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Please tell me the idea that 'pic related is satire' is a stupid fucking meme that nobody actually takes seriously.
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>>8122553
Read Isaiah Berlin's essay about Machiavelli. This is only one of the possible interpretations.
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>>8122553
read david wootton's introduction/essay on the prince, it's in the hackett translation and it's great
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tbqh Machiaelli has a Pepe-like expression in this portrait

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>"Why are breakfast foods breakfast foods?" I asked them. "Like, why don't we have curry for breakfast food?"
>"Hazel, eat."
>"But why?" I asked. "I mean, seriously: How did scrambled eggs get stuck in with breakfast exclusivity? You can put bacon on a sandwich without anyone freaking out. But the moment your sandwich has an eggs, boom, it's a breakfast sandwich."
>Dad answered with his mouth full. "When you come back, we'll have breakfast for dinner. Deal?"
>"I don't want to have 'breakfast for dinner,'" I answered, crossing knife and fork over my mostly full plate. "I want to have scrambled eggs for dinner without this ridiculous construction that scrambled eggs-inclusive meal is breakfast even when it occurs at dinnertime."
>"You've gotta pick your battles in this world, Hazel," my mom said. "But if this is the issue you want to champion, we stand behind you."
>"Quite a bit behind you," my dad added, and Mom laughed.
>Anyway, I knew it was stupid, but I felt kind of bad for scrambled eggs.
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>>8122109
“Wild eyes were another sign. It is something I have seldom seen — the expression of an ecstatic state — though much is foolishly written of them, as if they grew like Jerusalem artichokes along the road. The eyes are black, right enough, whatever their normal color is; they are black because their perception is condensed to a coal, because the touch and taste and perfume of the lover, the outcry of a dirty word, a welcome river, have been reduced in the heat of passion to a black ash, and this unburnt residue of oxidation, this calyx, replaces the pupil so it no longer receives but sends, and every hair is on end, though perhaps only outspread on a pillow, and the nostrils are flared, mouth agape, cheeks sucked so the whole face seems as squeezed as a juiced fruit; I know, for once Lou went into that wildness while we were absorbing one another, trying to kiss, not merely forcefully, not the skull of our skeleton, but the skull and all the bones on which the essential self is hung, kiss so the shape of the soul is stirred too, that's what is called the ultimate French, the furtherest fuck, when a cock makes a concept cry out and climax; I know, for more than once, though not often, I shuddered into that other region, when a mouth drew me through its generosity into the realm of unravel, and every sensation lay extended as a lake, every tie was loosed, and the glue of things dissolved. I knew I wore the wild look then. The greatest gift you can give another human being is to let them warm you till, in passing beyond pleasure, your defenses fall, your ego surrenders, its structure melts, its towers topple, lies, fancies, vanities, blow away in no wind, and you return, not to the clay you came from — the unfired vessel — but to the original moment of inspiration, when you were the unabbreviated breath of God.”
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>I think I would know Nora's fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.
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>>8122109
>first world problems

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Why are there no Dostoevsky threads??
Do you think he was a very introverted person or extroverted ?
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>>8121920
i think he was introverted unless impassioned by a feverish desire to express an opinion, otherwise, he was probably a very unpleasant man. what is it that you search for in the artist that you can't find in his work anyway, anon? the man will never be anything but the vessel from which his art pours. you will only be disappointed by his apparent emptiness.
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>>8121920
this is why there aren't any dostoevsky threads.
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>>8121925
Could you please explain this message I can't quite understand it , maybe i am not as intelligent as to understand that, could you please try to explain it in more simplier terms or maybe elaborate?

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Tell me why I shouldn't believe in objectivism and everything she says.
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You are free to believe in whatever you want. Just as we are free to believe that you're a dumbass.
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>believing text
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>>8121864
Because you're probably more intelligent than that. I've been proven wrong before though.

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Post only one writer per country, but as many countries as you want. I also listed in descending order the nations I tend to read from the most.

