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just finished this whole thing in 2 hours. it was ok. i thought you guys said it was challenging?
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you did not read 600 pages in two hours
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>>9803930
proof?
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Libraries are shit. A controversial opinion but undeniably true. I can't think of a bigger waste of our taxes.
How did Amazon become one of the largest companies in the world selling books when supposedly you can get books for free at the library?
The answer is simple: libraries have an awful selection of books. They stock thousands of terrible books by literally who tier authors and somehow don't bother with the classics. Walk into your average library and I'd be surprised if you can find even half of /lit/'s top 100 in stock, or a decent variety of philosophy, or must-read STEM texts, or anything else that actually matters.
So what the fuck is on all those shelves? Genre fiction. Shitty horror, sci-fi, and fantasy fills these buildings. And cookbooks. For some reason we need every country's dumb cuisine represented. Your average leftist argues that libraries are good because education of the public is important. Tell me exactly in which way reading this crap is preparing the next generation or educating anyone?
Second point: libraries are for bums -- homeless people go there to charge their phones and use the bathroom. With the price of books now so low, especially in second hand stores, only the homeless are poor enough to need libraries. Start an drug addiction help programme if you want to help them, don't give them a place to nod off when it's too hot outside.
Lastly, there used to be a good reason for libraries to exist. The law should be accessible to everyone, so a good place to store legal records and legislature was the library. But today with information being so easily accessible via the internet, why are we still printing and taking up with space with books? For octogenarians?
I hate libraries so Goddamn much.
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>>9803892
i live in the middle of a hick shithole and the local library has most of the western canon and they separate lit from genre fiction so I don't know where the fuck you're from but i can tell you're probably lying through your teeth.
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>>9803892
>libraries have an awful selection of books
Stopped reading
Use interlibrary loan, you cant pirate everything, and unless you live in the mountains of slovakia, you are going to have a university library on your network. I have Dartmouth and University of New Hampshire
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>>9803892
Libraries vary in quality, you must be going to some really terrible ones, the ones in my city and other cities I've been to are great.
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Southern gothic discussion thread
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Hey /lit/, I am writing Deep South drama/screenplay and I could really use some help. What should I pay attention to, what cliches should avoid and what should I read ( I read Faulkner and McCarthy)? How to properly use grotesque and magic realism?
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>>9803854
IMO the base of the Southern Gothic movement is significance and grotesque in the mundane.
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>>9803854
Be sure to include plenty of incest. Bro/sis preferably. And slave wench rape
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>>9803876
Can't see if ironic or not
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Where do I start with Jünger?
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>>9803840
Restrepo, think it's still on netflix and it goes hard
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Man and his symbols.
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Storm of Steel
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>buy ulysses
>footnotes on each page
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would you rather have handnotes hmmmmm????
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>>9803791
desu you probably need them
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>Be Irish
>Be able to speak culchie
>read Ulysses
>profit?
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I read Augustine's Confessions and loved it. I was staggered how relevant and familiar he seemed, for lack of a better way to put it (not that I think an ancient writer needs to appear 'relevant'). So I'm wondering how similar City of God is as a reading experience, but also how 'academic' it is, since I don't have the time atm for 900 odd pages of heavy philosophy.
But also are there any other similar writers, particularly Church fathers? On a side note I was also interested in getting into Augustine because of his influence on the middle ages. But I was disappointed to find Boethius just felt like Plato-lite.
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>>9803790
>But I was disappointed to find Boethius just felt like Plato-lite
Are you really trying to say that two writers using the same format feel the same? No way.
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>>9803904
I just expected it to seem more Christian 2bh.
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>>9803925
It is deeply Christian, just not overtly. He was writing more for the Neoplatonist than anything.
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Does anyone here enjoy a book with their coffee first thing in the morning?
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tired: waking up without a book
wired: waking up and perusing a chapter of the decline and fall of the roman empire while paying to heed to the fact that one dwells in absolute filth. plebs cannot in2 ultrawoke /lit/ degeneracy
>*patrician gouty arthritis intensifies*
inspired: absently dipping pages of gibbon into your all steamed-milk latte and eating them whilst gazing idly out the window at starbucks, a veritable monument to indifference to all manner of social expectations not directly inspired by the court of versailles, waiting for the clearly nervous assistant manager to ask one to leave, and turning upon him a jaundiced eye, as amused as it is bored
>being evicted from starbucks for being excessively refined: /lit/ achievements when
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>>9803837
"Their personal valour remained, but they no longer possessed that public courage which is nourished by the love of independence, the sense of national honour, the presence of danger, and the habit of command."
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if I'm feeling too depressed to read the news
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I like this board.
You guys aren't half as bad as they say.
and thinking things through is almost necessary, if you want your assertion to survive academic rigour. People can be a little stuck up, but I don't consider it a bad thing.
