Is this a good place to start with Wittgenstein? Or should I start with another book or another author?
>hairdresser: so what do you want
>wittgenstein: I want the flat top
>hairdresser: got you senpai
he sliced it off with one swipe of his katana
>>8063767
Start with A.J. Ayer - "Language, Truth, and Logic".
No it isn't. That book assumes you've read his prior work.
Best place to start is a contemporary introduction to Philosophy of Language and its history, which will introduce you to a broad range of theories, Wittgenstein's among them (yes, PI was a theory of language despite what some might say; if you talk about something and state that that something is such-and-such then you're basically introducing a theory), concerning the relation between language and the world. Then you can dip into either Tractatus or PI or both. Both books are cryptic as hell so you might as well read some secondary literature first; someone like Hacker will suffice.
Does this book pass the /lit/mus test for a good book?
how many scatological passages does it contain?
>>8063561
Don't you realize that we hate all books here?
>>8063561
One of my all time favorite books!
It has beautiful prose, but /lit/ probably dislikes its message about vilifying a down-to-earthhedonisticlifestyle.
I think I'm Kierkegaard. What should I do
take a leap of faith and fuck off to /soc/
nice hair anon
>>8063422
get some vitamin E you greasy faggot
What are you reading rn /lit/?
Pic related, I'm a little over halfway finished.
how is it? everyone here always says it's terrible
>Aomame spends an entire fall locked in an apartment, where the book becomes her only entertainment. Aomame's days are spent eating, sleeping, working out, staring off the balcony to the city below and the moon above, and slowly reading through Lost Time.
is it as comfy as it sounds?
It's been a while since I've read a book. So, I just want to read a classic that's funny and enjoyable the whole way through.
Could we get some actual moderation on this board, please?
>>8063321
I haven't seen much wrong, what threads do you think should go?
>>8063172
>>8060208
>>8062882
>>8063336
>>8063325
Just a few. Not OP, btw.
>Find an editor
>Works well for the first chapter, immediately drops out
>Get second editor
>Makes it a few chapters longer
>Takes 4 months to do just 6 chapters
>Quits once I finish the rough draft
Holy fuck, what is with editors being so garbage at doing their job? I just need one person to read the whole fucking thing, but they all drop it because of personal shit.
>>8063179
That's a cool picture you have there, lad. Mind if I save it?
>>8063200
you don't want that one. digging the sword into the ground like that would dull the blade.
>>8063179
Editors, especially freelance editors, are a meme. You honestly don't need one. Just proofread your shit a few times and make some changes wherever you think they're necessary. It takes a while to develop a sense for this sort of thing, but after editing a 200+ page book of your own a few times you'll more or less be able to do any editor's job on your own.
Describe picrelated
"help me"
"i can't"
"why"
"i need help myself"
"help me then help yourself"
"okay"
"huuuupmhhhh"
"..."
>>8063169
hold on, i'm melting into the floor.
oh, that's okay, i am too.
hey, i have some candy, want some?
sure.
>>8063169
these women look like
sandals and they are melting
why are they melting?
wtf
why is this in spanish
i bought it in an american bookshop
why is not english
how did you miss the fucking title
>>8063084
Leelo en el idioma original maldito idiota, cuan dificil es aprender otro lenguaje?
>>8063107
>judging a book by its cover
Would you consider this to be the most recent work in the western canon?
>>8062940
no its fucking boring garbage about spitting and riding horses
its not in the canon. it's supermarket genre drivel tier. they're desperately trying to secure a deal to make a movie out of it so they can sell more copies to same type of people who buy dan brown books.
So, /lit/, how does it feel to know that people who can't write for shit will still sell just because they have a pretty face and a well-known surname?
I don't really care.
literature is literature. it's not meant to be good, it's meant to be words
a ghostwriter wrote them a pulpy sci-fi YA novel that flopped, so no. Embarassing trash.
>inb4 they'll be fine, but of course they will
Just finished faust 1&2. What's your personal favorite quotation and what's your interpretation of Faust 2? Also, did Faust win the bet?
Guys? Anyone?
>>8062308
Most people here only reads vapid shit like IJ, Pynchon and Bolaño, anon. Sorry.
>>8062162
ehr, I might get to it, I was intrigued when I skimmed through the first pages once when wasting some time at the Uni library
>got an MEng degree in a """respected""" subject (at least is makes people overrate my intelligence)
>graduated last summer and only had part time jobs since then
>have final round interview for good role at very big and respected company in London
>it's finance related, meaning ultimate wageslavery doing braindead work while living in a cupboard in City 17
>tfw haven't spent all my free time learning to program to make a startup or whatever shit really makes you rich
How the fuck can I cope with this? Wageslavery seems like a sort of hell. When I see people say stuff like "spend 2 years minimum in a job bro, any shorter and it looks bad" it seems absurd. Spending 2 years of your life on shit?
I feel like I'm possibly already failing to appreciate what I have now. Lots of free time because only 18 hours of work a week in a menial job, living wiht parents who literally like me living at home because they like me (though they want me to get a job obviously), living in a small city with two universities (so at least I can daydream about getting girls, not that I can), lots of time to go to the gym...
>>8062052
Grow the fuck up.
Charles worked in a fucking post office for 10 years before someone actually cared about anything he wrote of cause he's going to be a bitter cunt about employment.
>counting the time on a crisis
>being able to do it correctly
nah, youre just pretending.
I'm tired of hearing about this sort of self-pitying, melancholic drivel. There are so many ways to achieve the things that you want, yet you come here to whine about your life, about how everything would've been so much better if you had made a different choice somewhere. Just because it seems easy to shit out some app and sell it to Microsoft for $6B doesn't mean you would've done that. You probably would've been watching a Warren Buffet interview, wondering why you hadn't gone into finance instead. It doesn't matter what you do, but don't wallow over 'what could've been'. Making a choice and sticking with it will get you to where you want to be in a much swifter and more reliable fashion. Don't you see the opportunities you have? You're in one of the highest paying industries in the world, you've got the financial stability to develop personal interests, and you're in an excellent position to generate plenty of capital for any start-up ideas you might have, to hire programmers that are better than you ever would've been, and to end up with a much better product compared to when you would have done it all yourself. If you people would just stop whining for one moment, and realize that passivity and self-reflection is entirely detrimental to positive personal development, that making a bad choice and being persistent with it is very often better than making no choice at all, then all you fuckers would be much happier, much richer, and much less prone to shit all over /lit/ with your self-centred bullshit.
Hey lit, did you like Karl Ove Knausgård?
>>8061813
Very much. His conversations with Geir are top-tier.
he was great as Aragon in Lord of the Rings
>>8061813
looks cute, would pet
Where can I find a copy of The Brothers Karamazov translated by P&V at a reasonable price? Even better, a digital version of it
pic unrelated
>>8061790
>Greene
>Level 1
If they mean John Greene then the creator of this chart is a faggot, John Greene is trash
>translated by P&V
>>8063459
It's Graham Greene you illiterate retarded faggot
Someone on the tinychat gave this to me. How well does this cover essential American literature? What's it missing?
this is really honestly emberassing, disregard it completely op, i really don't mean to troll
They did it as a joke, these are all meme authors (although some of them definitely are important in american literature).
Just look into famous or acclaimed or canonical american writers, find a book that interests you and read it - if you find it too difficult move onto something that is easier and then return the previous work later. You don't need all these flowcharts to tell you exactly what to read, just use them as a way to find similar works to the ones you enjoy.
Isn't Infinite Jest post-pomo ?