USA: Charles Bukowski (sorry, no pomo)
England: D. H. Lawrence
Ireland: James Joyce
France: Michel Houellebecq
Russia: Fyodor Dostoevsky
Germany: Friedrich Nietzsche
Austria: Leopold von Sacher-Masoch
Greece: Homer
Italy (including Italic Romans): Italo Svevo
Norway: Knut Hamsun
Switzerland: Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Netherlands: Jan Wolkers
Belgium: Dimitri Verhulst
Denmark: H. C. Andersen
Spain: Cervantes
Portugal: Pessoa
Japan: Mishima
China: Li Fu
Argentina: Borges
Peru: Vallejo

This list makes me realize that I prefer modern writers. I know I'll get a lot of hate for Bukowski, but whatever. Our lists are about what we like the most, not who is "objectively" the best.
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you seem like someone i would really dislike
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Also, are there any nations you would like to read more of? Personally, I was surprised to read that I haven't read any Swedes even though they keep awarding themselves the Nobel Prize in Literature. I also would like to read more contemporary Chinese novelists since there seems to be a lot! Anyone have any Swedes or Chinese to recommend?
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Hnng sauce?

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Define "postmodernism" without using the term "reaction" or any of its alternate forms or synonyms.

Also don't mention or refer to modernism.

Go.
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>“I define postmodern as incredulity toward meta-narratives,” says Lyotard (Lyotard 1984 [1979], xxiv).

>"Fist my ass." (Foucault 1965)
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gay jewish nonsense for insecure pseudo-intellectual goyim
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>>8121707
/thread

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Need one on fairly short notice and can't think of anything to write about.
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Pussy stinks when dead for hours
and fucked by drills run on power.
Blood has stained the holy glass
and shamed a kid into a coward.
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>>8121516
Need to number two
But I will not poo in loo
designated street
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>>8121563

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What's music you usually listen to when you read? What genre is it, best compliments it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d81G9W8pEno
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I can't focus at all when I'm listening to music and reading. Being a musician means that you can't help but think about all the little nuances of a song ("that guitar has a lot of mid", "I think I hear a synth in the background", "I never noticed that little melodic line before", and so on). This is all while I'm supposed to be thinking about the relationship between the characters, the plot, and the overall theme of a work.
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>>8121462
This. I put on dadrock or music from high school if I'm on public transport and just want something to drown out other noise.
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>>8121664
>dadrock or music from high school
>reading

what the fuck. disgusting.

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What is /lit/s stance on SCP?

Is this literature? Do you like it? Any favorites?

I have read some of the "logs", found some pretty cool ones, but others were terrible and even had edgy pictures at the start of them for scary purposes, but that just defeats the whole thing and is lame as fuck.
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Some are good but most are bad. People try too hard and often create poo.

One weird morning I was reading the SCP website and somehow stumbled onto a massive horrible fanfiction where like 30 of the more famous SCPs escape and jerk each other off in a forest or some retarded bullshit. You could tell a chick wrote it. I somehow got so caught up in reading it that I didn't realise I was reading the worst piece of shit of all time, and I achieved some kind of perfect intuitive Verstehen of some idiot retard 16 year old's mind, and I felt super dissociated and depressed all morning.
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>>8121365

I like the one about the Sumerian guy who is locked up in a coffin and exists only to be a killing machine. He's always getting out and going on rampages. It was sort of inspiring in a weird way.

>>8121496

>30 of the more famous SCPs escape and jerk each other off in a forest or some retarded bullshit. You could tell a chick wrote it. I somehow got so caught up in reading it that I didn't realise I was reading the worst piece of shit of all time, and I achieved some kind of perfect intuitive Verstehen of some idiot retard 16 year old's mind, and I felt super dissociated and depressed all morning.

hahaha
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"We Need To Talk About Fifty-Five" was a pretty interesting read, series went downhill towards the end though.

any /lit/eratis want to help me complete this chart I started yesterday? Here's what I plan on adding, tell me if I should add or delete these:
>weber
>durkheim and weber??
>catholics: de maistre, lammenais, ultramontanism, leo xiii- social catholicism, catholic corporatism, distributism/rerum novarum=anti-liberalism?), chateaubriand, ballanche
>utopian socialism=>saint simonism=>mysticism/esotericism/spiritualism=>theosophy=>ariosophy=>/hitler/evola=>llate mussolini
>ottoweininger=evola=>alain de benois/new right
>vilfredo pareto, gaetano mosca, robert michels=>fascism
>romanticism: goethe, chateaubriand
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fuck off

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany
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>>8121289
Wrong thread mate.
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it's kind of odd how anarchism influenced Mussolini in that pic, is that actually true?

