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Who is the coolest author ever to have lived? And why is it Byron?
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Byron was a delusional faggot. He was a political peon.

I'd say Alan Moore.
>anarchist
>best comic writer ever
>believes in crazy occult shit
>looks like pic related
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>>7569014
So lightweight Crowley with crayons?
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>>7569014
do i even need to say where you need to go back to?

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My News Years resolution is to write 30 minutes a day and read for an hour. Am I on my way /lit/? A-am I doing good?
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have you kept up so far?
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>>7568602
yea
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>>7568596
You don't have to do either every day, just when you feel like it
I mean, if you like doing both you'll do them often, if not then maybe it's just not your thing, it's no big deal

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>1. Pynchon
Gravity's Rainbow > V. > Mason & Dixon > The Crying of Lot 49 > Bleeding Edge
>2. DeLillo
Mao II > White Noise > The Names > Ratner's Star > Underworld > Libra
>3. Roth
American Pastoral > Portnoy's Complaint
>4. McCarthy
Blood Meridian > The Road > No Country for Old Men
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The Bloom 4 are Shakespeare, Dante, Cervantes, and I'm not sure who number 4 is. Maybe Chaucer.
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>>7568013
I dont wink dat what u tink is his top more is weally a top ofur ciz it is more of is new works you listen he is more like an older guy liker

also you know his favortie is Leopold Bloom you knnow why, its the name you know.
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Just gonna rate what I read

>Roth
Nothing

>DeLillo
Americana > Point Omega

>Pynchon
Gravity's Rainbow > Inherent Vice > Bleeding Edge > The Crying of Lot 49

>McCarthy
Outer Dark = Child of God > Blood Meridian > The Road

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I finished this one yesterday and The ending had me tearing up, which I was not expecting. What books got to you, /lit/?
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Lmao ur a fagit
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fuck off you nob-headed wanker
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we are fourhcan we dont cry we can take on anymovie andy books anysongs anything pictures and nywes anything we are ready and willing to read the hardst books and watch the most movies, we are really good and never cry you plwedd we are peagion, we do not formive, we do not forgit, expeenct us

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It's out in about 3 months. Can't remember the name. It's almost 300 pages long, which probably nearly killed him.

Good author, though. Stuff like White Noise and Underworld are good books, and unusual. Running Dog is alright. Does /lit/ like him?
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Mao II is real fine, White Noise too.
He's better as a long parable writer than as a storyteller imo.
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Mao II, White Noise, The Names and Ratner's Star are excellent.

Underworld and Libra are great in parts but overall I consider them failures.
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>>7567729
>>7567734
>>7567749


>obvious viral marketing
>delete this pls

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What did Proudhon mean by this?

>Jews. Write an article against this race that poisons everything by sticking its nose into everything without ever mixing with any other people. Demand its expulsion from France with the exception of those individuals married to French women. Abolish synagogues and not admit them to any employment. Finally, pursue the abolition of this religion. It’s not without cause that the Christians called them deicide. The Jew is the enemy of humankind. They must be sent back to Asia or be exterminated. By steel or by fire or by expulsion the Jew must disappear.
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>>7567356
He meant that Jews should be prosecuted because they immigrate to various European countries and form their own enclaves which don't contribute to society, but only feed all their productivity back into their own communities.

Are "what did he mean by this" thread bait? It always seems to me that the meaning of the quote OP is asking about is painfully obvious
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Tl;Dr with jews you lose
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>>7567393
Marx agrees

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

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>Can't afford Shakespeare
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That picture does make me want to buy him desu
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>>7567252
How much do you think he charged for total access to his boipussi?
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>>7567252

? i paid $8 for a complete shakespeare. every secondhand store I've been in has at least two or three of his plays for a buck each of less. probably one of the cheapest possible writers you could read.

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Post your favorite red pill books. I'll start.
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>red pill

Get out.
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>>7567150
Try to stay on topic please. Thanks.
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>>7567149
>le pill memes

kill yourself

Seriously though, read the great triad: Nietzsche, Freud, and Marx

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>The Mahabharata is the longest known epic poem and has been described as "the longest poem ever written". Its longest version consists of over 100,000 shloka or over 200,000 individual verse lines (each shloka is a couplet), and long prose passages. About 1.8 million words in total, the Mahabharata is roughly ten times the length of the Iliad and the Odyssey combined, or about four times the length of the Ramayana.

honestly, that's just poor writing
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shloka shloka
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>>7567142

Has anyone on /lit/ actually read this?

