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Does anyone have some good books about food and not eating it?
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>>8065359
To Start.

Kafka obviously.
Hunger by Knut Hamsun.
Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky

I've heard the Life and Times of Michael K by Coetzee is good for his but I've never read it.
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>>8065359
Come on, there must be some good thinspo literature.

Something where food or eating are described as disgusting or the main character avoids food altogether.

Thomas Mann is pretty good. The way he always mentions the obesity of the aristocracy(Consumption Class), tooth decay as a sign of decadence and the sublimity of illness.
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>>8065434

>wants "thinspo" literature where "food or eating are described as disgusting" and is calling others decadent

just fuck off already

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Learn these languages: Ancient Greek, Latin, Spanish, French.

Afterwards, you may come and seek me. For these languages are the key to liberation.

Cupio dissolvi.
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>Spanish
No thanks
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>>8065354
Spanish is the second world language behind English and the second most common language in the USA. We occasionally have threads here for Spanish-users. You have access to original translations of Don Quixote, often considered among the greatest novels, magical realism, like One Hundred Days of Solitude and Borges's stories. Learning Spanish would render Italian as an easy language to learn afterward. Italian has a lot of great works, like The Divine Comedy. Spanish is one of the easiest languages for English natives to learn, and girls dig guys who can speak a foreign language. The language opens many jobs too. Why wouldn't you want to learn Spanish?
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>>8065366
>original translations

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"And there reigns everywhere an indecent haste, as if something has been neglected if the young man of twenty-three is not yet 'finished and ready', does not yet know the answer to the 'chief question': which calling? — A higher kind of human being, excuse me for saying, doesn't think much of 'callings', the reason being he knows himself called. . . . He takes his time, he has plenty of time, he gives no thought whatsoever to being 'finished and ready,' at the age of thirty one is, as regards high culture, a beginner, a child.
Our overcrowded grammar schools, our overloaded, stupified grammar-school teachers, are a scandal: one may perhaps have motives for defending this state of things, as the professors of Heidelberg recently did — there are no grounds for doing so."

What did he mean by this?
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>>8065278
People think that a "real man" is some endpoint you reach. Nietzsche says there is no such thing, no endpoint, and that thinking about life and learning in such a way is limiting.
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>>8065278
>buying the wageslave meme
>he thinks he graduated from the world's library before 31
>education is for select few people who should be freer from plebeian duties to the state.
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>>8065297
But anon, he thinks that wageslaves should exist. Unless that is what you're getting at.

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What are the best military memoirs Pre World War 1, ive already read Poilu, Storm of Steel, and All Quiet on the Western Front
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>>8065268

One Bullet Away by Nathaniel Fick was pretty good if you've seen Generation Kill.
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Read the Personal Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant.

Written as he was dying of cancer. Published by Mark Twain.

Twain compared them to Julius Caesar's Commentaries. After reading them, Gertrude Stein couldn't think of Grant without weeping.

They're considered some of the best memoirs ever.

Read 'em. You won't regret it.
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>>8065268
in parenthesis by david jones if u feel up to it

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/lit/, does contemporary poetry it's feed into itself almost exclusively? Have any non-poets here read any poetry from the last 5-10 years?
Is academia responsible for contemporary poets being the predominant consumers of contemporary poetry? Is poetry a dwindling form?
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I've read some poetry from the last 5-10 years.
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>>8065197
In my experience among writers Poets tend to be the absolute bottom rung, it's extremely easy to pass oneself off as an amateur poet because if no one likes your work you can just fall back on 2deep4u or its innate self indulgent spirit. There are brilliant Poets Ive come across mind but they're a tiny minority and there's no continuity between them.

So basically it just results in rotten standards because these failed shitty poets end up being the people in charge of journals and such who pick their shitty equivalents and audiences just don't have the endurance and care to sift through all that nonsense.
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>>8065197
All contemporary poetry I have, I've gotten dirt cheap in the "We're never going to turn a profit on this, just get rid of it" bin

What book will help me find inner peace?
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define inner peace
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Don't fall in love. In any way.
Cash out now and train yourself to become a sociopath. You're on 4chan so you're off to a good start. Head on over to /b/ or /pol/.
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>>8065177
Is this really all there is to it?

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What do you think of Ellison?

