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In what order should I read Plato's Complete Works?
I was thinking

Euthyphro
Meno
Apology
Crito
Phaedo
The Republic

What do you think?
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Read his letters first then read in chronological order.
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hi /lit/, what should i have for breakfast before reading Ulysses? what clothes should I wear while I read and which direction should I face? I was thinking south east

what do you think?
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>>7968267
you should always face east while reading ulysses what are you some king of plebfag?
>>7968255
read Republic first and Timaeus last. Other than that, the order doesn't matter.

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Help brehs. What writer, contemporary or classical, has the comfiest descriptions of Nature?

I just wanna read about green grass swaying in the valley breeze under the shady, white mountain peaks as the low red sun crests towards its rest.
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>>7967483
Jorge Isaacs - Maria
Vladimir Nabokov - Lolita
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>>7967483
Growth of the soil by hamsun
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>>7967483

You might like Thomas Hardy. I enjoyed the nature depiction in Return of the Native far more than the characters or plot.

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Thoughts?
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>>7997012
It has 4 stars on goodreads so I say go for it. Can't do much wrong.
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>>7997012
Prescient about the growing gender and religious divide
Didn't really touch on the growing class divide iir, but that's long been a foregone conclusion for some time now
Missed the growing racial divide
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>>7997014
it's a feminist book. written by a woman. I wonder why it has 4 stars on goodovaries

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>getting near the end of the book, last 20 pages
>nothing has been resolved yet
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stay hyped, friendo
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>>7996936
the ending is great holy fuck
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>>7996941
what book?

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>born in 1992
>already interviewed by the paris review

so when do we all start killing ourselves?

http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2016/05/03/the-state-of-the-political-novel-an-interview-with-edouard-louis/
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Looks like a saucy twink. I bet if you placed your warm palm on his bare chest and pushed him backward onto your bed, he'd press back at first, fighting you a little, staring into your eyes half-curiously, but then when you ran your fingertips down his stomach slipped them beneath his belt, he'd do whatever you want.
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>>7996442
Go on.
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>tfw gotten a few short stories published but nothing else

This just makes me want to work harder. I'm not going to let this little twink beat me.

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From a literary perspective, which Church is better: Roman Catholic or Orthodox?
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>>7996244
RUSSIAN ORTHODOX
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>>7996244
Definitely Orthodox. Bigger underdogs, better reading material, the message hasn't been cucked to appeal to a mass-market
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>>7996244
>respecting any aspect of the Roman Church

Anyone that says shit like this is instantly regarded as completely ignorant. Research the history of the Roman church, every day stain on Christianity is from them. They are 100% pure evil.

What substances help inspire your creativity, /lit/?
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hallucinogens work well I heard but they wont magically make you a good writer
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coffee, but thats just because I'm tired all the damn time and can't function without it.
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>>7995947
If you grant me that anything which is good is a derivative of God, and by extension a substance provided by and of God, and so God in some way is a substance of His own in some way, I would say God.

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I'm jelly of Americans who had to read this for school. You fuckers have access to some pretty good-tier literature very early on. Just read this book today in one reading and it was post-worthy.
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Read it in grade 9. Good book.
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I got a C for insisting that Jack was the true hero and all the other boys insisting on conforming to liberal democratic standards of behavior were the villains.
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>>7995439
Imagining a fourteen year old writing that, turning in that essay, and arguing with the teacher for screwing him with the grade is hilarious whether you agree with those views or not

Sci-Fi is a different genre edition

Fantasy chart :
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/3v2oXAY.jpg
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg


Post your Top 3 Fantasy books!
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delete this
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>>7995039
delete this
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mods, please delete my post

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Okay il/lit/erati, I am a resident Stirnerfag and I decided to make this general because I'm seeing multiple Stirnerthread at the same time and I don't want to repost my answer, so here goes the answer to 70% of your questions:

>why is X not a spook?
X doesn't meet the formal requirements: spook doesn't simply mean "not true" or "made up", but specifically a concept that exerts authority over the internal desires of the individual. The concept of "free will" does not seem to be capable of doing this.
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>>7994898
>mfw avoiding self-sacrifice at all costs is a spook
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>>7994898

Is consumerism a spook?
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are you saying that if a concept agrees with the internal desires of the individual it is not a spook? or is it just a spook you are using to your advantage?

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let's write a novel one sentence at a time. I'll start.

chapter 2. somewhere in the middle.

"Mr partridge what on earth are you doing", he shrieked as he lunged for his glasses to have a closer look.
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>>7994772
Mr. Partridge had unflinchingly battered his testicles so fiercely with his steady, open palm that it was hard to tell how long he'd been at it.
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"Mr. Partridge, are you battering my testicles, or your own?" "I don't even know anymore," Mr. Partridge said as he took another hit off his glass pipe.
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With forthright elegance he tamped the subsiding embers into his distended and blistered foreskin with his thumb he caught a glimpse of his watch and knew he would have to turn up to class soon.