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I tried making a thread about this the other day, but it was ignored. Let's try this again.

I'm not enjoying Gravity's Rainbow. Nor am I understanding any significance.

I loved part one, Beyond the Zero. The prose was great, several passages were meaningful to me, and I got a sense of the spirit of war and paranoia. Mexico and Jessica were my favorite characters.

But I'm in part three right now, and I'm not giving one fuck about this book anymore. Tell me reading the rest is worth it, please.
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Sounds like you shouldn't be here, GR is like entry level lit
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You are not supposed to enjoy all the books you read
>BUT BUT MUH MEMES !
Please leave
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Saw your post but I haven't read GR yet. I'd say just finish it. I don't usually stop reading a book even if I don't like it. It's an OCD thing for me.

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Is it worth it?

It looks like a bunch of Ad Hominems strung together into political science book form.

Are there any more scientific political science books?
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>>8120916
Nothing Platonic is worth it.

Diogenes or bust
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By Karl Pop Lock 'n Dropper
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>>8120916
>tfw Popper's antichrist tract gets BTFO by Papa Dugin

http://arctogaia.com/public/eng-teor.htm

Will this water damage get better or can I fix this?

amazon cunts sending me wet books i swear to god i'll kill them
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>>8120846
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200572800
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you can return them. i returned one the other day. don't even have to pay for shipping if you do a dropoff
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>>8120846
turn on your clothes dryer. let it heat up. turn it off. throw book in. let it dry in heat. I've done this.

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do you guys organize your bookshelves by color?
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what the fuck
organize by authors last name you clown
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>>8120596
I did it once, when I only had about 60 or so books.

Would be painful to do with 1,000+
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I organize them by size because autism.

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I’ve been feeling sort of disturbed lately over the thought of how people use retribution and violence to comfort themselves. This disturbance came to me when I started thinking about whether or not it’s okay to hurt rapists after they’ve raped someone. I feel like if I were to just say, yeah go ahead and smash their balls with a sledge hammer, then that may satisfy some basic need for moral answers in the universe. The problem is, the existential and higher rationality side of me says that violence doesn’t really achieve anything.

So, it’s left me in an existential dilemma that I’ve been inside of for a while now. It’s the problem that there is no ultimate good or bad in this world. Even rapists, they’re only bad because we place that jurisdiction on them. We’ve come to a societal consensus that rape is a bad thing, for the betterment of our human kind. One of the reasons society has religion is because people feel - as I am feeling right now - uncomfortable with existential dilemmas. It makes us feel uncomfortable to feel like we don’t have answers in the world.

It feels like a valley has opened up inside my head and all logic seems to fall into it, like a black hole, the weight collapsing in on itself from the complexity of the problem. I realize with despair, there’s nothing that makes good people good and bad people bad, and the very idea of justice is something that perplexes me. This disturbs me to the core of my being, the existential dilemmas that we can face. There’s no ultimate feel good endorphin release with intellectualizing the universe. The only thing that can superseded our emotions is our intelligence, but even intelligence isn’t enough.
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I don't believe I have the education needed to speak with authority on the matter but I believe you'd find something in René Girard's work. Memetic violence/scapegoating - s'wat he deals with. I've been meaning to get more into his ideas but I don't have the time anymore.
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>>8120797
I'll look into this
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Schopenhauer deals with this by saying that once a person has committed a harmful crime, the job of the state is to use him as a means to dissuade other would-be criminals from breaking the law via punishment, as well as to restore public order.

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