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What is the best translation of Tao Te Ching?
Or if there is no such thing as the best,then which one do you recommend?
I want to read it english,since it made me feel something so weird.
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>>8029495

>torii
>China

Not that version, Magyaranon.
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>>8029966
Cover doesn't matters as long as the content is fine.
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>>8029966
then which one?

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Name the 3 best books you read that originated in the African continent (north Africa doesn't count)
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who the fuck cares
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Things Fall Apart
Mayombe
Terra Sonâmbula

That was easy, boy.
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>>8029233
Palm-Wine Drinkard
Seasons of Migration to the North
Collected Plays of Wole Soyinka

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so why haven't you read one of the funniest books of all time yet?
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Too hard 4 me
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>>8029133
it's honestly not that hard. if you can read Ulyssess and gravity's rainbow it should be easy.
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>>8029134
>if you can read Ulyssess and gravity's rainbow
I can't

What are some essential books about music?

I think I should tell you guys that I'm not some moronic shitposter from /mu/, in order to ensure that this thread isn't derailed by discussion of that board.
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The Oxford History of Western Music by Richard Taruskin
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>>8029210
Great shit, but utterly fucking ridiculous to try to buy though. Get from a library.

OP, also check out Music in the Castle of Heaven by John Gardiner.
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>>8029281
There are also other ways you can obtain it...

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>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/3v2oXAY.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/

>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ / http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/
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First for Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser.
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>>8028907
I should read the final one where they die
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Ok, some guy from the last thread told me to summon 'Marc', so uh, here I go.

Is there any good chapter to chapter summaries of Book of the New Sun that only contain information pertaining that chapter, and don't spoil the rest of the book? Something to read after reading the book chapter primarily.

Hi, /lit/, I'm coming to the end of my first year in university and I want to keep on reading, actively, during the summer. I was considering writing up a programme for reading certain marxist and communist texts and then convening once a week discuss what we've read.
Is anybody interested?

TL;DR; I wanna read some marxist and communist texts and discuss it with other anons. Are you interested?
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>>8028641
>wasting time on a broken system
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>>8028641
There's already something similar to this on /leftypol/ but I can see why you'd want to do this here.
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>>8029259
>Broken
>Not saying capitalism is broken

Haha okay, friend :^>

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I'm trying to compile a list of the best and most important writers of both modernism and postmodernism.

Modernism-
Joyce
Proust
Eliot
Pound
Faulkner
Hemingway
Fitzgerald
Stein
Yeats
Stevens
Beckett
Barnes
Conrad
Williams
Woolf
Auden
Borges
Cummings
Crane

Postmodern-
Gaddis
Gass
DeLillo
Pynchon
Wallace
Burroughs
Calvino
McElroy
Roth
Heller

Who am I missing? I know I have huge gaps in poetry and plays.
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me
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>>8028580
What you're missing:

Modernism:
Ford Maddox Ford
Thomas Wolfe
Flann O'Brien
Hermann Broch
Thomas Mann
Franz Kafka
[Insert name of someone I haven't heard of here]

Postmodernism:
John Barth
Donald Barthelme
Robert Coover
Raymond Federman
Alexander Theroux
Ronald Sukenick
D. Keith Mano
John Hawkes
Gilbert Sorrentino
Stephen Dixon
David Markson
Harry Mathews
Arno Schmidt
Raymond Queneau
Georges Perec
Jacques Roubaud
Gil Orlovitz
William T. Vollmann
Roberto Bolano
A.G. Porta
Thomas Bernhard
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>>8028586
this

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>I went to the zoo once and saw this thing they call an anteater. That was quite enough for me.

Did he really say that? I always thought it was a /lit/ meme.
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No, he's pretty mad people call him a recluse
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>>8028321
Then were does this come from? Just lit?
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>>8028316
I don't get it. What's so bad about an anteater?

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ITT: greentext the last book you read and others guess what it is.
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Mein gott, she could kill me in seconds. Does anyone get turned on at the thought of this girl wrestling you down and then using her strength and technique superiority to smother your face with her breasts while teasing you and laughing?
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please post this kind of stuff elsewhere
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>be me
>be an artist
>out of ideas
>go to a new place to clear my head
>immediately fall for this qt 3.14
>she's literally everything to me, all i ever think about is her
>take care of her younger sisters, get to know her pretty well
>she's promised to marry some fucking normie chad
>go away for a while
>all i can think about is her
>come back
>fuck this, one of us has to die
>decide to kill myself
>share a really passionate moment with qt
>goodbye guys, time to die.

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>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?

