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What does /sci/ think of the recent update to the radial acceleration relation for spiral galaxies?

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1609.05917v1.pdf

Regardless of whether dark matter or MOND is correct, this result clearly indicates that there is a fundamental relation between the gravitational potential from the baryons and the predicted potential from galactic rotation curves. This implies that it is the BARYONS that dictate the potential of galaxies, not dark matter.
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I think it's been slightly oversold. We already know there is strong relation between baryonic matter and the dynamics of a galaxy, the Tully-Fisher relation that MOND is based on. That part isn't new, this new relation is possibly just an extension of that relationship. What really needs to be done (And what the authors should have done) is go to a large hydrodynamical cosmological simulation like Illustris or EAGLE and see if the same relationship holds. Before claiming CDM cannot possibly explain this why not actually see if it does. You may in fact find this relationship already exists in standard dark matter simulations.
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>>8370360
>mfw this post

I wish people would talk to me like this irl.
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>>8370360
Stacy's point is merely just the data. At the end of the day, all they did was assume Newton holds and used a M/L to trace the baryonic potential. so even if MOND or DM didn't exist, we would still find this relation in nature. that's why the theory wasn't fleshed out.
Stacy has made a lot of papers in the past showing how MOND works, but his point with this paper is just to show the data, nothing about theory. I know some people have begun trying to do hydro sims with MOND, but the problem is most people won't even consider it and think its a crackpot theory.

There was a thread about study music that I didn't get to finish reading and it left the archive.

So, study music thread?
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Tell me about chords and arpeggios, I'm trying to learn how to improvise. How exactly recognize chord progressions?
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I prefer to study to relaxing music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCM-hG5GjlY
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>>8370324
>learn how to improvise
bad news: you're not a musician
A musician just learn techniques and uses them accordingly to what he wants to express, you just dont "learn to improvise", even the term its a complete joke, trust me, stop wasting your time, you wasnt born a musician, now fuck off, leave and never come back, u nasty faggot.

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Is agriculture discussion allowed on this board? Or is that not a science.
Pic unrelated
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>>8370265
sure
go ahead
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>>8370281
Is Organic agriculture a meme? Are GMO's actually that bad?
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>>8370308
Yes

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What are you're best arguments against capitalism ? As an Economics major at UW-Madison, Mathematics and History simply back it up.
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capitalism killed my grandpa
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>>8370196
/thread
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because capitalism hurts my feelings and my lord and savior Obama says that it's bad

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Rookie at basic chemistry here, I'm currently trying to make thermite entirely from scratch. I'll be using aluminum powder and just regular iron oxide (not magnetite or anything like that, just good old rust).

I haven't made the aluminum powder yet but last night I did some research on how to make rust. Got some steel wool and I made two batches; one with just water and steel wool in a bowl and the other with bleach, vinegar, and steel wool.

Supposedly using bleach and vinegar with steel wool produces chlorine gas and I was unaware of this when doing it indoors. I had to air out my house and hide upstairs from the toxic fumes. I'd prefer not to use this method again since it's so fucking dangerous. Is there any way to speed up the reaction with just water?

Can someone help me figure out the equation for this reaction as well? Thank ya
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>>8370100
>Rookie at basic chemistry here, I'm currently trying to make thermite entirely from scratch.
this will end well I'm sure

any accelerated way of making rust is going to give off something
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Just go to a junkyard and ask them if you can take their rust. Fucking christ.
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>>8370100
Don't you need a pure magnesium strip as a catalyst to even set off the thermite reaction?

I'm sure that's harder to get than rust

>Gee anon, I wonder why we spend so much money to research space and stuff! After all, we don't even know most of the stuff going on in our own oceans! We should spend more money into that instead of space!

how do I counter this horrific argument
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>>8370091
who is the guy in pic related
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>If you want to go explore the ocean, feel free to go explore the ocean. Dump as much money as you want.
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>>8370091
The ocean is less interesting than space.

The correct position is that we should waste money on neither and instead fund programs that actually better society.

Leave space exploration to industry, the same way ocean exploration is mostly an oil industry effort. "Real scientists" exploring the ocean are just jacking off drawing maps, the same "Real scientists" explorign the space are just jacking off drawing space maps. Defund all those faggots.

If the oil industry found a sustainable way to explore the ocean by looking specifically for valuable resources then the same eventually will happen to space. Tesla is already an industry funded space exploration program and soon enough they will find a way to make it sustainable.

