Archived threads in /tg/ - Traditional Games - 3936. page

File: swarm of bait.png (146KB, 625x626px) Image search: [Google]

146KB, 625x626px

>>46261894

>>46261897
Um. Question.

Why?

>>46261907
Typos, improper grammar, no capitalization.

And seriously:
>Also. Mars. Why wasn't its leader turn into a trader?

File: braillenote_overview_2.jpg (58KB, 1170x382px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 1170x382px

>>46261817
PDFs and a refreshable braille display.

>>46261954
Never heard of this, thanks.

>>46261954
>>46262039
They expensive though.

File: HZDnFvy.png (900KB, 945x909px) Image search: [Google]

900KB, 945x909px

This is how I paladin

File: 8j1jq2.jpg (49KB, 512x512px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 512x512px

>>46261853
you sir have just won any and all paladin threads.

>>46261791
whats a paladin?

Sorry for the namefag forgot about that when i was writing about it.....anyway idea came from here.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWZ5qqN6pG0

>>46261089
Are you implying people can't enjoy their jobs?

>>46261163
Im implying that what happens when a adventurer realizes its a job, and over time it becomes a dull and boring job.

>>46260846
I don't know honestly.
Suddenly disappeared out of the blue one day. Is he having finals? Died? Just doesn't care anymore because it's been so long and he lost his vigor?

>>46260958
I don't know hope comes back

Best CIV in a long time IMO.

Have an NPC have a straight up conversation with them, and if they don't respond well enough have the NPC get offended.

Have a no cell phone rule

Talk to your players like adults and call them on their shit. If they don't want to partake with the roleplay hand them a calculator. Sure is a lot of number crunching they can do with that

>>46260946

The NPC thing could work, we don't have a no cellphone rule but nobody ever gets distracted.

Ultimately I could call them on their shit however I wanted to see if there were more "IC" options I could use before that

>>46261033
Make them roleplay be more creative make them talk, provide investigation, subtly force them to discuss to each other in char. Silently reward chars that roleplay such as providing a clue to an investigation or a hint when recapping the enemy when talking to each other...

File: doit.png (120KB, 223x311px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 223x311px

>>46260510

File: MUDNew 001 (Large).jpg (763KB, 2304x1728px) Image search: [Google]

763KB, 2304x1728px

not really

No, but you need to do something to interact.

If your deck sucks against combo, then you need to play basically 12-15 anti combo cards in your sideboard.

I came 3rd with this pile the other night: take note on how many anti-combo cards I have, tailored for my meta:


4 Cursed Scroll
4 Figure of Destiny
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Rakdos Cackler
1 Sulfuric Vortex
2 Eidolon of the Great Revel
3 Fireblast
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
3 Rift Bolt
4 Bloodstained Mire
7 Mountain
4 Rishadan Port
4 Wasteland
4 Wooded Foothills

SB: 3 Ensnaring Bridge
SB: 4 Leyline of the Void
SB: 3 Mindbreak Trap
SB: 2 Pyrostatic Pillar
SB: 3 Smash to Smithereens

Beat Miracles and ANT, lost to Elves (but he had it all so whatever)

>>46260498
>Those saying 'evil' say so because the amount of mindrape it would need to change their alignment is so strong that it erases all of what they are, effectively killing them.

those people are dumb. compare yourself to when youre stressed and tired and when youre rested. one day youre an asshole with zero patience and the next you go back to normal. did you die? did the good you die and become replaced by an evil you, which then died and was replaced by a good you? the answer is no because thats retarded. switching someones mind wouldnt involve any mindrape when it comes to values and morals. you ever get your mind changed about something? like lets say you believed that elves were good people until you were corrected and began believing that elves deserve to die and be raped. your morals changed there. your values changed. your opinion changed, but you were still you. point is, if a demon was changed to good, it would still be itself but it would follow a different set of rules. basically like a crazy person taking medication. of course theres the chance it feels so bad for its past crimes that it kills itself. that wouldnt be quite so good

>>46260498
Depends entirely on whether or not you run absolute alignment.
I never do, but I would argue that this method is still evil, since you have performed a forcible conversion via what can be stated as a form of mind-control.

