who /swedishstudent/ here?
uppsala reporting in. despite having kulturintresserade friends and whatnot (at least they've studied writing/cultural history/lit, which is more than most il/lit/erates), i'm having trouble finding people (read: anyone desu) who are genuinely interested in reading something as basic as classics
>not thinking starting an anonymous book circle or anything of the likes is such a bad idea
pls help. i'm serious
(pic semi-related, not a big fan of stenmark)
I feel you. Studying at Chalmers, haven't met a single person who doesn't think reading is a waste of time. I feel like a massive idiot every time I do a bit of late night reading in the studying halls.
Gjorde du inte denna tråden för en kvart sen?
>>7562069
why are swedish guys so qt
Is there a more spectacular blunder possible than reading Nietzsche as your very first philosopher?
I mean, fuck. At least read Plato first.
... really? I ... kind of was going to start reading it this monday.
>>7561542
Don't listen to him. Just take your time and read him thoroughly; anything you don't understand just look up.
Nietzsche is very much based off older authors, but at the same time is highly idiosyncratic in both his style/methods and his goals. As long as you stay vigilant throughout the reading, you should be able to get something from it.
>>7561542
Don't listen to OP. Nietzsche is a lot of fun and pretty profound.
/lit/, what's the nicest (or most memorable) thing a stranger said about your writing?
"Reminds me of Bret Easton Ellis but more wordy"
>>7561016
>it's shit
Is he still worth reading in 2016? I've only read pic related and found the subject matter to be very dated. Underworld is, apparently, one of the greatest novels of the post-modern era. Worth the time or are we past it?
>>7560897
Haven't read Underworld, but I can tell you that White Noise, surprisingly, is pretty much as relevant a commentary on media and technology today as it was in '85
>>7560897
>the paralyzing fear of ones own inevitable demise
yeah such dated themes
It's only 'dated' insofar as it addresses the foundation of our times. How is that not worth reading?
Alright guys! So we're off a great start! We've chosen the type of text that the project will, we've chosen what the topic will be, and we've chosen who it will be about. Now we can start writing!
So, just to recap everything:
This project will be a short story collection.
The topic is:
"Pick one figure, real or fictional, whom we all admire, and write a collection of short stories some how revolving around that figure, tying it together in a single round of editing at the end.
The stories don't even have to feature that figure as a character per se, just be related to the figure even tangentially.
I'm thinking something like Tarantino's Pulp Fiction, different tales of the same people, strung together in time."
And the figures that we will write about are David Foster Wallace and Slavoj Zizek.
Now, we can also add in a third figure if you guys want, but DFW and Zizek are the main guys.
Here is a link to the current Google Doc that we are working from: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L10Cbgj7CUEAe1-LwwNfYY1BkVaO8x976IkAtcL1Ll4/edit#
And here is a link to the previous thread if you'd like to read through it: >>7546342
So now all we need, but isn't terribly important right now, is a book title.
>>7560292
It seems that you've removed a great deal of short stories.
Are you planning to leave the others currently in the file?
- a concerned author
Are you planning to leave the ones left over?
>>7560336
Since those short stories were written before the topic was decided, I felt that they were no long relevant, so I've removed them
I don't plan on removed anymore that are currently in the file, although one or two don't have much to do with either DFW or Zizek.
>>7560347
Some of them might make a great introduction - I mean the poem or the Empty Man novella. How about that?
Hey guys, I'm thinking of picking up a copy of pic related.
Can anyone suggest some more contemporary literature (2000-present) worth reading?
>contemporary literature
top kek
Kazuo Ishiguro
I read Banville's Mefisto and it was good if you're into Faust myths. He seemed like he had some interesting things to say and The Sea is supposed to be his most acclaimed book so go for it.
>>7560247
I always feared, perhaps irrationally, that Ishiguro was just a classic middle-brow patrician spilling out stylistically conservative novels with enough skill and know-how to rack up a bit of critical acclaim among Guardianistas without rocking the boat too hard.
I will rectify my ignorance and presumptuousness at once. Where do you suggest I start?
Come up with a new name for Science.