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>how do magnets work?
newfag
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>>8370067
magnet produces a magnetic field
mass produces gravitational field
you can't see it, but it's there

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Hey, what's up.

I'm looking to learn as much about AI as possible in the shortest amount of time possible.
I don't know much about programming, and I don't much care about the programming behind it, more about the logic. I want to understand what it would take to create AI, and how we imagine AI would behave and why.

Videos of lectures or talks are most welcome, actual texts are less favorable, but I won't complain about them.

Thank you in advance.
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>>8369848

>I don't know much about programming, and I don't much care about the programming behind it, more about the logic.

That makes no sense. How can you possibly understand anything about it without understanding how the programming works?
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>>8369854
aka OP wants some pop-sci book on AI so he can make authoritative posts r/futurology
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>>8369854
Intelligence is intelligence.
You don't need to understand programming to understand how a brain works.
Computer programming is just one of potentially infinite solutions to intelligence.
Intelligence is simply the capacity to solve problems. Intelligent systems do this by using algorithms. Algorithms aren't exclusive to programming, and you can understand algorithm without knowing how to code one in a programming language.

I'm glad we got that out of the way.

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why females can't compete against males?

is because they have lower IQ?
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>>8369708
Compete in what? Life?
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>>8369708
Compete in what? Sex?
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>>8369708
Compete in what? Dumb frogposting?

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neuroscience question

What is the rigorous scientific definition of a "thought"?

pls only scientific answers, no philosophy crap
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A sequence of action potentials that traverse neural networks activating the relevant neurotransmitters based on the emotional source of the thought.
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>>8369650
Philosophy is a science.
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>>8369761
KEK

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I have designed an experiment to test Newton's theory of gravity being caused by masses (see attached picture). If mass is really the source of gravity, then the massive object should follow the red trajectory. In my experience however nothing like this has ever been observed. Objects always seem to follow the green trajectory.

Thoughts?
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>>8369633
you'll never get a big enough fat guy for your post to be anything but a shitpost
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>>8369633
The fat guys mass in relation to earths mass is too small to make a difference in the trajectory of the falling object
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>>8369633
>Mass of earth [math] M_E = 6 \times 10^24 ~ kg [/math]
>Mass of fat guy [/math] M_g \approx 10^2 ~ kg [/math]

The Earth is about [math] 10^22 [/math] times more massive than a fat dude, it's not going to make a damn bit of difference.

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>there will always be someone better than you

Sure it's true for most people. Hell, it's true for everyone except one. That one person is me, Von Noyman!
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>>8369472
There will never be anyone better than me for a very narrow range of tasks. I know this for certain because practically nothing exists in the vein I want.

Therefore if I create it, there is no one better than me.
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>>8369473
nuh uh
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>>8369477
Yep. Rare neurological abnormality, history full of health problems, and a chronic pain deal that's ~1 per 200,000. Taken all together with how I've lived, I'm a fairly major outlier.

If I manage to finish it, I could kill myself or fizzle out and it'd be okay. It is very important.

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Do you fear the bubble of true vacuum?

Is there nothing we can do escape it? Create another universe ourselves before it happens and "jump in" perhaps?
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is it necessary
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>are you afraid of a theoretical construction based on an incomplete knowledge of physics
no
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>>8369419
Well, what if it's real? It might not be. But then what if it is? The universe has to end somehow.

Wouldn't it be great if we could stop that from happening?

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So really, what happens when an unstoppable force collides with an immovable object?
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i'll show you an unstoppable force

*unzips dick*
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>>8369364
It bounces
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>>8369364
>So really, what happens when an unstoppable force collides with an immovable object?

Nothing.

By definition, an unstoppable force encompasses all possible mass-energy in the entire universe, leaving nothing else outside it.

By definition, an immovable object also encompasses all possible mass-energy in the entire universe, leaving nothing else outside it.

There cannot be an immovable object and an unstoppable force in the same universe.

Ergo, they can never collide.

If you collide two universes?

Also easy.

"Fiat Lux"

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I think he is going to solve the Riemann Hypothesis


if he succeeds...can you imagine his legacy, Fermats Last Theorem and the Riemann Hypothesis he would go down as one of the greats

here is the interview

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtDiDTbXYAApdmI.jpg
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my body is ready
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>>8369344
not if Mochi gets there first. But desu, it would be almost unprecedented for someone to solve an open problem like that so late in life, and after solving another big open problem.
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>>8369352
just think of Wiles legacy if he solved it...both the FLT and RH

he would definitely go down as a top 10 mathematician of all time

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