This is a breath of fresh air, compared to some of the other boards I used to frequent.
Also, I noticed you don't have tripfags. Thoughts/opinions as to why this is?
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>>9803743
this is a nice post. T-t-hanks anon-kun
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>>9803743
>Also, I noticed you don't have tripfags. Thoughts/opinions as to why this is?
In 2015 we all took a pledge to filter any tripfags
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>>9803743
>Also, I noticed you don't have tripfags. Thoughts/opinions as to why this is?
There's butterfly and the jimmy something something guy. Anyone else?
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Who is the most "red pilled" writer?
I think Samuel Benjamin Harris?
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Why do all the New Athiests besides Hitchens seem like pussies?
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>>9803656
Christopher had the fortune of having access to his brother's intellect.
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>>9803661
Truly the greatest brotherly feud since Jake and Logan Paul.
Are there any examples of apocalypse philosophy? I feel like the whole world is feeling the dread of society collapsing. Is there any literature that deals with this realistically?
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Read Svetlana Alexievich and W. G. Sebald.
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Wasted World by Rob Hengeveld; about resource depletion and environmental destruction, and some solutions. Scientific.
Several books by political philosopher John Gray: he argues against progress, as he sees human nature as incompatible with it. He is very /lit/ as he often refers to literature but hardly scientific.
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>>9803621
Nick Land.
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> Greek
> Roman
Pick one, Why?
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Greek; Odyssey.
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The Romans were huge plebs. They didn't manage a single interesting development in maths for a thousand years, and their main intellectual heritage is preserving and translating Greek works.
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>>9803634
Scientific history isn't continuous. It's full of geniuses who make landmark achievements, followed by decades or even centuries of less intelligent persons building on those achievements. Most Greek scientific achievements can be attributed to Archimedes.
If God is silent, why should we speak?
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It feels good and is useful
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>>9803586
ur mother
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>>9803575
ok let's write then.
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Yes, fine: I'm a pleb. There, I said it. What now, huh? Got any other gags up your sleeves? Got any other zoinkers hidden away? Oh, nothing? nothing? Didn't prepare you for this eventuality in cool school did they? Oh, no no, please, don't listen to me. I'm just another lowly pleb compared to you, I'm not worth anyone's tim—Sorry? What? Nothing to say? Nothing to say? Well. Well well well. Well well well well well. Seems you're outta moves, kid. Seems you're outta luck! Checkmate. Knockdown! Strike, your out!
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Tot the fuck with you and your plebian kind
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You're*
Eat shit, pleb.
Give examples of times you felt the movies outdid the books.
For example Cloud Atlas.
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>>9803500
Tarkovsky's 'Stalker'.
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>>9803500
2001 A Space Odyssey
Malcolm X
1984 (loved the book but John Hurt x Eurythmics makes me cum)
The Handmaiden (adapted from Fingersmith which is OK but Park Chan Wook is a master of his craft)
The Martian also made for a more enjoyable movie than it made for a book. Maybe not the best example but I'd rather rewatch the movie than re-read the book.
Kurosawa and Hitchcock's earlier adaptations were mostly based on pulpy novels that were cheap to get the rights to and those films are remembered more than the original source material is (i.e. Kurosawa's Stray Dog).
I'm torn on Cloud Atlas. I think the movie is great pulpy fun but I feel the book has a lot more to offer.
Pynchon's Inherent Vice and Paul Thomas Anderson's Inherent Vice, imo, are on par with each other.
Also I think I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream made for a better video game than a short story. I love the short story but it was fascinating to see those characters have personalities and backstories in the video game. Harlan can shit on it all he wants but he still played an enjoyably misanthropic AM.
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>>9803519
I am a huge Paul Thomas Anderson fan, but he messed up Inherent Vice.
Pyncon's book is much better
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Genre fiction /lit/ deems worth reading 2017-07-25 11:19:30 Post No.9803479
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Gather up all you condescending pretentious faggots. Get off your high chairs and take a break from your Dostoevskys and Greek eroticas.
ITT: Post Quality Genre Fiction
I'll start. THE STAND by Stephen King
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Tolkien seems fairly well regarded on here, as does Lovecraft and Arthur C Clarke.
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>>9803479
Yay! something I can participate in with a reasonable amount of competency.
For science fiction readers, I would recommend starfish.
It's an excellent psychological exploration, combined with good speculation and an interesting plot.
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>>9803618
For fantasy I would reccomend the first law by joe abercrombie.
The characters are just as interesting as the action itself, and pretty memorable. I've read several hundred fantasy novels and even the side characters stuck with me.
like most fantasy authors, he leans towards series instead of single standalone books, and this is no exception.