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Is it normal to continue reading young adult books if you're no longer a young adult?
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>>8045596
Its literally normal for adults to buy fucking colouring books these days, normal is nothing respectable
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>>8045596
It's normal, and that's what should distress you.
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"Normal" is a spook.

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I got a gift card for my birthday for amazon for 25 bucks from one of my relatives. I was thinking about getting these books. My one concern, is that while I want a deep and meaningful experience, some of these books will be unreadable. Is there anything you would substitute these with if you are looking for something extremely meaningful, but still readable from cover to cover?
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If Zarathustra is your first Nietzsche, switch it out for The Gay Science.
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Yeah get:
Frege
Russell
Quine
Kripke
Putnam
Searle

I reckon that's a good starter selection.

Don't waste your neetbux on writing that has no meaning
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>>8045418
okay, thank you.

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Are there any other books besides House of Leaves where you have to read the physical version to get the full experience?
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I'd say Hypersphere requires both a physical reading as well as an ebook reading before you can get it all.
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Every book.
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>>8045460
Muh medium

>>8045308
Vollman and Gass

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What is it that makes languages like Latin and Ancient Greek superior?
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>>8045243
Incredible sentence order flexibility, tenses and cases, basically.
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Gendered nouns and adjectives, rich verb inflection and most importantly a fully formed case system make them much superior to English. See also why Russian is one of the best big living languages for literature.
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>>8045248
Care to explain in detail? Why do noun cases make language better? Does it mean that Lithuanian is superior to English then?

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>While listening to the Beatles' "Strawberry Fields Forever" one day, Phil heard the lyrics change into a prophetic warning: "Your son has an undiagnosed right inguinal hernia. The hydrocele has burst, and it has descended into the scrotal sac. He requires immediate attention, or will soon die." Phil rushed him to the hospital and found every word to be true. The doctor scheduled the operation for the same day. Once again, the healing power of Phil's vision comes to the fore. In a sense the boy was "reborn", which was to have great consequences for Phil's subsequent actions.
>Another event was an episode of supposed xenoglossia. Supposedly, Dick's wife transcribed the sounds she heard him speak, and discovered that he was speaking Koine Greek—the common Greek dialect during the Hellenistic years (3rd century BC–4th century AD) and direct "father" of today's modern Greek language—which he had never studied. As Dick was to later discover, Koine Greek was originally used to write the New Testament and the Septuagint. However, this was not the first time Dick had claimed xenoglossia: a decade earlier, Dick insisted he was able to think, speak, and read fluent Koine Greek under the influence of Sandoz LSD-25.
How can we even hope to compete with this?
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This guy had to some serious shit going on which should have been explored in further depth. Anyone have a good book on the life of old mate dick and all his wacky adventures which is worth a read?
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>dude drug addicts are prophets spiritual hogwash is real lmao

Nothing against Dick though. He was a very talented fellow.
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>>8045221
The Exegesis of Philip K Dick

is a whole bunch of collected entries from his diaries collecting these wacky episodes

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How do I into New Sincerity?
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wait 10 more years
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>>8045123
Post anonymously on the internet and express your feelings with drawings of men with cancer and frogs in funny situations
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>>8045132
I unironically enjoy memes to be honest.

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Who is Harold Bloom and why does his opinion matter?
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Harold Bloom (born July 11, 1930) is an American literary critic and Sterling Professor of Humanities at Yale University.[1] Since the publication of his first book in 1959, Bloom has written more than 20 books of literary criticism, several books discussing religion, and a novel. He has edited hundreds of anthologies concerning numerous literary and philosophical figures for the Chelsea House publishing firm.[2][3] Bloom's books have been translated into more than 40 languages.

Bloom came to public attention in the United States as a commentator during the Canon wars of the early 1990s.[4]
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>>8045103
Dunno but he makes funny meme pictures
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He's a big guy

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pic related
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What the fuck, /lit/? Is this book just jibberish or am I a poor reader? Why did you recommend me this? Even /jp/ has better taste.
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You're a poor reader.
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>>8044849
;_;
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It's pretty clear what all of the words in the book mean, IMO.