>>46262079
But given what demons and devils are, why is that evil?

File: BeastArises.jpg (2MB, 958x6273px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 958x6273px

>>46260041

The rest of ‘The Last Wall’ is much less interesting and a lot stupider. Characters don’t think, or think in completely illogical ways. Never mind Imperial Guardsmen tempting fate in clichés, or Inquisitors pinning all their complex plans on random luck, and High Lords being willfully blind to the universe around them; no, the real stupidity is how everyone in the book says time and again how they can do nothing, nothing they do matters, and then regret how they didn’t do anything. Annandale uses the same rhetorical device time and again to dismiss character’s acting stupidly just so that the plot can advance to the story’s M. Night-style twist. It’s pathetic.

>Vangorich knew what it meant, though. He had told himself that he had nothing invested in Tull’s folly. He was wrong. He discovered that when he felt a vice crush something in his chest.

The story focuses on one event: the launching of the Proletarian Crusade. Stirred up by passionate rhetoric of saving Terra and serving the Emperor, millions of Terran citizens volunteer to join the thousands of impressed starships in the Sol system to invade the Ork attack moon. This moon hovers over Terra for about three weeks, doing nothing but staring down at the planet while High Lords (Vangorich and the Inquisitorial Representatives) try to assassinate rivals in the shadows of Terra and support the Crusade so that their political standing rises. It’s not really coherent; we have two new viewpoint characters who show off the fervor that sweeps the human population and the attitude of the ship captains forced to support the Crusade knowing they’re doomed to die, and they both just go with the flow and wind up being objects of amusements for the Orks. Who actually send ambassadors to the High Lords and demand their surrender. Before mocking them for being fucking stupid and arguing among themselves before peacing out.

File: Squig_10-08_01.jpg (38KB, 550x594px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 550x594px

>>46260065
Secondary plots include the traitorous Iron Warriors being invaded by both an Ork attack moon and a Black Templar Crusade, and Chapter Master Koorland of the Imperial Fists assembling a force of Successor chapters. And these plots eventually become one plot; the Fist’s mobilization is being held up by the Black Templars wasting their strength invading the Iron Warriors and the Iron Warriors decide they need to focus on one invasion, not two. They probably team up, unless the alliance spoiled by Black Library is one between the humans and the Eldar.

Annadale’s style doesn’t match well with the previous entries in the series. There’s a lot less dialogue, a lot more description and internal monologue. Few of the viewpoint characters spend much time interacting with others; the bulk of ‘The Last Wall’ is devoted to action scenes and introspection, and while not necessarily a bad thing it really slows down the pace of what should be a tense and tight suspense novel. The Orks are right over Terra, and yet the feeling of panic that the book describes never really comes through.

>They did not find strength in each other. They saw and heard and felt only their own fear reflected back at them a hundred thousand times. They shouted as if that might help them stay afloat in the wave of desperation. But they sank. And they drowned.

File: 12-03-beast4-ppbodyimage.jpg (45KB, 300x239px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 300x239px

>>46260095
In one area, Annandale has done better than previous entries in the series. His worldbuilding is better. You see some of how various High Lords maintain their power bases, such as the Speaker for the Chartist Captains maintaining an office where the wealth, culture, and delicacies of the Imperium are rotated through on a daily basis, never repeating, to impress just how important and powerful the merchant marine is.

And the exploration of Terra’s hives as the Inquisition and Assassinorum play cat and mouse with their lives finally creates an impression of this post-Heresy, pre-Vandire Imperial society where things aren’t totally fucked up, just slowly decaying. We finally understand what the book’s characters are fighting to save, as opposed to just being humans reacting to an alien invasion.

