-Yeah. So this guy is only wearing a pair of dungarees, tight-fitting, see? He's well-built, wearing a pair of tight-fitting dungarees. You got that?
-Yes.
-How do you say it?
-He was a well-built fellow wearing tight-fitting dungarees.
-O.K. So he goes into town and finds a girl in a bar. She wants to go to bed with him. But he can't take no chances on account of that cargo. The police, see? The girl visits him at his house, but he can't take no chances. So he tells her, take it easy . . . Jesse stopped and looked at Otto. -You're goin to get paid for this and I ain't goin to get nothin.
-I've never sold anything yet, Otto said.
-Yeah. Well you can sell this, see. This is what people like to read about. Where was I? O.K. So she wants to stay, but he wants everything he has in his mind for shark-fishing. Chilano Bay, that's the place for shark-fishing. So he dives for sharks. The white ones and the nigger sharks. Those are the black ones. They don't kill the white ones, but he'll do it, see? He's not scared. He'll dive for any shark. Period.
Otto waited.
-How's that? asked the author.
-Well it isn't quite a story yet . . .
-What do you mean it isn't a story. You think I don't know what a story is? This is what people like to read about, realism, real men doing something, not a lot of crap in fancy trimmings.
You get me?
-Yes I . . .
-You're goin to get paid for it and I ain't goin to get nothin.
Jesse returned to admiring his chest.
>>8068898
I remember you.
>>8068898
This is probably how the old man and the sea was written.
>>8068898
I see you gave barely got a quarter of the way into the recognitions. post once you finish it fsgghhhhhhhhhhot
I went to pick up a copy of Infinite Jest the other day, the other copies were in horrible condition, so I picked up this one.
>pic related
Before I spend the time reading, is this the one I should read? Or did I get the wrong version? I would just like to know so I Don't waste time.
Needs the Dave Eggers foreword for best reading experience.
You are too stupid to live.
>>8068887
have you picked up ulysses and gravity's rainbow yet?
Should I read Odysseus before reading Ulysses?
>Odysseus
no, you should probably kill yourself
Don't read either
>>8068813
It's 2 am and im tired as fuck
"Odyssey"
If I'm having a difficult time reading a book, is it ever a good idea to read a summary online so as not to be wasting my time?
Yes, it is. It will make the plot clear for you, so that you can appreciate the prose more.
>>8068736
Neat. Hope I'm not a pleb for struggling with Faulkner.
>>8068742
Which book?
Is this book worth reading from a right-wing perspective? I know Nick Land is really into it but he's sort of a weirdo so I'm not sure that's reason enough to read it.
>>8068673
I'm actually quite surprised Nick Land advocated it, what was his reason?
>>8068673
It's not worth reading at all. It's shit.
>>8068680
Almost his entire philosophy is rooted in Deleuzianism, I'm not sure what the exact reasons are but he mentions it constantly.
What is the best edition of pic related? Is it the original one? Are either of the penguin ones "better" or did they correct any substantial errors from the first edition? I can't seem to find info online about the differences between the editions. The book is out of print, so just want to make sure I she'll out the cash for a solid edition. Thanks!
I wish all you guys would just shut the fuck up and read.
No support group required.
>>8068674
Wtf is your problem? All I asked was which is the best edition to get of an out of print book, so I can actually read it. Did you even read the fucking post?
>>8068674
you first dick weenie
>life is 30-40% over
>only read 3% of Western canon
>80% of my waking hours go to turning wageslave levers at a cog factory
>the remaining 20% are only good for spacing out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwYX52BP2Sk
>>8068586
make more shitposts on 4chan that will help
Learn to speedread
Maybe you should quit your job and live as a hobo. You'd have plenty of time then.
In all seriousness, if you don't like your job then just quit. Fuck those assholes. You could probably make just as much money doing something you at least sort of enjoyed.
so if sexuality is socially constructed then how come that I, despite being above my facticity, simply am not attracted to males?
are there any books on sexuality better than foucault's, or should I start with him if I want to get an insight into the evolution of homosexuality throughout history?
