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Is the Lydia Davis translation as good as people say it is? Or should I just get Montcrieff for Swann's Way?
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I think the general consensus is that Davis is better than Moncrieff for Swann's Way, but since she only translated the first volume you probably want to read Moncrieff if you're going to tackle all of Proust to avoid switching translators.
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>>7973097
I have both, and I gotta say: I like the Montcrieff translation a lot better.
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>>7973135
Same goes for me. I'd say the Davis translation is a bit easier to read and has helpful footnotes. But the Moncrieff version has more character and nostalgic flair to it.

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What are some good books that make good arguments against philosophies like nihilism and anti-natalism?
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Anti-natalism is objective truth. The only certainties in life are that you will die and that reproducing is a sin.
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>against nihilism
The Holy Bible.
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Grendel

teleology vs. nihilism

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Help me out here, guys. I'm completely stumped. I read this about a year or two ago and assumed it was a critique of the tendency to make genre fiction (or fiction in general) edgy and grimdark because that's "realistic".

I found I didn't quite understand where Le Guin was going with it, so to speak. Was she saying she eschewed the edginess - that she had walked away? Refusing to let her work fall into laziness etc? But I didn't really care.

Recently, the story/essay/whatever was mentioned in connection with an alleged child molestation epidemic in SF circles of the time. I thought it was BS and decided to google a few analyses to see what was going on. Turns out most analyses don't think it's any way a reflection on fiction. They seem to think it's a real-world political allegory.

I'm aware of the Henry James connection to utilitarianism, but can any kindly passer-by help me out here? What the hell is this actually about?
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>>7973052
It's an essay in moral philosophy - viz., on the limitations of utilitarianism.

I don't know where you got 'edgy', 'grimdark' or 'realistic'. Try reading it again after taking a class in introductory ethics.
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>>7973104
>I don't know where you got 'edgy', 'grimdark' or 'realistic'.

She says that modern audiences consider happiness 'archaic' and indicative of simple-mindedness. She hammers home repeatedly that despite their happiness, they aren't 'simple folk'. She then suggests that it is difficult for the reader to actually accept this, and then presents the scapegoat child, with the assurance that this will make the Omelasians far easier to picture, and to accept as both happy and complex, with rich inner lives etc.

As I said, I'm aware of its inspiration by William James (it's late) and his remarks on utilitarianism. But if this interpretation is correct then I fail to see it as interesting. It doesn't in any sense actually explore or consider the implied utilitarian system - it's just The Ones Who Didn't Subscribe To Specific Variants Of Utilitarianism. So what? Whereas it seems at least to be somewhat provocative, or suggestive of an actual thesis, if it's read as a critique of trends in fiction.

And don't bother replying until you've taken an introductory course in not being a cunt.

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Hey bros. I need your help I need some help on founding a theme or writing essay topic about macbeth. I have to write sth, doesn't matter what, it could be a song, a letter, some poetry maybe but it has to be 800 words long and related Smith the story of Macbeth. Has someone an original idea?? Please
Thank you
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Do a comparison between Aristotles De Poetica and formal elements of Macbeth: discovery, peripeteia, suffering etc. Should be very simple and mildly interesting to your teacher
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>>7972984
Man, I miss how easy high school was. I just breezed through bullshit assignments like this without asking a Zimbabwean Feces Sculpting board for help.
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>>7972984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iU9JF-DXds

listen to this. its fucking perfect.

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has anybody read "Don't Touch This Book" by Jan van Helsing? i can't find any reviews that aren't really obscure blogs that don't really tell you much. this book apparently talks about an alternative view on history, and was banned in its own country. i can't find it anywhere for download in english. it also looks like the only way to buy it is through amazon. seems kind of weird that a book that is 10 years old doesn't have any relevant information about it on the internet. PLEASE HELP!!!

tl;dr
can't find anything substantial about this book or where to get it apart from amazon plz help.
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basically all the reviews on Goodreads are people saying he made some interesting claims, but backed literally none of them up.... doesnt explain why it's banned though
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>>7973040
thanks. i'll go to goodreads now to check that out.
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>>7972868
Instead of getting this, just get Zinn's People's History

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Saw the movie and hated it, should I assume that the book is shit too?

Or a better question: can I read it without thinking about Joaquin Phoenix grotesque face now?
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>>7972865
Joaquin is my husbando, delete this
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Book has much more stoner comedy. More psychedelic too.
>without thinking about Joaquin Phoenix
No.
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Have you read any Pynchon?
Its a pretty ok book. Really groovy

I hate stuff like pic related too but just out of curiosity what program do I need to write something in the same style ?
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MS Paint
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Okay, but in order to prepare yourself for it you first have to drink lots of bleach.
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>>7972874
will do that as soon as I figured out how to do that
>>7972866
already tried that tho

ITT: Writers who you'd bang without question
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>>7972862
t. De Beauvoir
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I never understood this. Everyone says he was so good looking, I just can't see it. Maybe there's another picture that looks better.
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>>7973717
Good looking as writers go at least.

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You have 1 minute to explain why you have not read this: https://istifhane.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/beforethelaw.pdf

go.
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I haven't been allowed.
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>>7972829
b-but i did
(and i also saw the orson welles' movie with that intro)
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>>7974576
Goddamn that movie was good. One of Welles best.

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Post the shittiest books ever written
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>He doesn't understand Salinger
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>be op
>read the first chapter of a well regarded book
>fail to understand it
>use hyperbole to bait /lit/ into explaining it for you
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>>7972820

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hey /lit/,
rate my purchases!
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cyberpunk/10
Liked brave new world, hated Do Androids.
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fuck off you stupid attentionwhore

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hi every1 im new!!!!!!! holds up whip (for slaves and women) my name is frederick but u can call me 7H3 SU93RM4N!!!!!!!! lol...as you can see im fucking superior!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet superior ppl like me _... im 20 years old (im powerful 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 insult people other myself (im super inteligent don't need anyone else if you dont like it deal w/it) bcuz it SOOOO apollonian-dionysian!!!! its superior 2 of course but i want to meet more superior people like me =) like they say the more the more powerful!!!! lol...neways i hope 2 meet lots of smart people here so become my disciples!!!!
jenseits von gut und böse!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ←- me provin that might makes right!!!!!

No1 is smart enough to understand my books haha,

7H3 SU93RM4N
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not even remotely funny
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>>7972663
Hi SU93RM4N! Meine Nama its Jake, but plz call me by my username ShadowdarkBatman. My fav book is the Marvel civil war and I listen to Slim, Yesus, Chef Keef, and of course classical music like orchestras and rock and roll. It bugs the fuck out of me that people are too dumb to enjoy clssic music, but you seem pret smart. What u listen to my man?

>>7972667
Rofl this game looks so weir. I dont even know what the HECK it is about am i right? W/e though count me in. Check my numbers!

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So I've decided to start with the Greeks am think Socrates is a good place to start. Which of Socrates books shall I start with?
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>>7972645

>pic
>Socrates

I'm triggered.
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start with max stirner
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pic related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ_hUxuumk0&index=1&list=PL6676C3E8A487FEE6

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What does it mean when people say something is Kafke-esque? Does it just mean dark in nature?
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i always thought it meant strangely impenetrable and impossibly complex like the bureaucratic system in "The trial"
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I don't know what people mean when they say it because most people who say it don't know what it means
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Just a term people use to appear cultured.

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Please explain to a plebeian what's wrong with this writing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhGqWcJGY
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Purple Prose
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SUNSET
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>>7973187
it's not tho

it's fairly spartan in terms of descriptors (nothing esoteric about them), it's just low brow

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