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ITT: we draw inspiration from the current US elections.

I took Carly Fiorina's creepy poem/song she wrote for Cruz' children:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5By5FNb4ldA

and added four more verses:

>I gently push the children's bedroom door
>tip toe softly 'cross the bedroom floor
>bend over the bed with silent cheer
>motionless until the dawn draws near

>the games we play are good old harmless fun
>my hands are claws, I roar and children run
>but when they come back for a treat or two
>they love me better than no matter who

>but time will come when playtime has to end
>you'll leave me, drive away around the bend
>at first I'm sad but then I realize
>you each forgot a toy, oh what a prize

>and when I hold your toys so very tight
>my teeth will shine, my eyes turn very bright
>because you're never really far away
>and children playing tend to go astray
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This election is going to make an incredible book one day.
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>>7991646
it lacks pokemon and pizza
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>>7991646
whoever wins, future generations will look back on this election and ask themselves, "how could such a large and diverse group of people be so unbelievably retarded?"

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Poetry Critique Thread, Ill start:

To see the world beyond today,
The bloom of future flowers.
But with it comes the voice to say,
"I count your life in hours".

World and sky
The summers die
Your youth; your youth: It cowers.
Be not shy,
And save a sigh
Let time not posses those powers.
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dump bump
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there's a critique thread right here you bum

>>7962381
>>7962381
>>7962381
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http://postmetakolsti.tumblr.com/post/143759456465/its-349-am-and-i-guess-thats-implicit

Type a word you like that seems to define itself simply by its utterance. I'll start:

Voluptuous
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cock
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>>7990244
dry
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>>7990244
Inguinal

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Why exactly does Kant take human reason as this entirely homogeneous thing that we have in common and that we can more or less be "solved" in its entirety (for the latter claim see the appendix to the Prolegomena, "Proposal for an investigation of the Critique, after which the judgment can follow" in which he says, regarding metaphysics, "...especially since the science concerned is of such a peculiar kind that it can be brought all at once to its full completion, and into a permanent state such that it cannot be advanced the least bit further and can be neither augmented nor altered by later discovery (herein I do not include embellishment through enhanced clarity here and there, or through added utility in all sorts of respects): an advantage that no other science has or can have, since none is concerned with a cognitive faculty that is so fully isolated from, independent of, and unmingled with other faculties”
What I most strange is his claim that the transcendental (or rather, transcendental concepts) is (are) required because this thing that he calls “reason” calls for it (them) itself and can only be satisfied by it (them).
See the paragraph that starts with (book linked in reply)
>It is true: we cannot provide, beyond all possible experience, any determinate concept of what things in themselves may be. But we are nevertheless not free to hold back entirely in the face of inquiries about those things; for experience never fully satisfies reason...
This justification of why we need concepts beyond experience hinges on the reader, well, giving a fuck. He even, defends the existence of metaphysics by placing emphasis on the fact that people can’t help but think about those questions due to their psychological make up:
>We have thus fully exhibited metaphysics in accordance with its subjective possibility, as metaphysics is actually given in the natural predisposition of human reason, and with respect to that which forms the essential goal of its cultivation
>Metaphysics, as a natural predisposition of reason, is actual, but it is also of itself (as the analytical solution to the third main question proved) dialectical and deceitful.
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He, perhaps inadvertently, even himself makes a case for scepticism when he says:
>the demand that the attempt at such a critique which is now before the public be subjected to an exact and careful examination does not seem unreasonable – unless it is considered more advisable still to give up all claims to metaphysics entirely, in which case, if one only remains true to one’s intention, there is [4:372] nothing to be said against it
Clearly, he does not have people in mind who, well, do not give a fuck and would be totally fine not making any claims about metaphysical things about which they agree with him that, we cannot know anything about them.
My question being, is Kant’s way of thinking not thoroughly unconvincing for someone who well, doesn’t really have this craving of reason? Does he really think everyone has this spirit of inquiry?
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>>7990199
>Why exactly does Kant take human reason as this entirely homogeneous thing that we have in common and that we can more or less be "solved" in its entirety
He either didn't properly understand Plato or he was a low empathy autist.

Possibly both.
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He does defend the possibility of metaphysics at all saying:
> Fortunately, it happens that, even though we cannot assume that metaphysics as science is actual,we can confidently say that some pure synthetic cognition a priori is actual and given, namely, pure mathematics and pure natural science; for both contain propositions that are fully acknowledged, some as apodictically certain through bare reason, some from universal agreement with experience (though these are still recognized as independent of experience). We have therefore some at least uncontested synthetic cognition a priori, and we do not need to ask whether it is possible (for it is actual), but only: how it is possible, in order to be able to derive, from the principle of the possibility of the given cognition, the possibility of all other synthetic cognition a priori.
But then, this entire argument once again rests on people actually granting apodictic certainty to certain claims, not so convincing for the sceptic.

Also, this is the book this all taken from: strangebeautiful.com/other-texts/kant-prolegomena-cambridge.pdf

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