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Where do I start on Ancient Greek mythology? Specifically, the pantheon of Gods and the stories of the heroes
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>>7554874
Ovid's Metamorphoses
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Mythology - Edith Hamilton
The Library of Greek Mythology - Apollodurus
The Iliad - Homer
The Odyssey - Homer
The Aeneid - Virgil
The Theban Plays - Sophocles
Heracles, Medea, Hecuba - Euripedes
The Oresteia - Aeschylus
The Metamorphoses - Ovid
Heroides - Ovid
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>>7554924
>Mythology - Edith Hamilton
This is good if you have no knowledge at all and don't want to read Wikipedia articles

otherwise just read the original sources if you can handle them. Ovid and Homer

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>book title is "[famous person] cried"
>or generally "[famous person] [does action]"
I consider this cheap for some reason.

Post pet peeves, I guess.
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>>7554584
>[famous person] cried
name one book that does this
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>>7554632
>Nietzsche cried
>Odysseys wept
I am sure there are more.
Kafka on the Shore fits the wider category.
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>>7554641
No, wait, that first one is originally called "When Nietzsche wept", Nietzsche cried is just what it was translated to in my country.

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How can I write like him, /lit/?
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Love
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>>7554449
Love is not enough. You must love a babushka. The way Mitya loves Grushenka.
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>>7554457
The way Alexei loves Grushenka

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>'But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

What did he mean by this?
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>>7554176
is it the kgb translation?
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you can't watch porn
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>>7554192
kjb yeah

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>All right, I will show you, if you can see that some sense-perceptions[ 10] do not summon the understanding to look into them, because [b] the judgment of sense-perception is itself adequate; whereas others encourage it in every way to look into them, because sense-perception does not produce a sound result.

I don't understand this part of book 7 of the republic, what did Socrates mean by this?
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Literally that some people can't see farther than their noses.
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>>7553988
So in his description the first group of people take what they see as granted while the second group of people look into it in more depth because relying on the sense alone is inadequate?
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Are lots of uni courses teaching Plato right now? A handful of Republic threads lately.

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Why is a playwright /lit/worthy but a screenwriter is not?
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>>7553951

Less people see plays, therefore it's more elite.
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>>7553956

That's...that's it?
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You can read through the script of a play as literature

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Is here anyone who reads literature in Chinese? No matter whether it'd be a person born and brought up by Chinese family or Amerifat who learned that by themselves, I've just got interested. What really bothers me is whether there is any difference between reading, let's say, in Russian, English or any other relatively phonetic language or Chinese. Is that even possible to master it in terms of good literacy in order to read with absolutely no problem and even get some pleasure out of it? In addition, is there any worthwhile literature written by contemporary writers? For I myself am a Ukrainian who'd of course like to master English first in more or less 4 years and after that move on to learning Chinese. I'll be like 29 years old then, so won't it be too late to achieve such a level? As for English, I've been studying it for 2 years now and am highly dying for Chinese.
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Ya man, 29 is basically your last year of life, should start preparing for death and your for a suttee.
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It's very different. Hard to explain if you're not familiar with the language, and doubly hard since I learned Chinese first so it's the "default" for me. But generally I think the characters are completely divorced from pronunciation, which means you can glean meaning without having to sound it out. I think that speeds up reading considerably, but the flip side is that characters are typically more expressive in meaning, so you have to pay some more attention to nuances.

I read Chinese works in Chinese (duh) and some Japanese and Korean works in Chinese. For European languages I typically prefer English translations (western names are a nightmare in Chinese, very clunky and awkward, often invoking strange characters).
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>>7553897
And would you recommend me to go thorough all this hell? Or had better go and pick up some Spanish instead?

This was a great fucking book

>dat character building
>dat world building
>dat existentialism
>dat poli-sci tension
>dat humour
>I will have nothing to mourn

What is Houellebecq's masterwork prior to this?
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the author looks like he was cursed
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>>7553604
and his publisher was blessed
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>>7553603
La Possibilité d'une île

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I watched alot of porn during my formative years and I feel like that's destroyed my perception of them in the real world. I don't want that to come back to bite me in the professional world, so what books help with this?
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good thread OP. i'm the same as you and i'll be lurking for the recs.

thanks buddy
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>>7553466
Try the New Testament and Russian literature.
Maybe some Dante and Petrearch.
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Crime and Punishment

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Anyone got thoughts on this?

I really liked it, felt quite unique
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To me it felt like a nice epilogue of sorts to On The Road. The Buddhist theme is very superficial, but it's a nice book. You read Kerouac to get a feeling for the subculture of the time and this is probably one of his best expositions of that.
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>>7553298
What made you feel that the Buddhism stuff was superficial? To me it seemed quite genuine, especially with him arguing with japhy about east and west really being the same thing and how he sort of had his own perspective that wasnt too bothered, in the end, about what others thought.
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>>7553307
Don't get me wrong, I think Kerouac was genuinely interested in Buddhism (case in point, see his short biography of the Buddha). But for a book called The Dharma Bums, supposedly about seeking a spiritual life, it's much more concerned with the superficial Buddhist aesthetic that took over counter-culture America around the 50s/60s. It's not really a critique of the book, just an observation. I thoroughly enjoyed reading more of Kerouac's adventures, but the veneer of Buddhism doesn't really change the On The Road formula much.

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Why is Moby Dick white?
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BIG
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>>7553236
fuck off
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>>7553237
JUST

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Texts that can help me appreciate and analyse litreature

I'm looking for examples like How to Read Literature Like a Professor or An Introduction to Literature, Criticism and Theory by Andrew Bennett
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>>7553183
>How to Read Literature Like a Professor or An Introduction to Literature, Criticism and Theory by Andrew Bennett

Why aren't those sufficient?
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>>7553186
I haven't read either, I'm just looking for the best example akin to those
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Bloom's got a whole series on the analysis of pivotal works by hand picked essays from both himself and other important writers.

His shakespeare is also worth a look i've also farted

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Do you guys underline or annotate books while you read?

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>>7553147
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On your first read?
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>>7553150
yes

makes subsequent reads better
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>>7553141
Hardly ever. I treat even paperbacks with utmost respect.

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I want to read In Search of Lost Time in French but I can't really read French. I can stumble through articles on Le Monde with a dictionary and I read Le Petit Prince mostly independently.

Do or not do? I want to do it as a language learning exercise too but I fear it might just be irritating rather than gratifying.
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work yourself up to it you retard

you don't start training for a marathon by running a fucking marathon
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>>7553114
This. What is wrong with people?
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>>7553114

I did, went quite well desu.

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A poem by John Keats, maybe left unfinished but look how strongly it creates the uncanny feeling:

"This living hand, now warm and capable
Of earnest grasping, would, if it were cold
And in the icy silence of the tomb,
So haunt thy days and chill thy dreaming nights
That thou would wish thine own heart dry of blood
So in my veins red life might stream again,
And thou be conscience-calm’d–see here it is–
I hold it towards you."
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keats sucks, this is not romanticism. Start with Schiller or Coleridge, pleb.
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are you reading Bennett and Royle or what OP
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>>7553504
pleb detected

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