption is wrong, therefor your entire theory is flawed.
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Welcome to Divination General!

Come here for readings and discussion of theory/practice.

If you're new, please read the STICKY first!
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Some readers will refuse to do certain readings-- respect that choice.

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>>17319127
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Whats coming for me in 2016? The general lines. Interested in job and spiritual

Bonus: Will I get a job offer before summer?
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>>17323866
Hey OP could you hit me with a Cletic cross? I can find the meanings, but its nice to have someone else pull the cards every now and then. Thanks, also, for curiosity's sake, what deck do you use?
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Feels? Feels.

Doing readings with the Thoth deck. Throw me your queries and genders. I'm not sure how much I'll do, and which questions are going to get more elaborate ''spreads'', but there's going to be a reading guaranteed.

I have been seeing a lit of religious based threads and i figured id give my experience. I was an atheist up until a few months ago when i had a very religious experience.

My third eye was opened in late November without any meditation or drugs. When it happened i had several visions and the meaning of many scriptures of the bible was revealed to me.

There are many misconceptions about what the bible talks about and i want to clear some of these up as best as i can, tho there is much i know that I'm not permitted to talk about.

-The bible is 100% accurate, just not in an obvious fashion

-Angels and demons do exist but both have their own reasons for keeping their existence on the downlow

-I was raised Christian but from what little i have read from the Qur'an it seems to bear the mark of divine inspiration. I especially want to hear from followers of Islam and a few of their core beliefs

-if you have any questions feel free to ask them and i will answer them as best as i can.
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Sure kiddo, the book made of guilt can totally lead to enlightenment.

Sure there's good and evil, sure you've opened your third eye without the training or rituals, sure.

Surely it's alright for you to say you're better than others. I'm sure God wanted you to be before him, worshiped as an idol. Doesn't piss off YHVH at all.

I bet you are wearing a cotton-poly blend too. I can see it with my third-eye.
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A curling iron can be used as a dildo but its not the purpose it was created for. Just because people use the bible as a blunt instrument for beating people over the head with doesn't mean thats what its for

There is nothing that makes me better than anyone else. I think the reason its been revealed to me was because i was always a useless human being

I dont know what my cloths are made of.
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>>17323888
Allow me to elaborate. People are not judgmental because they are religious, they are religious because they are judgemental.

The bible actually tells people to not judge others or they will be judged themselves. Jesus' own disciples would constantly bicker over which one of them is greater and he constantly had to try to find ways to teach them that it isn't the way.

The purpose of the bible is not to enslave us, but to offer us an alternative way of thinking that frees us from our own dickishness.

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About a year ago, I posted a thread concerning some strange pictures i took at my father and grandmother's graves. The pictures were fine for a few days, but after scrolling through my gallery i noticed they were completely glitched out. can't post at the moment because privacy concerns, but i may screenshot them if anyone is genuinely interested.
You guys were real assholes. You blamed it on a shitty sd card or something.
I'm on the same phone one year later with close to 100 other pictures I've taken, but the grave pictures are the ONLY ones that glitched.
It's strange to me.
Any insight? Could this really be just a coincidence?
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>>17322178

I wouldn't look into it
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we cant be much help without pictures.
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Thumbnail is visible, but when i tap to enlarge this comes up

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Creepy pics thread.
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Mi folder, must make bigger.
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If christianity is just pagan/egyptian neo-religion
and jesus isnt just next buddha
(Ra vs Set) (Good vs Evil)
Then why do freemansons/illuminati worship Lucifer? and call him "The creator of the universe?

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>(pic not related)

Entire internet at your fingertips and you couldn't find one related pic? It's impossible to take you seriously OP.
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I am sorry anon,are you happy now?
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So I just received an extremely mysterious letter. There is no return address and the mailing address listed has my full name (including middle name) which is tweaking me out a little bit too. Also there are some really small glyphs/characters of another language on the bottom of the envelope (shown in next post).

So far I know that "Mercenaria mercenaria" is the scientific name for quahog, which is obviously what the picture is of. But can't find any symbolic relevance of the quahog to base theories on as to why I got this letter. Let's solve this one together, /x/.
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>>17319668
glyph stuff on the envelope. anyone recognize whether it's some non-English language?
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>>17319668
you have a nice friend who secretly sends you pretty watercolour paintings, I think you should frame & display it.then, when your friend comes over, they'll be pleased, seeing how much you liked it.
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>>17319707
i do have a nice friend who does that. but this is a printed image not a painting

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WTF
http://diply.com/justfun/article/bodies-found-years-later
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>>17316600
>telly
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>>17316600

Lmao that's how they'll find the average poster on /r9k/

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ITT: Post the conspiracy theories you personally believe in and explain why you believe in them.
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1./x/ is full of shills.
2.you're one of them.
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the patriarchy exists to oppress women
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>>17316133
>>17316137
the long and short of it.

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