>We confront a crisis in scale when contemporary works are unable to sustain their ambitions. David Foster Wallace's Infinite Jest is such a work. When I read it in 1996, it had been many years since a young novelist had dared to invest such commitment. Sadly, it did not come off. The result was rather akin to a large penis, impressive at first sight but too big for the blood to create a fully functional erection. Wallace's novel never got more than semistiff.
What's he saying here?
>>8040580
>The result was rather akin to a large penis, impressive at first sight but too big for the blood to create a fully functional erection.
now, he is truly lewd
>>8040580
>The result was rather akin to a large penis, impressive at first sight but too big for the blood to create a fully functional erection. Wallace's novel never got more than semistiff.
I don't think I can believe he wrote that.
What do you recommend?
The crucible
>>8040616
I was so angry at the end of that.
I just finished this book today. It had been on my to-read list for a long time, namely because of /lit/. Gotta trust the hivemind, right? I even read Crime and Punishment in preparation for this. Now I want to discuss the book.
Please give me your thoughts. And please be aware that the thread will havespoilers
First, I thought that thetrial would be a significantly larger portion of the novel.
What is the consensus? What did you think of this book?
When you know who got buried and i knew that was based on Dosto's kid.. The first and only time i've shed a tear over a book.
Also The Inquisitor and the chapter before had me going "OOOOWWW" for like 40 pages on end.
I enjoyed this shit.
Not in the mood to type it all out tho, will return to this thread. Give it's still here by then.
>>8040266
It's an amazing book and my personal favorite. While I am not that religious (I'm probably agnostic on most of my days) I really appreciate Dostoevsky and his views. What I hate with a good part of Christians is that they just accept God because of fear of death or/and some need of justice instead of thinking about it, reading about it etc and then passionately believing. That's why they are disgusting to me. But Dostoevsky was one of those people who you really feel thought about this thing and felt who knows what, and I am glad that he wrote books. The Brothers Karamazov is the most passionate thing I have read, and the book doesn't have a single flaw. There's so much great scenes, and I nearly shed a tear a few times. It's undeniably my favorite book, it's so good that it makes me want to go full Christian.
The only thing that can come near this is Don Quixote.
>>8040266
Which translation did you read: Garnett's, or P&V's? If the latter, at what price and where did you buy it from
Hey /lit/, pic unrelated
so I'm reflecting on some past fiction I've absorbed through various mediums...
Okay, I'll be honest. I just rewatched this clip from Metal Gear Solid 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iC9xpDSXyI
While the game is a stealth/espionage game, this speech by the antagonistic, all-powerful AI reveals that every event was put into motion by them simply to become more effective at controlling data and by extension, human thought.
basically, the game is built around the question: "How much of a human being is defined by information?"
The previous game deals with the question: "How much of a human being is defined by the genes?"
Obviously these are extremely difficult and deep questions to answer, and I am positive that the creator, Hideo Kojima, built games around them as a means of making people (read: young men) think about philosophy.
So, sorry to ramble, but my question is this:
What do you call a work of fiction that asks heavy philosophical questions which humanity might never know the answer to?
It's a dramatic subject, but I think referring to it as "drama" really cheapens the whole thing. In my mind, a "drama" refers to a story that focuses on interpersonal relationships.
So, what the hell do you call these works of fiction? Am I having a total brain fart right now?
The shortest term I can come up with is "philosophical epic".
Please tell me one of you has something better than that.
...should I ask /pol/ instead?
>>8040076
>What do you call a work of fiction that asks heavy philosophical questions which humanity might never know the answer to?
Literature.
>>8040121
Not all literature does this.
You would paint this type of fiction with same brush you use to paint comedies and low drama?
Just finished all the Dresden Files. What does /lit/ think when compared to Harry Potter? I enjoy the way JK Rowling created a whole universe around her wizarding way of life, but I really like Dresden's way of being a wizard in the "real world" and damn the consequences. Thoughts on the better series of the two?
>>8039981
I always thought that Dresden files were /r/books tier. Are they actually decent?
>>8040341
No. This is a troll thread.
I'm looking for literature about women who feel alienated from other women, possibly also men and humanity as a whole. Doesn't matter how they deal with this, whether they are recluses, wanderers or socialites.
"Thinking in Pictures: My Life with Autism" by Temple Grandin
Middlemarch. George Elliot.
>>8039965
megan boyle
Gabriel comes down from God to chat with people in both the Bible and the Qu'ran.