>The war that Tolkien wrote about was a war for the fate of civilization and the future of humanity, and that’s become the template. I’m not sure that it’s a good template, though. The Tolkien model led generations of fantasy writers to produce these endless series of dark lords and their evil minions who are all very ugly and wear black clothes. But the vast majority of wars throughout history are not like that.

>'But if you’re going to write about war, and you just want to include all the cool battles and heroes killing a lot of orcs and things like that and you don’t portray [sexual violence], then there’s something fundamentally dishonest about that.

So why do you shit on gurrm so much? He sounds like a very wise fellow and a lot better than Tolkien

inb4 >genre fiction fags
Go read your dead greeks from a bygone age and see how much wiser you get
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>>8027822
Interesting though not exactly original observations from someone who certainly knows what they're talking about, considering Martin is considered the current grandmaster of medieval fantasy.

That doesn't make him smarter or better than Tolkien. You have to remember Tolkien was writing about myth, but Martin is writing within a ghetto that was formed in a large part due to Tolkien's writings.
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>>8027822
The more I see this fat faggot the more I hate him.
Tolkien wasn't a "Dark Fantasy" writer.
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>>8027846
That's because there wasn't such a thing as dark fantasy, let alone fantasy, before tolkien. Before him there were folktales and myths

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Franz Kafka
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Wilfrid Georg you quit stalking young men already
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>>8027562
OH-ly shit!
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T'S GONNA FREAK

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Why didn't you guys tell me how good Rumi was?
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What're you reading, OP?

I've always avoided Rumi because fat old bags who led real happy lives love dropping him as another piece of their texture-lives, discarded on a bedside table while they fuck hundreds of men in the gold light of the 60's-today.
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I have a bunch of his books my dad gave me, I remember reading a few poems and liking them. He's probably considered pleb-tier around here though.
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>>8027563
>He's probably considered pleb-tier around here though.
Most threads about him have been positive up until this point but now that you have insinuated that it might be pleb-tier to like him, /lit/ will have to pretend to hate him.

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Hey, I'm a Ukrainian and as of late my solitude has gotten to the point where all I can think of is committing suicide. I wish I began learning English long before I was even in my teens, but in truth be it said I've been dabbling this shit only for 3 years now, I am 22, and as yet didn't succeed in the slightest. Still my expectations of being able to read Moby-Dick or Charls Dickens' works are pretty high. Unfortunately I don't have friends I could share my interests with. No one wants to talk to me once having found out how bad my English is in reality, when I talk rather than write, though I, on my part, too am not so interested in conversing with normies from /soc/ (Oh god, what has become of 4chan lately). All the people I could talk with are seemingly myself, myself and once again myself. Not because of my contemptuous attitude towards them, but rather due to their own reluctance. Perhaps I might find someone here? Anyone? I know I'm not a good companion and am rather a bore, but if someone agrees to be my literary friend I'd be so glad befriending you. Maybe we could even read together (it would be real pain in the ass for you, though, I know). That said, I'd love to read about your own experiences of reading literature in a foreign language, and if you have some really useful tips on the topic, please write about them below. My skype is guy.poor . Sorry for bad grammar, I haven't got around to it yet.
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>>8026744
If you haven't noticed, literally all of /lit/ is slavs, including me. IRL Ukraine(Kiev at least) is full of ex-intelligenzia, who would gladly talk to you about Joyce and Wallace and other memes. Of course, they are degenerates, so it would probably make you even more miserable.

Also English is extremely simple. Just stop sucking dick and making excuses and learn it.
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There is a tiny chat for /lit/, it is called 4chanlit (just search the room on ths website). We'd ocasionally talk, read stuff and share poems, music and books. Sadly most of the users are busy lately and we are seldom grouped. But if you sit on the room someone will eventually appear and it can get 7 guys or so. Btw n the weekends you have more people.
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>>8026813
>Also English is extremely simple
It fact it is, to my understanding, the most primitive language I have ever tried to learn. Very dry and ineloquent.

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His argument for the Ego not being a spook is literally Descartes rehashed. How is /lit/ so stupid?
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Descartes is correct.
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Even if he's wrong about that, he does have a lot of insightful things to say. And he doesn't advocate for living totally without spooks, he just wanted people to be aware of their existence.
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Doesn't Zizek basically say the same thing in a different way?

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I honestly can't decide whether or not the writing in this is good or terrible.

Is this on purpose?
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>Is this on purpose?
Well, that is the gorillion dollar question, is it not?
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>falling for authorial intent meme
>falling for corncobs yecarthy's hackery

wew
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>>8025854
It is indeed on purpose.

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