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Sorry, formative.
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she looked like a camel so i guess it's a little loss unless you like dem camels

also she died several days ago you are not very fast
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>>8035597
Is this book any good? I have an electronic version of it I may dip my dick into
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>>8035616
I only saw a notice tonight, and if it was posted here, I missed it.

>>8035629
It has some interesting characters and ideas that I can still recall years later, if that counts. And I remember there being some lol moments. I don't know how well it has aged.

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>picked up a book of Rilke's poems
>some of it filled me with emotions and it made me uncomfortable
>i began to tear up
>put it down and decided I should only read this on special occasion.

Anyone else strangely moved by specific authors or pieces? Does anyone else avoid stuff like this?
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>>8035563
Nah I don't actually like reading that much. I just read memes to impress girls and my dumb friends and enjoy shitposting and posting retarded memes on /lit
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ur gay
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>>8035569
Seconding this.

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Wall of text:
Plato describes the man set out on one common goal as coming closest to fulfilling his purpose in the perfect state. In his perfect state, which is just an allegory for the soul, a farmer wouldn't also be a blacksmith for instance. If you've never read Plato its pretty much like this. The soul is divided into three parts; spirit, appetite, and reason; each which must be directed to its proper place in the constitution of the individual in the way in which he conducts his actions. He uses logic to presume that since these parts are found in the soul they should also be found in the state, since the state has its origin in the individual and should thus be a reflection of him. So the state (composed of a part for its reason,the rulers, a part for its spirit, the guardians, and a part for its appetite, the commonwealth) functions best when every part is directed to where it naturally belongs.
This idea of purpose Plato discusses always stood out to me in his works. If you're meant to fulfill your purpose or be the best you could possibly be at something you have to directed everything towards it so you become one man instead of several. I've always found this idea fascinating and am wondering if there are other philosophers who touch on this idea. I have a choice between physics and English, which I want to peruse for a focus of study. I see them as opposite ends of a spectrum in what they resemble. Physics is mathematical and much more strictly logical than English. English, while logical in terms of language, is much more about creativity and what you bring to the picture. (I'm sure theres a specific word/distinction between these two things which I'm missing) To major in physics would make me more mathematical and logical and less creative in terms of English. Each requires to be a different type of thinker is what I'm trying to say, and since I have a choice in which to dedicate myself to I'm deciding what type of thinker I will make of myself. When I say this I don't mean only in terms of college education. To dedicate myself to something means dedicating every moment, every thought, and every motivation towards understanding it. If you want to be really great at something like writing every second you don't put into thinking about how you can create better is a waste. Einstein did this with physics. Many of his thought experiments concern ordinary things like trains and clocktowers and elevators because he was always thinking about physics in relation to everything, always putting every fiber of his being into understanding and always asking questions about everything he saw. This is what I want to do with a study. So what do you think is more fulfilling, physics or English? Also what other philosophers touch on this model of purpose?
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Too long duuuuuuuude
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>>8035524
The painting reminds me of fruity pebbles.

I suggest you take the physics route.

"A farmer wouldn't also be a blacksmith"
This statement is not allegorical.
It means quite literally what it said.

Go study physics bud.
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>>8035524
Purity of heart is to will one thing, bubba.

THE GOOD!

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thomas pynchon is in this photo
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i always knew no mere human could possibly write such masterpieces.
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Proof? Context?
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Where?

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What are you currently reading? How do you like it?
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finished part I of crime and punishment last night, it's getting super crazy
love it so far
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>>8035136
Just finished Dubliners
The ending hit hard.
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>>8035136
Heart of Darkness. It is very tense. I like it so far.

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So Allen Ginsberg was a paedophile? Apparently he was a member of NAMBLA and supported the rights of men to have relationships with young boys. That's pretty fucked up, he was always my least favourite Beat writer anyway. Opinions?
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>>8035118
are you a woman? if you are a man, why do you try to undermine your own rights to have sex with whoever you please? are you a cuck?
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>>8035118
Dunno lol maybe
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Are you the one that keeps making threads about him?

Read him, make up your own mind, then report back.

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do we have any classics major or classical aesthetics student here?

i want to ask a few questions.
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Classics graduate here, ask away.
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>>8035034
ok, here they are:

(1) how does brill's companions compare to cambridge/oxford ones?

(2) this one is a bit specific: is halliwell 'aesthetics of mimesis' the best work out there on mimesis (and explaining its telos)?

(3) any good resources to find the essential bibliography (or criticism) to works/authors other than companions?

(4) 'dianoia' [thought] in poetics can be referred as 'logic' [in the sense of informal logic] too?
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>>8035061

>(1) how does brill's companions compare to cambridge/oxford ones?