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>DON'T JUDGE
>meanwhile proceeds to judge others

wew lad
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If you're a bishop you're supposed to pastor the people in your care and reprove them.
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>>8044683
and to fuck little boys from the church chorus
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>>8044685
That's only if you're the heretical Latins.

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Why does /lit/ have such a massive hateboner for this man?
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>>8044669
I don't like him because he distracts new generations from real literature. But then again he's getting young people to read, which is good even though his books aren't.
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>>8044669

https://youtu.be/JgDwaJ0WCVE?t=87

Absolute madman.
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well all i know is what ive heard, that all his major releases have been written by ghostwriters, and that just annoys and pisses me off.

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Natalism is the ultimate failing of the categorical imperative
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*unbalanced natalism
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>>8044424
how come
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What is the categorical imperative?

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Did Socrates have Oppositional Defiant Disorder and if so, should he still be revered?
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>>8044325
Yes. Sooner or later psychology will have a disorder and medication for every personality type.
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>>8044328
ODD is a condition in which a child displays an ongoing pattern of uncooperative, defiant, hostile, and annoying behavior toward people in authority. The child's behavior often disrupts the child's normal daily activities, including activities within the family and at school.

This seems more like a disorder than just a personality and it fits our man to the bone
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The ideal is not social perfection.

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Hello, /lit/ I'm looking for some help with Frege's Sense and Reference.

This bit:

>What is intended to be said by a=b seems to be that the signs or names "a" and "b" designate the same thing, so that those signs themselves would be under discussion; a relation between them would be asserted. But this relation would hold between the names or signs only insofar as they named or designated something. It would be mediated by the connection of each of the two signs with the same designated thing. But this is arbitrary. Nobody can be forbidden to use any arbitrarily producible event or object as a sign for something. In that case the sentence a=b would no longer refer to the subject matter, but only to its mode of designation; we would express no proper knowledge by its means. But in many cases this is just what we want to do. If the sign "a" is distinguished from the sign "b" only as object (here, by means of its shape), not as sign (i.e., not by the manner in which it designates something), the cognitive value of a=a becomes essentially equal to that of a=b, provided a=b is true.
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I don’t get it, if ‘a’ is distinguished from ‘b’, looking at them only as objects and not as symbols how will these objects ever be subjected to a relation of equality? I mean, how can one, going by Frege’s definition of equality, ever imply that “a is the same as b” only looking at a and b as objects (physically presumably), given that as objects they are different (in shape).

If objects are themselves different (due to their shape or whatever reason) why would a statement of equality that expresses proper knowledge ever be made, since, by virtue of the fact that they are different, we perceive them as separate? In general won’t a statement of equality that expresses proper knowledge only be made if those two things were "equal" somehow and given that they are not equal as objects then, they would only ever be equal as signs.

For example, consider the letter 'a' written in Times New Roman and 'a' in Arial. We would say a = a in no other context than that both the ‘a's, as signs, refer to the same referent of 'a' the letter in the English language that is used in words. The ‘a’s then are very much symbols.

How can a statement (using Frege’s example now) such as a=b ever have any cognitive value if a and b are not looked at as symbols and are different as objects?
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>>8044289
>they would only ever be equal as signs.

Should have added a bit here, it seems that in Frege's case a and b are neither the same objects nor are to be looked at as signs, which is why I don't see how he can say that a=bwould have any:

>cognitive value
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Btw I know this is a very small part of the whole shit.

But still, this bit tripped me up and I am curious about what he was trying to say here.

Are there any books that touch on the subject of "celebrity culture" or concept of "idols"? Preferably with a perspective that opposes/condemns it all...
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The Mirror Effect
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thread synthpop theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3AOoGFkeU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOv2JorfCs8

plus acoustic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFHdcQ-2fv8
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>>8044257
>Are there any books that touch on the subject of "celebrity culture" or concept of "idols"? Preferably with a perspective that opposes/condemns it all...

So basically you just want someone to feed you back your opinions? Why waste your time/money? Just sit alone in a corner and think about celebrities you hate.

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