>thinking your "big ideas" can in any way make up for your shitty writing
Nabokov was so fucking right about everything.
Except Faulkner. He was just butthurt that Faulkner exceeded him as a writer in every way possible.
>>7976210
>He was just butthurt that Faulkner exceeded him as a writer in every way possible.
Not in poetic prose. Nabokov knew how to write metaphors, but Faulkner couldn’t do it.
And Lolita is a better book than anything by Faulkner, and will survive longer in the minds of readers and the general public.
>>7976245
And that is the immortality you and I may share
Would /lit/ recommend this book to someone relatively new to philosophy and theology? I'm familiar with Nietzche but have never read any of his works, I'm very interested in learning about his fictionalized portrayal of Zoroaster.
>>7976091
>I'm familiar with Nietzche but have never read any of his works
What did he mean by this?
>>7976099
Ive heard of him from other people
>>7976091
Read Beyond Good And Evil first, after that read On the Genealogy of Morality maybe read Zarathustra afterwards. zarathustra is really hard to understand.
Also you dont know nietzsche if you didnt read a single book of him.
For some reason webms with sound are not allowed here.
Basically, this is a segment of literature lesson in Russian school.
Original webm: https://2ch[---dot---]hk/b/src/124928600/14618682144720.webm
Transcription(translation follows):
Cкaжитe, вы cлышaли тaкoe cлoвocoчeтaниe, кaк "чтeниe мeждy cтpoк"?
Ecтecтвeннo.
Для вac этo впoлнe ecтecтвeннo.
Ho, oкaзывaeтcя, чтo читaть мeждy cтpoк мoгyт тoлькo нaши люди.
Cкaжитe, вы кoгдa читaeтe хyдoжecтвeннyю литepaтypy, y вac вoзникaeт кapтинкa пepeд глaзaми?
Этo впoлнe ecтecтвeннo для вac.
Ho в миpe бoльшe никтo кapтинки пepeд глaзaми, кoгдa читaeт тeкcт, нe видит.
Этo и ecть oбpaзный cпocoб мышлeния, cвoйcтвeнный тoлькo нaшeмy чeлoвeкy.
Bидeть oбpaзы тaм, гдe ocтaльныe ничeгo нe видeть.
Beздe ocтaльныe, читaя тeкcт, видят тoлькo тeкcт и бoльшe ничeгo.
Translation:
Tell me, have you heard of such a phrase as "reading between the lines"?
Naturally.
It is quite natural for you.
But it turns out that only our(Russian) people are capable of reading between the lines.
Tell me, when you're reading fiction, do you have a picture in front of your eyes?
It is quite natural for you.
But in a world no one else pictures anything in front of their eyes when reading a text.
This is a figurative\imaginative way of thinking, peculiar only to our people.
To see images where others see nothing.
Everywhere else, when reading the text, they only see the text and nothing more.
Russians think they can read between the lines because they're seeing double from all the vodka.
>>7976104
true
Noticed that there is something written behind her:
"Holy Russia"
"95%"
"5%"
(maybe talking about population proportions world vs Russia. Which is wrong then, because it is 98 to 2 currently.)
"RITA principle."
(basically, theory about human telegony with a twist about preserving Aryan-Slavic race)
Hi there, /lit/izens. Recently I got pulled into Albert Camus' works and while I love most of what I understand in his books and essays, I don't necessarily know how to pronounce the French names he uses. How do I pronounce Meursault? I somehow got used to reading it in my head like how I would read any word in my language (that would be 'ma-ur-suh-ult'), but I think that if I were to recommend somebody the books or just use it as an example on the finals that I will be taking in a week or so - pronounciating it this way would be an overkill. So - how do I French? How do I pronounce Rieux or Meursault or Jean-Baptiste Clamence?
Also, I apologise in advance for my English or if I remember the names wrongly. I am neither a native English speaker nor have I ever learned French.
google it
you can google the pronunciation of anything and hear a voice speak it
>>7976072
I don't trust those automatic mechanical voices though.
>>7976066
Meursault=merr- soh if I remember correctly
Not sure about the others
ITT: Recommend best true crimes books.
Zodiac was good
Helter Skelter
Other books by Graysmith are pretty alright. The Amerithrax one I remember liking.
>>7976075
Yeah.
>>7976082
I have read some other stuff on Manson and know a lot on the whole Manson Family ordeal. Is Helter Skelter worth the read?
Is it a bad idea to read two books at once? I am in the middle of Moby Dick, but just got Lolita in the mail.
Quit reading Moby Dick and read it when you feel ready. You won't be able to put down Lolita anyways.
