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I find his ideas to be interesting, though would probably end up being terrible in action. What are your guy's thoughts?
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> Mindset is a simple idea discovered by world-renowned Stanford University psychologist Carol Dweck in decades of research on achievement and success—a simple idea that makes all the difference.

> In a fixed mindset, people believe their basic qualities, like their intelligence or talent, are simply fixed traits. They spend their time documenting their intelligence or talent instead of developing them. They also believe that talent alone creates success—without effort. They’re wrong.

> In a growth mindset, people believe that their most basic abilities can be developed through dedication and hard work—brains and talent are just the starting point. This view creates a love of learning and a resilience that is essential for great accomplishment. Virtually all great people have had these qualities.

TED (not TEDx) Presentation by her:
https://www.ted.com/talks/carol_dweck_the_power_of_believing_that_you_can_improve

Book's website:
https://mindsetonline.com/whatisit/about/

Anyone read this?
Horribly oversimplified observation... tl;dr-- kids who were praised with "you are really smart" by their parents tend to have difficult time undertaking new challenges that threaten their self-esteem.

Kids who were told "you worked really hard" tend to have an easier time undertaking new challenges that threaten their self-esteem.

Any of you have this problem where the fear of failing subconsciously paralyzes you from doing an activity or hobby? I'm 30 years old and found myself having panic attack when I signed up for a once a week foreign language course. As retarded as this sounds, I was sitting there in my kitchen staring at chapter one and actually broke into a sweat. Trying to figure out why- someone recommended this. All my life I was told I was "really smart", yet I almost dropped out college and haven't succeeded at learning anything new beyond Dwarf Fortress and Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup.

Any of you familiar with Carol Dweck's work?
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just be yourself
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More bullshit about unlocking our true potential, bunch of crap, no mindset will fix your lack of intelligence.
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I was the smart kid too but as it turns out words are fucking useless (and I ate shit, academically), so now I dont really care for compliments or anything like that. Just get shit done and shut off the noise.

Havent read the book, but its very proven how you think and feel does influence your actions. I suppose in my case I thought evrything was a given, rip young me (glad he's dead)

What books do I need to read in order to become the most patrician in the least amount of time?
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>>9856358
The reason why it's seen as patrician is because you need to invest time to get there, you eternal pleb.
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>>9856358
Gravity's Rainbow, Infinite Jest, and that other book they are always going on about around here
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>>9856992
Stoner?

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Hello /lit/. After reading a ton of YA shit I decided that I need to reconsider my reading list. I deleted over 50 fantasy novels from my reading list and started with the Greeks. I was wondering what is the optimal order for reading all the plays of Sophocles, Aeschylus and Euripides.
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Aeschylus
Sophocles
Euripides

Get books on in each and read It cover to cover. You best have read Homer and Hesiod because myths and what comes after the Trojan war are a big deal.
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>>9856313
This. I think more different reading is required though. For example when you want to read The Persians by Aeschylos you need the background information of Herodotus. I'd say also get started with the other major Greek works and sprinkle some plays in here and there. You don't need them that badly to understand the plays but they do give them another layer.
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I've read the Illiad and know the basic gestalt of the Odyssey but it isn't a very appealing premise to me so I don't think I'll read it, at least not yet. I'm reading Hesiod's Theogony before starting with the plays but I was wondering more about the order of the plays than that of the authors. Oedipus at Colonus was written after the Antigones but it presents earlier events so I don't know which one to read first. That's kinda what I'm looking for here, the exact order of the plays (where relevant).
Also, how important is Herodotus? It looks like a huge undertaking and I haven't been able to find any good editions to pirate so it's going to be a pain reading a pretty shit pdf on Kindle.

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Are self-help books a load of bollocks or are there genuinely brilliant books that actually change your lives? Recommend some of the best, pretty please.
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If any one of them worked, there would never be another one, would there?
Most are about programming behaviors for the masters to manage YOU.
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>>9856218
The capital, anything by adorno, judith butler. I will have my mtf operation in less than a week!
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>>9856225
Bad premise, poor arguement and a false conclusion.

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Anybody else notice that in any discussion of a work of literature, almost half the commenters are working off the film/TV/comics adaption?
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>>9856161
nope
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Yep.
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Nope

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Does /lit/ recommendations for good books (preferably non-fiction) about medieval monks/monastic orders? I have of course already read Name of the Rose.

Thanks in advance,
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>>9856157
God's Philosophers, it mainly talks about the life of the most important monks and the way they paved the way for the renaissance.
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This one's pretty good.

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Is Sapiens or Homo Deus worth reading? What about superintelligence? Normally I don't care about these types of books but actual smart people recommend them (I don't mean "literary intellectuals").
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>>9856059
Fuck off, you dumb frogshitter
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Yes, worth reading, although the carnivore-shaming gets a bit tedious. You may not agree in toto with the conclusions, but rich in observations.
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Those are books for the tech-crowd; the rationalists; the singularitards.
I think Homo Deus was ok. Still need to read Sapiens.