What are some other figures that have a more or less coherent role in multiple different world religions and stories?
Mephistopheles in the Faustian legend.
>>8038276
adam and eve, and noah
>>8038276
King Solomon(Suleiman in Islam)
Post patrician humor books
I laughed a lot in the ending
>>8038146
I went to get this at the library, but they didn't have it.
The loved one by Evelyn Waugh.
if you like stories of cuckoldry, whores and corrupt priests
what have I done? I can't bring myself to watch TV, movies or even play games. I feel as though I'm wasting my time when I do. so I don't. I used to read and also do those things. now all I care about is reading. it's been a year now and I haven't done anything else in my spare time. when my gf watches tv and I actually close my book and tune in, it doesn't feel right. should I even care though? I have shelfs full of movies and games that I don't think I'll ever watch or play. should I sell them? will I ever go back? has this happened to you?
fuck you...kid
>>8038108
polandbananabooks?
blogshit goes on >>>/r9k/
>spend 20 years avoiding Wittgenstein because I think he's some final boss of philosophy
>decide to read up on him this week on a whim
>he was a literal meme retard
>Tractatus was B+ at best, same shit done by a dozen other guys in the 20th century except they actually worked out their ideas instead of just being a trendy celebrity with them
>Investigations is exact same thing, just read Heidegger ten other guys instead
>only a trendy celebrity because horrendous parody-of-themselves-tier analytics like Moore, Russell, Carnap greased the wheels for him to be famous
>would have been nobody if (also a shit hack totally derivative of Frege fuckup moron) Russell hadn't launched him to fame while at the peak of his own fame
>these famous analytics didn't even understand him, even HE thought they didn't understand him
>unpleasant as fuck, just a weird dude who acquired celebrity status
>beat kids constantly, kept beating kids all the time
>may have killed a kid
>every coverage of his """""""""ideas"""""""" is 90% composed of WASN'T HE QUIRKY???
>SO QUIRKY!!!!
>also faggot Cult of Logic & Latter Day Common Sense anglos sucking his dick every time he entered a room
>which was usually followed by him gesticulating and grumbling to no effect, and then they'd scribble down "His ideas come to us as if by revelation. He is a divine god and I want to suck his cock."
>literally a meme
>literally a retard
>just the analytic Slavoj Zizek of a bygone generation
Alright, no more joking around. Analytic philosophy people are fucking morons. Carnap, Moore, Russell, I kept forgiving and forgiving and forgiving you people for worshiping actual autistic children like these fucks, thinking Wittgenstein was going to be some top secret German spice like Frege 2 Electric Boogaloo. And it's just more shit. You are actually all morons.
This isn't banter. If you are an analytic philosopher, or a fan of analytic philosopher, YOU are a MORON.
>>8038006
>He didn't understand Witty
>>8038006
>hasn't mentioned Quine
Sure you are so well read?
>>8038006
>>he was a literal meme retard
I loled
Did Lolita want it?
I'm writer
>what is rape
>>8037445
She didn't not want it.
Lmao
BANANA!!!! AHAHAHAHA!1!
World War II Like You've Never Seen It Before
Enter the Mind of Thomas Pynchon
xD so RANDUMB!!!!111222
Books that depicts boredom, doxa and the mundane?
Also, is it possible to deliberately evoke boredom instantly with an image? (watching something 10 times or for a day doesn't count)
>>8035328
The pale king
>>8035328
Whatever your favourite book is to be quite honest.
>>8035328
Well for one, I find that picture to be incredible interesting.
In every photo that I find on 4chan it's someone trying to relay a message.
b...but this is just well.
It just is.
Thanks op, anon
POST LIT GET HIT
There is only 1 rule in /CRIT/ club: you can only post if you give feedback to another Anon's work or post a link/article related to writing.
I will go first
Here is a simple style guide on writing more concisely.
http://www.writing.utoronto.ca/advice/style-and-editing/wordiness
and something you guys can crit
http://pastebin.com/cy1xYDqu
>>8034758
>There is only 1 rule in /CRIT/ club: you can only post if you give feedback to another Anon's work or post a link/article related to writing.
Or what, are you going to call the cops?
>>8034771
kinda awkward
Post dem stacks
Paid 28 burgerbucks for these.
16 burger bucks
>>8034300
Nice. I definitely got jewed in comparison.
What's the best translation for Ovid's Metamorphoses?