You're at least attracted to penises, right?
>>8068584
no, why?
>>8068573
Here slow the fuck down, people never said that "sexuality is socially constructed", the fuck does that even mean, sounds like you're mixing it up with Gender which is another story.
Foucault's History of Sexuality is very worth reading in my opinion but one of the primary lessons of his interpretation is not that we need to open up and learn to investigate and accept some fluid notions of Sexuality to free ourselves but rather the opposite that this itself is a form of control and suppression through the Bourgeois obsession of equating an idea of essential identity with sexual identity. The proper response is to not give a fuck
Are you reading these, /lit/?
>>8068525
I was, however I got 2/3 of the way through Vol. 1 but got distracted by other books. I don't care about restarting it though, since I really enjoyed House of Leaves.
Nope.
No. I read a bit of the first one in the bookstore and was extremely turned off. It's like a high schoolers art project mixed with some average authors lame story.
>>>Now, Faustus, ask what thou wilt.
>First will I question with thee about hell.
>Tell me, where is the place that men call hell?
>>>Under the heavens.
>Ay, but whereabout?
>>>Within the bowels of these elements,
>>>Where we are tortur'd and remain for ever:
>>>Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscrib'd
>>>In one self place; for where we are is hell,
>>>And where hell is, there must we ever be:
>>>And, to conclude, when all the world dissolves,
>>>And every creature shall be purified,
>>>All places shall be hell that are not heaven.
Hell wasn't mentioned in the Bible until it came to the West via Asia. Before then it was just Sheol, which was like Hades and certainly not a place of fire nor torment. Just a place where the dead went to chill.
I guess ideas can be tracked and discounted.
It's hysterical that Faustus learns how much Mephistopheles despairs over hell and STILL sells his soul. What a douche.
FAUSTIAN POWER RANKINGS:
Marlowe > Mann > Goethe > Bulgakov
Not to say Bulgakov's is bad; they're all brilliant.
>>8068456
Why don't we keep that one? It sounds much more pleasant.
Post your face when you've realized that The Pilgrim of Zola and Jessica is the best literature work produced in the 21st century.
Feel free to read it at: http://imgur.com/a/WDwyW
This looks uninteresting
Marlon James has filled the spot for nigger talk xploitation in literature, that stuff's old and forgotten
That's way too much nigger ramblings for me to decode
Do you guys know any good alternative sites to discussing literature? don't say reddit or goodreads
>>8068235
my irc tbqh
OP, if we knew of one, would we be here?
Honestly.
>>8068235
The sad reality is that this is the best alternative.
>need to write an essay with a friend
>I wrote a first draft, I admit that I had a poor reading of the source (some chapters of Anti-Duhring)
>sent to friend
>he's 10 year older and has a masters degree (I'm 22)
>he simply improves the text in every way
>he adds things that I knew but, for some inane reason, didn't put in my own text
>also, the text flows so much better
I feel so fucking embarrassed. I don't know why I didn't put half the things he put in there even though I knew them. When he sent the text back to me it made so much more sense. He also had a couple of hours to read and make corrections, while I spent much more time.
How do I become a better reader and a better writer, friends? I'm tired of being humiliated in the academy. I don't know if it's because I'm just being lazy and not reading the texts properly, or maybe because I'm not writing all the author's points down. All I know is that when I read what I write after some time I just feel disgusted. All the paragraphs are so simple and bleak, they barely give any good information.
Sorry for any mistakes, english is not my first language.
kys
>>8068029
thanks
>>8068021
I feel inadequate in academia too.
I guess just write down your ideas and work longer on the text, read slow, and read more than once.
>le California man
>>8068000
/fa/ af
>le Mississippi man
>>8068000
>>8068019
is this the start of a
NEW
EPIC
MEME?????????????
Pick a century, and its corresponding paragonal philosophical work. I'll start:
XIX century - "Phänomenologie des Geistes".
XXII century - "Fanged Noumena"
there aren't many centuries
>>8067973
The best are few also.