Is it really that good?
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it's better
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yes.
If you don't understand it yourself (if that is even possible somehow), have someone explain it to you.
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it's basically the lion king but depressing

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>In 1962 Russell played a public role in the Cuban Missile Crisis: in an exchange of telegrams with Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, Khrushchev assured him that the Soviet government would not be reckless.[146] Russell sent this telegram to President Kennedy:
>YOUR ACTION DESPERATE. THREAT TO HUMAN SURVIVAL. NO CONCEIVABLE JUSTIFICATION. CIVILIZED MAN CONDEMNS IT. WE WILL NOT HAVE MASS MURDER. ULTIMATUM MEANS WAR... END THIS MADNESS.[147]

What did he mean by this?
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>>9855974
Your actions are desperate. What you are doing is a threat to the survival of the human race and can't be justified. For a civilized society mass murder is abhorrent. There'll be a war if you don't desist from your actions. Please stop.
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>>9855974
Don't drop nukes because it would kill a lot of people and killing is bad.
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Khrushchev was such a wuss. If only Stalin had lived forever.

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How does this sound as a book opening?

“We are nothing, we were born as nothing, we will die as nothing,” he snarled through gritted teeth, his eyes fixated on the infinite darkness that laid beyond the one inch glass.
“Is this all that we were destined for, To drift aimlessly through the cosmic void?” his voiced trembled, he turned around and faced me, the tears running down his face, he reached into the back pocket of his jumpsuit, retrieving a bloody glass shard, blood dripped from the end of it, he brought it to his throat,
“Do you wish to live this meaningless existence, bound to this ship for the rest of eternity? I don’t know about you, but I’ve made my choice.”
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>>9855959
>>9849842
try here bud
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>>9855959
>“We are nothing, we were born as nothing, we will die as nothing,” he snarled through gritted teeth, his eyes fixed on the infinite darkness that laid beyond the one inch glass.
>“Is this all that we were destined for, To drift aimlessly through the cosmic void?” his voiced trembled. He turned around and faced me, the tears running down his face. Reaching into the back pocket of his jumpsuit and retrieving a glass shard with blood dripping from the end of it, he brought it to his throat,
>“Do you wish to live this meaningless existence, bound to this ship for the rest of eternity? I don’t know about you, but I’ve made my choice.”
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>>9855959
bit much

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Is it good? How does it compare to the movies?
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Yes, it is good.
Clearly, Campbell had read At the Mountains of Madness.
It's not visceral like the films. (I'm presuming you mean the latter two.) If you want an evocatively gory creature story, you will like The Mist by Stephen King.

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Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
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Yeats sucks.
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>>9855938
I agree I like this one though
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'In our time the destiny of man presents its meanings in political terms.' - THOMAS MANN.

How can I, that girl standing there,
My attention fix
On Roman or on Russian
Or on Spanish politics,
Yet here's a travelled man that knows
What he talks about,
And there's a politician
That has both read and thought,
And maybe what they say is true
Of war and war's alarms,
But O that I were young again
And held her in my arms.

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Am I ready to read Nietzsche? I've read the Iliad, dabbled in Ancient Greek, Hebrew, Latin, read the first two volumes of Copleston, and I've also read like half of the Oxford Presocratics volume. I've also completed an introductory philosophy course (history of philosophy, basic survey), but that's not really the cornerstone of my philosophy education...

About my German: I've read Werther, Faust I, Der Goldne Topf, off the top of my head.

ニーチェ is referenced constantly in the critical literature I read, so it seems that I'll inevitably have to read him.

I think I'll finish the Presocratics book first and then read Nietzsche, but I welcome any suggestions you may have.
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>>9855818
you obviously fell for the memes, just read goddamn fucking nietzsche already
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>>9855834
But I enjoyed the memes genuinely.

Also I haven't come here in a while, how come my picture was deleted? Such images were commonplace back when I was an everyday /lit/izen.
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>>9855818
You need to read kant, hegel, schopenhauer, spinoza and descartes still if you want to understand nietzche, itll just go over your head otherwise

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I'm about to start a job revolving about Innovations.
Do you want to throw around some thoughts about it?

I will summarize just from the top of my mind which theses I read/heard:

Former Professor of mine
>Innovation means to translate nature into technology.

Romans 12:2
>Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

J. Schumpeter
>Concept of creative destruction

Alan Watts and C.J. Steiner
>It's impossible to force innovation, you just need to let it happen.

Looking forward to own points of view, literature and inspiring images.
>inb4 random google quotes of Musk, Jobs and Einstein
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https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2016/12/21/the-computational-condition/
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Lyotard's Postmodern Condition is heavy on thinking outside the box

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