Anyone alive?
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>>7567142
A lot of stuff happens in it. It's not just the main story, it's also the stuff that leads up to it and the ending. And the main story itself traces the entire lives of the Pandavas.

>>7567184
Apparently some people have but obviously it takes a really long time.

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For school we have to read a book for French. Which book would be the easiest/most exciting to read. I am on a B2 level for French at the Common European Framework for Reference for Languages. My teacher recommended authors like Marc Lévy or Guillaume Musso, but I feel like their books focus too much on love and romance, which I don't really care about.
>inb4 underage
I am in my final year
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Marc Lévy and Musso are pure shit. This being said, a lot of French literature concerns feelings and love.
Zazie dans le métro, Les Choses or Bel-Ami are three classics that shouldn't be that hard to read.
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Do yourself a favour and read Excercices de style. Please. Anyone serious about learning french should do so.
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If you are allowed to read a single play, Le Malentendu by Camus is the easiest thing I've read in French so far. Folio publishes it alongside Caligula, which is a little more difficult but a much superior piece of writing.

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Well, /lit/ quick question.

My girlfriend loves poetry... and I'm more of a philistine.

That said, she always cared about my interest. Our anniversary is coming up, and I decided to try and learn a bit. I read a few of the classics, from Poe, Goethe, Whitman, in order to get just a smidge of inspiration and write her a short poem as a gift. Aside a real gift ofc.

Here's what I got.

I know it's not the best, but its inspired in a year we spent apart, and I think I could use your input to make it better.

Thanks.
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Replace 'Julia' with whatever your gf's name is:

Display thy breasts, my Julia, there let me
Behold that circummortal purity;
Between whose glories, there my lips I’ll lay,
Ravished in that fairVia Lactea.
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>>7566956
¿For what better that travelling alone? Thought the captain in his rotted wood throne.
On the night of heavy rain and violent storm someone stood at the boardwalk--
The captain gazed through his window at the soaked, delightful figure.
He helped the young lavender dress maiden come aboard, helping her with her gear.
For three months they sailed together, at first cautious then calm as the weather.
They knew that it was no more than a temporary arrangement, at most it was entertainment.
With the shore nearing, they ignored the conditions.
They fell for each other with no inhibitions.
Yet they always had present that they had no future;
It was a teary eyed goodbye they pretended not to care about.
Defeated the captain took to his quarters and found a rose colored letter.
“Hold this close to you Captain, for I will come back. I will meet you or you will meet me,
And we will love each other whether sooner or later.”
He wrote back, but only one time, and it was then the first time that he did not lie.
His heart was hers fully when he penned ‘Forever yours truly.’
The first days were pain and the Captain repented.
Not once before had he fell for a maiden.
Pain became sorrow, and sorrow gave on to memories.
He doubted the word of the damsel, if they would be together.
He cherished their time, and if that goodbye, he could think of worse ones.
And so this love story often came to conclusion.
They both wondered if there was a point to delusion.
Years went by, separated by ocean,
The captain grew older without his maiden.
It seemed not sane to carry devotion.
Moored and between swigs of rum, his thoughts where unbound
What if for her travels another ship she had found?
He always had promised to love her,
Would that be enough to lead her back to familiar waters?
The captain sat up glum, the end of the bottle marked the beginning of dawn.
Asking these questions led to dark places, and the heart paces
He thought not more of darkness,
and fell asleep into the three months of calmness.
From the dock a figure waited,
In a lavender dress her fate contemplated.
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Just replace the name with whatever your girlfriend's is

My sweet little whorish Nora I did as you told me, you dirty little girl, and pulled myself off twice when I read your letter. I am delighted to see that you do like being fucked arseways. Yes, now I can remember that night when I fucked you for so long backwards. It was the dirtiest fucking I ever gave you, darling. My prick was stuck in you for hours, fucking in and out under your upturned rump. I felt your fat sweaty buttocks under my belly and saw your flushed face and mad eyes. At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora's fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.

You say when I go back you will suck me off and you want me to lick your cunt, you little depraved blackguard. I hope you will surprise me some time when I am asleep dressed, steal over to me with a whore's glow in your slumberous eyes, gently undo button after button in the fly of my trousers and gently take out your lover's fat mickey, lap it up in your moist mouth and suck away at it till it gets fatter and stiffer and comes off in your mouth. Sometimes too I shall surprise you asleep, lift up your skirts and open your drawers gently, then lie down gently by you and begin to lick lazily round your bush. You will begin to stir uneasily then I will lick the lips of my darling's cunt. You will begin to groan and grunt and sigh and fart with lust in your sleep. Then I will lick up faster and faster like a ravenous dog until your cunt is a mass of slime and your body wriggling wildly.

