Sticking to English, French, and German, which language has the best poetry, the best philosophy, and the best novels?
>>8033327
English by a wide margin.
English
t. Frenchman
German for all three
I'm too cynical.
Which books will make me hate people less?
commence with the hellenes
>>8033011
Plutarch's Lives
The Gospel of Matthew
Novels by Graham Greene and Willa Cather
>>8033011
Life an User's Manual- Georges Perec
Languagelearner here,
What are the major western/European languages to learn to get access to the best/most great lit?
So far my list is
>Latin
>Italian
>Greek
>French
>German
>Old Norse
What I missing?
English (though you already know it I guess), Spanish and Portuguese (seriously) and Russian. That'll pretty much give you the whole canon, though there's plenty of great literature in various other European languages.
>Greek
And that should be Ancient Greek specifically.
>>8032527
How did you learn those OP?
>>8032568
o I'm still doing it, but I'm committed.
what made you turn to books?
Most of the book readers ive met fall into these categories:
>ugly book readers
>gay book readers
>no degree compensating readers
>think that they going to get laid because they read readers
>indian self help book readers
no degree compensating reader
I have a business but I am dumb
I'm decent looking, 20 y/o, and majoring in Materials Engineering. I like to read because I enjoy expanding my knowledge and because I have a disposition toward reading/writing for enjoyment.
That being said, I do wish I was slightly better looking.
>>8030240
>That being said, I do wish I was slightly better looking
lol everyone does
What moral system do you follow, /lit/?
confusion and misery
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
Been a good life so far.
My own. I mostly just avoid making an ass of myself unless it furthers some greater end.
Books that changed your life thread
>>8019724
This is the first book that really got me into history. I've learned so much about the world and our past since then. I owe a lot to this book.
>>8019744
goat
Daily reminder if you haven't teleologically suspended the ethical at least twice by the time you're 25 you literally haven't a chance
Literally what?
I thin k I know what you mean. I've done this. Feels good man. Thanks.
>tfw
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/09/05/how-to-be-good
Read this the other day, /lit/. Seems pretty relevant.
Has anyone else noticed metaphysics coming back in a big way over recent years? It's pretty funny (in a smug/spiteful way) to see just how many scientific roads are leading back to the metaphysics from which that field has long tried to divorce itself in the pursuit of empiricism.
Dust off your Kant, dig out your Schopenhauer and reread your Nietzsche.
>>8041798
This is sad, buts its the kind of drivel you'd expect to be shovelled into the trough of whoever the fuck still reads the New Yorker
>>8041798
Whenever I see the phrase "X person is considered to be Y by academics/many people" and there isn't a citation, I get upset.
>>8041821
Hey, it's hardly new; we've had meme scientists like Sam Harris (Ben Stiller) playing around with the same kind of question for ages now.
I'm just happy to see names like Kant even mentioned again, after years of everyone throwing themselves at the feet of 20th century meme philosophers; like 99% of all post-modernists, for a start.
Hey, /lit/ how should I begin to get into literature. I'm not entirely sure how I should start.
step 1. pick up book
step 2. read book
>>8041833
dubs confirm this method
so /lit/ i'm taking a seminar on marxist theory in the fall, what are the essentials of marxist criticism/theory? essentials meaning works, points, ideas, etc.
>>8041579
read marx
>>8041583
prof said we'll also be reading post-structuralist stuff and new historicism so what are some essentials of those?
>>8041579
don't bother, it is total failure and should be disregarded like all idealist philosophies for anything other that historical interest
For someone completely new to this board, name 3 books that you wish they would have read before joining.
the sticky
>>8041524
Ulysses, Infinite Jest, Gravity's Rainbow
Do it for the memes
>>8041539
>Ulysses
Does anyone actually understand that book in all of its complexity? Did Joyce even understand it?
Lawrence frequently uses the semicolon. thoughts?
anyone who uses a semicolon should be put to death
>>8041310
Sounds like he wanted to show he went to college :^)
Lots of writers use semicolons, OP.
> There's no great American novel, they're all severely flawed.
Honestly all the Ameri-hate just comes from the fact we have a vastly different ideology than the rest of the world.
>>8041291
I feel like this is an objectively wrong statement. You can't speak in absolutes when discussing something as subjective as literature, because everyone's opinions are different. But to say that in the last two hundred or so years, no American novel was published that held any merit is a tall order.
There are several traditional, or "meme" answers, like The Great Gatsby, Of Mice and Men, and The Catcher in the Rye. You may disagree with them , but the sheer amount of people who are familiar with these works show their impact on American literature, and indeed literature as a whole.
At the end of the day, a novel doesn't necessarily need to have Byzantine circumstances and Olympian themes to be discussed in a thousand years. To be "great" has to be read by a lot of people. Thats it.
You can't deny, Americans have produced some of the most popular pieces of fiction.
>>8041291
>moby dick
Does anyone have any more plot diagrams like this for books ? Any book is fine but it'd be cool to see other non-linear ones
As nonlinear as it gets.
>>8041222
>>8041169
What the hell man. I read that book cover to cover, endnotes included, and none of those "Post-Ending" things happened apart from the digging (which I thought was a dream). Was I just not paying attention?
Ayo /lit/ what's more important: the ritual or the myth?
Are myths only ad hoc ideological contexts for the development of collective rituals in which individual tensions can be collectively released in a socially acceptable way? Or are rituals only a way to collectively validate a belief system which is needed by each individual due to an essentialy human causal mentality?
I don't expect /his/ to give me a satisfactory answer so I ask yall.
>>8041159
Why must either of these imply a reduction of the other category when they don't conflict?
>>8041175
I mean what goes first?I also think there's harmony between those two functions and institutions, but I want to hear some more opinions
>>8041159
Myths goes first. The reason: Without the phantasm of myth all rituals are obviously pointless and so on and so on...