This book blows the tits off Great Gatsby. For a while there I actually thought I didn't like Fitzgerald.
Anymore based Fitz I should read?
>>8031944
All his short stories
fitzgerald always had goatly book covers
>>8031944
"Tender is the Night, magnificient; The Great Gatsby, terrible." - Vlad Nabokov
Though most people do seem to think it's Gatsby or bust, an average writer with a great book. I'll have to check out Tender is the Night.
Why do teenagers at Wattpad always make their main characters "ordinary", as they declare they are? Why even bother reading about the dull and unassuming?They even get published in this shithole country.
>>8031938
her avatar looks wearing a night gown
also what language is it? spanglish?
>>8031946
It's Filipino with a dash of English.
Stories like these are unfortunately everywhere, and publishers actually publish them. And readers actually buy them. And filmmakers adapt them...
> Being paranoid is a good thing. The experience of being paranoid when you smoke weed is to get you to look at yourself. It’s to get you to look at life. You’re not always looking at it as clearly as you could. Those jolts of perception you misinterpret as paranoia, what you’re really doing is just dealing with information that’s already there. – Joe Rogan
I have been thinking about this for a while. Could you recommend literature that is relevant?
>>8031900
Pinecone.
>>8031900
Pinch on's "The crying of Lot 69"
>>8031900
>weed ayy lmao
Fuck off.
Is this a good option to read 'Ulysses' or I just waste money?
Get Oxford's 1922 text; it comes with a lot of extra information like a map of Dublin, explanatory notes, errata, etc.
>>8031906
Oh god, I was reading about which edition is better when I impulsively bought this edition. Bad move.
reposting myself from earlier thread on this exact topic...
the differences are largely academic and completely irrelevant to anyone who is not a serious joyce scholar at a post graduate level
bitching about gabler edition is apparently the "in" thing to do among pretentious pseuds who've never read joyce in their lives, ignore them
...
it's no secret that the original 1922 edition contained a plethora of errors, which joyce then worked with random house to emend for the 1934 us edition, that was later reprinted in 1961 by the modern library and forms the "standard" text
the highly unusual styling of ulysses meant there was copious room for error, esp from the copywriters/typesetters, and it showed aubndantly in 1922. though thousands of errors were corrected by joyce himself in 1934, there were still many more he worked on, and often incldued as errata for later editions before being incorporated into the text. it's not unreasonable at all to think there were still more to come.
general academic consensus today states gabler likely overstepped a bit in his corrections, but it is not at all unreasonable for him to have done what he did. the controversy around the edition is, anyway, largely academic and completely irrelevant to the lay reader, and certainly not to pseuds on /lit/
your copious use of sarcastic quotations and disdain for "academics" reveals your own ignorance on this subject. kindly never post about this topic again.
Do you have to be religious to be an incredible writer?
>>8031641
Are you new? Yes, of course it is.
>>8031661
Of course what is?
>>8031672
IT IS A PIZZA PARTY
Hi /lit/, I have some new OC involving John "The Meme" Green.
I'm the Indianapolis-fag that has posted periodically about encounters with him around town (not stalking, it just seems we frequent the same area).
>be last weekend
>go to a bookstore that I don't normally visit because it's a bit of a drive
>among the few local authors, there is a glass case halfway filled with assorted signed John Green books
>A note on the past: he has purposely released some of his books to bookstores, thousands of signed copies, with the purpose of devaluing signed editions
>back to the bookstore
>$150 price tag
>$150
>Books have dust on them from not moving in so long
If people care, I can Greentext the closer encounters of the YA kind I've had.
>>8031416
>be me at coffeeshop
>we've bumped into each other a handful of times there, but we never talk
>he normally grabs something to go
>one day I'm on my way in as he is leaving
>I hold the door for him because good midwestern boy
>he turns his head to say thank you
>he must have just had a bite of muffin, because he sprays crumbs on my shoulder and lower face
>he says nothing else, but just ducks his head and scurries away down the sidewalk
>mfw
>>8031441
you got crumbed on senpai
>>8031441
>be at big museum exhibition opening party
>little did I know, the John Meme's wife is the curator of the museum
>he's hanging out in a corner sipping his drink, not talking to anyone
>the old wealthy donor types have no clue who he is, so they ignore the guy in the ill fitting blazer and untucked shirt
>his wife stops by the check on him from time to time
>I can't tell what they're saying as a steal glance at them, but it is becoming clear that something is amiss
>eventually he leaves, well before the end of the evening
>notice being a bit more touchy with wealthy donors than she was before
>kek internally
Redpill me on this samurai
>>8031210
He's not a samurai.
Literally who?
>>8031210
I like him.
he's probably not going to be well liked around here.
he uses a lot of odd similes.
and a lot of recurring themes. like a metric FUCK TON of recurring themes throughout his books.
>"Troy" after Schliemann was no longer a dream, but a place on the map.