Elitists and people who think that a writer has to be 100 years dead to ever be good need not apply
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he's a cutie
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>>8065162
I Have No Mouth is the pinnacle of holocaust literature and should have received far more recognition as such. It's far, far more sophisticated a way of communicating what thinking Jews felt after WW2 than stories about the camps themselves written by people who weren't there. Looking at you, Ozik.
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OP's pic related is a very nice collection, but what amuses me more about Ellison are his massive levels of crank

>Ellison has a reputation for being abrasive and argumentative.[18] He has generally agreed with this assessment, and a dust jacket from one of Ellison's books described him as "possibly the most contentious person on Earth". Ellison has filed numerous grievances and attempted lawsuits; as part of a dispute about fulfillment of a contract, he once sent 213 bricks to a publisher postage due, followed by a dead gopher via fourth-class mail.[19]

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I AM KING OF /LIT/
I HAVE SURPASSED PLATO
I HAVE READ THE GREEKS
I KNOW WHERE THE INFINITE UNIVERSE LIES
BOW DOWN TO ME, I SHALL GUIDE YOU TO POINT OF ENLIGHTENMENT
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>>8065078
>reads the Greeks once
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>"I-I just wish I spent more time talking about books I've never read to impress autistic manchildren on the internet"
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>>8065078
Allo leetle moonkee.

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Isn't it funny how if we were forced by life's circumstances to be only one thing (a writer, a ditch digger, a trucker) we would be fucking great at it by the time we hit 30s. But since we have so many options some of us are paralyzed by them and never take meaningful action. We're all just comfortable learning new information and regurgitating it for our friends and peers to appear smart. Which is what I'm doing this very second.
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I kek'd unexpectedly at the end. Acceptable post / 10
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I can smell the psy in this thread
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>>8065237
you must be psy-chic :^)

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Why do hipsters who pretend to be into literature talk so much about Bukowski?
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because he's a "struggling alcoholic artist".
The only thing he gave the world was his retarded "cool" image and bad poetry.
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he's like the kevin smith of literature. the foremost bar lowerer of an entire artform.

they look at him and think, if that hack could become a success, then so could i.
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>>8064974
>Why do hipsters who pretend to be into literature talk so much about Bukowski?
My guess is that the thinking is something like this:

The logic of a teenager reading Buk:

I can appear erudite by reading ANY book

I can appear erudite and more mature than my peers by reading about about one of the most adult functions: sex

I can finish a book of poetry faster than I can finish a 400 page history book about sex

But I can appear just as mature and erudite if I post a poet's quote about sex on social media

Not implying that all of B's works are about sex, just that the majority of teenagers aren't picking up Factotum

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BIBLE POWER RANKING:

Genesis
Revelation
Job
Isaiah
Matthew
John
Ecclesiastes
Proverbs
Psalms
Judges
Exodus
Acts
Daniel
Jonah
Hebrews
Romans
James
Chronicles
Corinthians
Deuteronomy
Numbers
Leviticus
Song of Solomon
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I don't get why everyone creams their pants over Revelations. It's just a bunch of shitty obscure symbolism.
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>>8064950
Surprisingly accurate. Although personally I would place Exodus below Job, and Acts between Matthew and John.
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>>8064950
>Matthew above John
>Song of Solomon last
Wew lad.

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How do I get invited to bilbiotik? I have an overdrive library card.
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I don't have any invites to give you, but I've found it to be overrated. aaaaarg.org plus libgen will probably have you covered
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>>8065028
Bibliotik has the same Ebook files like the ones you purchase from the kindle store. The legitimacy of those files is what's appealing to me, and the reason why I want to join bibliotik.
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>>8065028
Bibliotik is great it's a one stop shop for the most part.
I would be desperately unhappy without it

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Whats the best account of America History one can read?
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American History X. It has that guy from Birdman too.
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>>8064763
Hamilton: The Revolution [Book]
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a people's history of the united states

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Why does Homer have such a hard-on for Nestor?
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>>8064707
mary sue :^)
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umm... you dont?
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>>8064707
Why did he have such a hard-on for Diomedes? Nigga kills like thirty characters and wounds divinity.

"He rushed across the plain like a winter torrent that has burst its barrier in full flood; no dykes, no walls of fruitful vineyards can embank it when it is swollen with rain from heaven, but in a moment it comes tearing onward, and lays many a field waste that many a strong man hand has reclaimed- even so were the dense phalanxes of the Trojans driven in rout by the son of Tydeus, and many though they were, they dared not abide his onslaught."

Diomedes did some straight-up anime shit

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What are some good novels that go into detail about human misery? Extreme hunger, torture, poverty, etc.
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Hunger:

Hunger by Knut Hamsun
Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky
All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque

Poverty:

Les Misérables by Victor Hugo
Tropic of Cancer by Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn by Henry Miller
Down and Out in Paris and London by George Orwell

Torture:

1984 by George Orwell
The War of Don Emmanuel's Nether Parts by Louis de Bernières
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>>8064735
Thank you very much.
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>>8064663
my diary desu lad

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