Goodnight, my little farting Nora, my dirty little fuckbird! There is one lovely word, darling, you have underlined to make me pull myself off better. Write me more about that and yourself, sweetly, dirtier, dirtier.

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I just finished Lolita, please may we have a discussion about this book, /lit/?

How did you feel towards Humbert in the end?

What was your initial impression of Lolita?

What do you think of Nabokov's prose?

I initially thought Lolita was quite a malicious girl, but I warmed to her when Humbert finds where she has settled down with her husband - she seemed genuinely motherly and sweet then. I also felt pretty sorry for Humbert and his loss in the end - he clearly still had a genuine love for Lolita as she grew up, and when he acknowledges, towards the end that his actions didn't allow Lolita a true childhood he seems to regret everything.

This is a pretty powerful book. I initially thought Nabokov was a show-off with his prose, but I grew to love it and found that even the most mundane of scenarios became interesting with his use of language.
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I only remember the Kubrick film years ago, how does the book compare to it?
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>>7566953
Nabokov wrote the screenplay but he altered details from the book (like instead of Lolita being 12, she's 14) and it has its variations, but the final film seems to almost ignore the screenplay and is pretty different from the actual novel. Clare Quilty has a lot more focus in the film than he does the book.
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>>7566945
What's with that cover?

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After the utter failure of Ideology Lit and PineCone, it's time for another poorly planned disaster.
This time the theme is "Noir, in a city". That's it. I'll collect submissions for two months, then collect everything that’s worth reading into a pdf. The pdf wont be published like the redditfags, it'll just be for us to look at. If it works out well, maybe I'll put together a little website or tumblr or some shit, but for now it’s just a writing exercise and a chance to get people reading your work.
There will be a $25 prize for best story, delivered through paypal. It’s just a small reward to show appreciation for the work. In addition to that, I can help whoever actually submits stuff worth publishing get published. I've worked in the industry for about 5 years now.
There are no donation or submission fees, obviously.

Submission rules/Information:
1. Send all submissions in a Word or notepad file to [email protected]. If you would like, you can put your name on them. Anonymous is fine.
2. Submissions will be accepted until March 10th, 2016, at 4 P.M EST.
3. Since this is just for fun, I have no problem helping people with editing their work. Please indicate in your email if you would like me to assist in editing before I consider it for the magazine.
4. Best story is chosen completely arbitrarily by me. I'll be the only one editing and compiling this. I don’t give a shit about anyone else’s opinion.
5. Along with your submission, you can send one picture from the NY Public Library Public Domain, http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/. It's an easy way to provide an aesthetic.
6. All forms of work will be accepted, but it needs to be related to noir. If you can shit out a noir poem, go for it.
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>>7566859
Kill yourself you fucking faggot. No one gives a shit about your spam.
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>>7566870
fair
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>>7566859
how do you define noir? cos i can't do PIs and fedoras

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What are your favorite Kafka stories?

What do you think about the ending of the Castle, or the proposed ending where the man slowly dies and on his deathbed gets a letter inviting him to the castle?

Has anyone read his Diaries, or his letters to his father?

Has anyone read Max Brod's work, or others that Kafka worked with?
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My favorite Kafka story is the one where it's a different author because Kafka sucks
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>>7566789
I'm sorry you feel that way. Mine is probably Amerika, I really enjoy it.
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>>7566784
I haven't read all of his works, but The Castle may be my favorite. Also, his diaries were a good read too.

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ITT:
Post resources for learning how to write: style guides, plot, editing, etc.
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http://sonic.net/~rteeter/grtbloom.html
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>>7566739
The Seven Plots book is great
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I feel like I could write something in the style of 'the art of learning' by josh waitzkin.

I write for a living in journalism but when it comes to story telling I always have a hell of a time with proper story structure because when it's fiction. I lay out the story and I fill in blanks in my mind. Of course no one would be able to fill the mental gaps I leave. So my stories come out editing to fuck and losing sight of what I originally wanted them to be.

Are there any resources for getting over leaving gaps?

I'm taking a 6-month period of travel and all around self-improvement I would love to get over this in that time so I can better understand the craft.

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