>As a boy, not long after Schliemann's death, [Joyce] had responded to Lamb's retelling of the story. By 1906 he wanted to write a story of his own, set in Dublin and called "Ulysses." Eight years later he was seriously at work on what he had rethought as a larger project, a book whose hero should move around a single city as Homer's had moved around the Mediterranean.
we're putting together a Ulysses reading group over on /lit/ chat at https://discord.gg/01016TZPAPUILvYGe
we have the #Ulysses channel, and also a #general channel for general literary/off-topic discussions. "/soc/ing" is not a "thing" in this chat if you are worried about that, and we're all fairly decent ppl, so give it a shot at least.
(if you don't have a copy of Ulysses, wow, what a pleb. you can get the epub/kindle version from one of us.)
>ulysses reading group
lol it's gonna fail in a week senpai, no one here reads
Here is the bare minimum need to read before embarking on this odyssey:
A book or two about the discovery of the Aegean civilisations
Detailed history of Ancient Greece
Iliad
Odyssey
Aeneid
Divine Comedy
Linear B Archives
Homeric Hymns
Orphic Hymns
Scholiasts on Homer
Apollodorus
Diodorus
Plato
Aristotle
Presocratics (esp. Heraclitus)
Celtic myths and history
Dubliners
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
>>8031761
>books required for understanding Ulysses
>history of Ancient Greece?
>Ulysses takes place in Dublin? hello?
>no mention of Meme Trilogy books I and II whatsoever
wew OK how about we read this first though and see what happens
https://discord.gg/01016TZPAPULpxT67
Just picked up this bad boy.
What am I in for? Is it deserving of its acclaim, or will I be disappointed?
Balzac's great. Have fun.
>>8030958
This is a really stupid question, but will reading this book make me 'cultured'?
xDDDDDDddd balzak
is catch 22 a meme? where does /lit/ stand on this?
Yes.
It's pretty popular on reddit so I'd say yes.
Not a meme. It's actually good.
I know they were originally lumped together arbitrarily by merit of their supposed "difficulty", but am I the only one that sees the Meme Trilogy as thematically consistent? They're all concerned in some form with what DFW called "regular-guyness". In Ulysses, Joyce takes a mild mannered uninteresting lower-middle class man and makes transcendent art of mundane life. Then in Gravity's Rainbow, Pynchon tells the story of Slothrop, a normal regular dweeb transformed into someone of far greater importance by everyone else's misconceptions of him. And to round it all off, Infinite Jest is about genuinely extraordinary people who are ultimately defeated by their inability to be "normal".
Is that about right?
>reading gravitys rainbow
>reading infinite meme
>he thinks these are about the characters
>>8030807
>arbitrarily
>by merit
LITERATURE STUPID QUESTIONS THREAD
aka LSQT
Come in this thread to ask all stupid questions related to literature! duh
First question is gonna be a classic that I got meme'd on earlier:
Is infinite jest really worth reading? What is it about and does anyone have a link to the pdf?
thanks!
>>8030709
>is it worth reading
The worth of something comes from the individuals view point. You won't know it was or wasn't worth it until you read it.
>>8030709
any books with graphic rape and murder scenes?
>>8030709
>Is infinite jest really worth reading? What is it about and does anyone have a link to the pdf?
By todays /lit/ standards no. Because it got too popular. Anything remotely popular, even in a niche group is bad on /lit/.
It really depends on your taste on books really.
Second, use google or read the sticky stop being a lazy fuck.
Third. We already have a questions that don't deserve their own thread thread (I guess)
>he uses "the book has no character development!" as a critique
I'm not sure if you guys realize this, but most people in real life don't ever change away from their usual nature. Or atleast not like they do in fiction.
Using
>"the book has no character development!"
as a reason why it's bad or unrealistic is contradictory.
It's why I laugh when people complain a villian in a show or something is one dimensional because they don't have a 2deep4u background story. Some assholes are just assholes for the sake of being assholes.
>>8030297
you don't know many human beans, do yo?
>>8030297
Very valid point. This is obvious in many genres of fiction, even in movies and series. An antagonist can't be 'just' an evil person or even someone who is just in it for x (money, power etc.), just like le ebic antihero can't be a hero without having some grave issues in his past. Even in mindless sitcoms, the clown often can't be 'just' a funny guy, but he has to have some childhood trauma that he is surpressing through humour. I hate this kind of pretentiousness.
>>8030331
>human beans
What do you think about Per Petterson, /lit/?
>>8030040
Nothing.
>>8030040
Did you read it? I have it and remember having read some praise about it. So, you tell us what you thought.
>>8030040
Kraftig overvurdert, som det meste av norsk samtidslitteratur fra for Knausgård.
Hey /lit/,
Where can I find a top books list based on user ratings?
i. e. like these
http://www.imdb.com/chart/top
http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart
Only for literature instead of mocies and music
>inb4 sticky, not the same as recommended reading
goodreads?
Those lists are shit and so are book ones
>>8029590
This is correct
Rym has Radiohead and Pink Floyd in the top 3 come the fuck on man get some actual taste