Weakness
>>7560204
knowence
Emptiness
The whole "to each according to his needs" thing in Critique of the Gotha Program is, i think, a good idea when we are talking about access to healthcare, tools for the disabled, food and water donations, e.t.c. but the idea that we should redistribute actual wealth just seems like retarded nonsense, i have never met anyone intelligent who believes in it
I think the wealth of the earth belongs to its inhabitants. Having your own property so long as you or your families uses it is fine, but owning miles and miles of land that other people work, is just greed.
>>7559922
It's an ideal built upon jealously and envy that put into practice, is a good way to break human rights, kill off people and ruin nature. And yet people keep saying "maybe next time".
>>7559922
How sure are you that we can trust your ability to assess intelligence?
When you say the redistribution of wealth, do you exclusively mean money, or do you include things like businesses and property?
>left wing nietzschean
that's only two terms you didn't understand, OP, you're not even trying
nietzsche was the first cultural marxist
>>7559404
Why is that anime girl so turned on by left wing Nietzscheans? It's pretty lewd.
Lets talk about the Bible, Divine Comedy, Paradise Lost, Crime and Punishment and any other Christian literature you can think of.
>>7559400
20th century had a lot of great Catholic authors, Greene, Tolkien, Wolfe, O'Connor, Chesterton. Any more notable ones? Especially outside English language.
>>7559400
>Christians in charge of literature
Books with Christian themes that aren't direct bible fan fiction are trash. Yes, even Dostoevsky.
>>7559406
Shusaku Endo
/lit/ confessions thread.
I write, and publish (under user names created via anonymous emails) fanfiction... a lot of fanfiction.
I unironically enjoy YA lit as an adult
I used to say "yes ive read it" to every book they ask me if i had read, then only the ones i was planning on reading or heard about. Then i stopped.
I've yet to read the Meme trilogy
I read books.
Six signs that you are reading a bad book: 1) you are on page 500, and you only have a slight idea what the book is about; 2) you find yourself skimming several pages, because you know the whole point of a passage is contained in the last line, which is simply a rephrased version of the sentence that ended the previous three passages; 3) you don't care about any of the characters; 4) you don't know who the hell the narrator of a particular section is (you may have come across him or her before, but (see #3) you didn't care about him or her, so you don't even remember; 5) you find yourself in a bad mood, because you're on page 500, you still have about 150 pages to go, and you feel like you've gone too far to give up now; 6) you keep discovering more signs that you are reading a bad book while you are writing your review after (FINALLY) finishing Roberto Belano's THE SAVAGE DETECTIVES.
I'll spare you anymore details. Suffice it to say, I think this is a bad book.
Lol pleb
I'm at page 50 of catcher in the rye and I wonder why the fuck did I go into a book store with the /lit starter kit and showed it to someone working there.
Bought How to kill a mocking bird with it.
What have I done...
Why the fuck is the catcher in the rye in the lit starter kit?
Post recommended conservative writers or texts.
Some of my favourite conservative writers:
Joseph de Maistre
Anthony Ludovici
Carl Schmitt
I believe these write with perfect clarity and reach to the essentials, much more so than any abstract liberal theorist might.
I also like Heinrich von Treitschke for his rugged, vigorous conservatism.
For modern guys, Roger Scruton is good.
Post your recommendations or comments
DOSTOEVSKY
"Ooga Booga, where them colored girls at so I can rape them" -Ezra Pound.
Only cucks like the conservative meme
Compadres, panas, parceros, pibes, manines, vatos, amigos, primos: queda inaugurado el primer critique thread en lengua española. Publiquen en este hilo sus escritos y aténganse a las normas y usos de los hilos de crítica que, presumo, ya conocen por sus versiones anglosajonas.
Adelante, y Dios quiera que no nos cierren.
>>7558375
Get out
Pene, poronga, pinga, polla.
Quisiera llamar a un ángel
Que rompa mi monotonía.
Hace años que mis pasos
caminan junto al silencio.
No pido mucho, sólo compañía
y que sus alas me protejan
de las lágrimas de esta vida,
y que su mirada me haga
olvidar que yo nací,
y que su manos me cubran los ojos
cuando ella no está ahí.
Serás fantasía de un alma desdichada
¿O es que acaso vuelas junto a mí?
What's the one literary thing we can all agree on?
That Messi > Ronaldo
That Han shot first
>>7558301
Socrates was real and so is Atlantis.