I have no idea. I've never used Brill's or Oxford. The Cambridge ones that I've encountered have been very good. But I'm just a dilletante with a public sinecure and the time to keep reading the stuff, I'm no Scholar. I buy OCTs and find old public domain commentaries online.

>(2) this one is a bit specific: is halliwell 'aesthetics of mimesis' the best work out there on mimesis (and explaining its telos)?

I have no idea.

>(3) any good resources to find the essential bibliography (or criticism) to works/authors other than companions?

Companions would seem the best place to start.

>(4) 'dianoia' [thought] in poetics can be referred as 'logic' [in the sense of informal logic] too?

What does that even mean?

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ITT: Authors you would travel back in time to assassinate before they could publish anything
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>>8034474
this
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The correct answer.

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What is your favorite book of the Bible?
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>>8034226
Ecclesiastes, Proverbs, Isaiah, Lamentations, the Gospels.
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>>8034226
Acts and Proverbs are the first to come to mind.
I also really like the Pentateuch
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>>8034226
Psalms.

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Make an ordered list of the books in your backlog and roll to see the book that you'll be reading next.

I'll start.

0. Infinite Jest
1. The Book of Disquiet
2. Light in August
3. The Sound and the Fury
4. The Importance of Being Earnest
5. The Castle
6. Dubliners
7. The Myth of Sisyphus
8. East of Eden
9. On the Road
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0. The Tunnel (re-re-read)
1. The Tunnel (re-re-read)
2. The Tunnel (re-re-read)
3. The Tunnel (re-re-read)
4. The Tunnel (re-re-read)
5. The Tunnel (re-re-read)
6. The Tunnel (re-re-read)
7. The Tunnel (re-re-read)
8. The Tunnel (re-re-read)
9. The Tunnel (re-re-read)
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>>8034006

Thank god I didn't get infinitely meme'd this time
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>>8034006

how have you not read these books yet? just start reading or something?

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Was Heidegger an über-autist for hating small talk?

"...[B]y its very nature, idle talk is a closing off since it omits going back to the foundation of what is being talked about. This closing off is aggravated anew by the fact that idle talk, in which an understanding of what is being talked about is supposedly reached, holds any new questioning and discussion at a distance because it presumes it has understood and in a peculiar way it suppresses them and holds them back."
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>>8033881
Heidegger was an insufferable sperglord in general, there's good arguments on how one should deal with small talk but his is not one.
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Nothing wrong with being an uber-autist. He's done more for the world than you ever will.
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>>8033881
No he's pretty correct. He's not saying to avoid communication, he's saying to avoid trite communication.

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>mfw driving 100 miles to steal a copy of Women and Men at a uni
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kek. Godspeed, anon.
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just wacked off all fucking morning, no regrets
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OP here. So the copy is actually in a "special collections" part of the library. I'm not sure what this means and whether or not I will be actually able to take the book. I'm also not a student so I'm sure they're gonna ask for a student ID.

any advice? do i just rush in bank robber style?

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why can't America produce good philosophy?
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>>8033109
>that image
Wew
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Too buzy making money I guess. Not even american.
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found the continental :)

go back to your mystical and criptolanguage babble

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HOW TO GET PUBLISHED IN 2016:

1. Read everything in sight- the classics, post modernism, poetry, etc.
2. Now, work on your writing. Practice, practice practice. Develop a style.
3. Organize your ideas... Begin writing.
4. Make sure your story involves romance, elements of Greek tragedy, somewhere a Byronic hero, and most importantly- something of political significance...tie in Marxism, and be sensational about it.
5. Now, you're ready for the final step. You will transition to female- mtf trans.

There is no way that you wouldn't get published or at least get attention and scholarship offers from ivy league universities. Just an idea for you impoverished and desperate anons.
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>>8032799
this is million dollar info.
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>>8032799
Is it ok if I skipped straight to step five?
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>>8032982
yes- you can get accepted to any university

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If the bible is the literal word of God, then why does God have so many writing styles?
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>>8032440
God working through the Authors, God the Holy Spirit, working through many different authors over many different generations.

Each author was a different person so obviously each of their writing styles, genres, subject matter, etc would come out.

Also, it is not the "literal" word of God in the sense that everything must be taken literally, when Jesus spoke of a mustard seed moving mountains, he didn't mean that literally did he?
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>>8032445
Wouldn't that imply that God then inspired not wrote the Bible?
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>>8032447
Basically, Men wrote the Bible, God worked through man to get it done.

Where do people get the idea God literally wrote the Bible?

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