>>7976059
I usually read 3-4 books at once. Only one novel though. The others are usually psychology, philosophy, or education books.
It's a bad idea to read two books that are similar to each other. Everything I've read recommends reading things in different genres, be it fiction & non-fiction or fictional drama and comedy. Otherwise you'll get burned out.
Who is the meme trilogy's best meme character?
Michael Pemulis, Pig Bodine, or Buck Mulligan?
Mario
>>7976090
yikes bad taste
>>7976126
Oh, 'meme character', my bad; I didn't register it after the first use of the word in OP. I shall waste no time in amending my reply.
>there's a 14 years old boy in TBK who read some books which he inherited from his father
>his favourite activities are trolling peasants at the marketplace and shitposting irl about science and atheism
>he says to his goddamn 11 years old friend: "I am a socialist."
Dostoevsky, you fucking memster. Also, this is one of the few parts which are actually enjoyable.
Yeah, TBK is a solid album m8, but I prefer the Great Annihilator
>>7976057
Both Swans' best but I think that due to their difference in styles, they're sorta incomparable desu
Why do youngsters like biographical criticism and interpretation so much? Because it is the easiest? How much value do you feel there is in biographical analysis?
because it's what's taught at school and it's easy and it's generally how society thinks about artists, writers, musicians etc
there can be some interest, but it's far too limiting and can be done at the expense of more interesting analysis
Please no spoilers, other got removed cause it wasn't literature even though the mod post states books are aloud. Anyway welcome back to the land of Demigods.
>>7975990
It probably got deleted because books like these aren't taken seriously here and are generally only mentioned in hate or nostalgia threads.
>the more you know
>>7975990
Just because something is a book doesn't mean it is literature, and the Percy Jackson series is not literature. Please delete this and stop posting.
>>7976005
Read the mods thing man. It literally says books are aloud!
Do you need to have a good idea of what to write about when you begin, or do ideas come to you while you write?
>>7975923
came here to click on that picture
Both.
>implying I can write
>implying I can have ideas
most /lit/ books in public domain?
>>7975849
The Greeks
Jamba Joyce
The Metamorphosis
what does /lit/ think of him?
>>7975838
I don't.
I can come up with themes, general situations or abstract ideas for stories, but not with plots. Anyone else feels the same?
>>7975828
>writing for plot
>>7975828
>Plots
They're a construct. Just look at Dostoevsky
>>7975828
Not saying that some author's don't start with plot, but I think more often they begin with characters.
From the Preface to Portrait of a Lady:
Trying to recover here, for recognition, the germ of my idea, I see that it must have consisted not at all in any conceit of a "plot," nefarious name, in any flash, upon the fancy, of a set of relations, or in any one of those situations that, by a logic of
their own, immediately fall, for the fabulist, into movement, into a march or a rush, a patter of quick steps; but altogether in the sense of a single character, the character and aspect of a
particular engaging young woman, to which all the usual elements of a "subject," certainly of a setting, were to need to be super added. Quite as interesting as the young woman herself at her
best, do I find, I must again repeat, this projection of memory upon the whole matter of the growth, in one's imagination, of some such apology for a motive. These are the fascinations of the
fabulist's art, these lurking forces of expansion, these necessities of upspringing in the seed, these beautiful determinations, on the part of the idea entertained, to grow as tall as possible, to push into the light and the air and thickly
flower there; and, quite as much, these fine possibilities of recovering, from some good standpoint on the ground gained, the
intimate history of the business--of retracing and reconstructing its steps and stages. I have always fondly remembered a remark
that I heard fall years ago from the lips of Ivan Turgenieff in regard to his own experience of the usual origin of the fictive picture. It began for him almost always with the vision of some person or persons, who hovered before him, soliciting him, as the active or passive figure, interesting him and appealing to him just as they were and by what they were. He saw them, in that fashion, as disponibles, saw them subject to the chances, the complications of existence, and saw them vividly, but then had to
find for them the right relations, those that would most bring them out; to imagine, to invent and select and piece together the situations most useful and favourable to the sense of the
creatures themselves, the complications they would be most likely to produce and to feel.
"To arrive at these things is to arrive at my story," he said, "and that's the way I look for it."
What is the most immersive and encroaching book you ever been absorbed into?
>>7975811
Slaughterhouse Five lmao
gOOSEBUMPS gIVE yOURSELF gOOSEBUMPBS.
yOU HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES SO THE IMMERSION IS VERY BELIEVABLE
Honestly, the Game of Thrones series. Kind of like how junk food is designed to make you want to eat it. It's like watching TV except with words and paper. No mental exertion required. One of the few books I could forget about time reading.