>"Don't need an interpreter," the lead ork said. "We tell you how to surrender, you surrender. Easy."

In a way, David Annandale accomplished something very powerful with ‘The Last Wall.’ But he also failed terribly. Finally, the costs of the invasion seem clear. Though I will admit that the chapters about Undine in ‘Predator, Prey’ are in a similar vein, they don’t quite match the tone and emotional weight of Annandale’s rendering of the terror of the civilians of Terra.

And yet Annandale drops the ball by diverting the story away from the actual invasion and the existential terror brought on by the attack moon to play around with the Iron Warriors and the Imperial Fists doing nothing, while kicking the book into action movie territory with the intrigue and fighting of the Inquisition. Imagine playing Majora’s Mask and every few hours you suddenly played Tingle’s Balloon Fight or Super Smash Bros. The shifts in tone and the uneven pacing just turn the book into a generic, undifferentiated mess.

File: IMAG0275.jpg (678KB, 1344x760px) Image search: [Google]

678KB, 1344x760px

Yes, there are about three DW players on /tg/ in total- me, one guy who said it was nice to see my models, and probably one other anon.

As for Fleet Action, yeah, I'm pretty interested. DW does take a little too long to play and has a few rules quirks I don't like (like boarding, which is a fucking mess). Since it's just a new rule set, and sounds as though it will be fairly similar to DW- DR, exploding dice, linking fire etc. and won't have its own line of models, it shouldn't trigger Spartan's ADHD too hard.

At the very least I will be keen to have a look. Whether I like it or not will depend on how much they streamline the rules.

File: DW EOBS Army.jpg (476KB, 1196x909px) Image search: [Google]

476KB, 1196x909px

>>46259451
I really like Dystopian Wars, I've got 3 fleets and 2 armies. However, a 1000 point game takes me about 4-5 hours to play and I get at least two rules completely wrong each game.

A fast play variant sounds appealing.

>>46259013
I'm unfamiliar with it and would be interested to know more.

File: FFRPG Third Edition Core Rulebook.pdf (1B, 486x500px)

1B, 486x500px

>>46259013
What a coincidence, I had this 2 year old pdf.

>>46259181
It was developed by a now-defunct group known as the Returners. I had it printed because it's hard to lock down a .pdf on. I do know there is one available if you're willing to delve into your search.

The ZODIAC Final Fantasy RPG is not only easier to find, but, from the opinions I've gathered, players seem to prefer it due to its more malleable class system.

>>46258856
Buy it, then sell it. Chaos is useless this edition and those units are mostly garbage. The only good Chaos Space Marine lists these days are KDK.

>>46258933
So they butchered the codex so bad the only way to go is using a different codex,Well fuck.

>>46259081

The only units worth keeping are the Obliterators, Bikes, and maybe the Terminators depending on their combi-weapon.

The Plague Marines and Rhinos are also okay but need lots of special weapons.

yeah, illusionist class is really something else, huh

>>46258613
Rogue wizards are a nightmare?

Well I wont really disagree with it

>>46257797
You're dirty slut. I like it.
Is it maximum stealth you can get? I would increase it by one or two points if possible, might be useful for your kind of job.

>>46257797
So like...
What the fuck are they trying to do here?
They can't really face, having multiple diplomacy skills is a must. They can't really do combat either, which might be fine if it's an investigation game. Stealth could be higher.

>>46256851
What, you give speeches? You fucking pussy.

Real men attack silently, with a precision drone strike.

I bet you don't even confirm the kills.

>>46256851
Ugh, murderhobos are the worst, no bloody respect or professionalism. Can't they just wait a few moments to indulge a dark overlord in a monologue on the nature of man, and the inevitably of their demise? Gods above, no respect.

>>46256851
>BAWW party interrupted 'muh speech

Maybe if you wrote better speeches and not some trite woe-is-me garbage, the heroes would actually stop and listen once in a while.