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How the fuck do you even understand Lacanians?
I read the dummie "how to read Lacan" by the Slovene, but even that wasn't any help to go through Miller's shit.
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>>8124118
Don't even bother. Just ignore them.
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>>8124118
Apperantly "The Lacanian Subject: Between Language and Jouissance" is the best place to start, Lacan is a sort of thinker where you have to understand nearly everything before you understand anything
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>>8124118
Is pic related to what you are trying to understand or not?
If yes, you really shouldn't skip so far ahead as to the graph of desire without reading other texts of Lacan first, because as you can see it refers to other texts and even though he will talk about all these points during his explanation of the graph, I really doubt it will suffice.
But yea, graph is really hard and involves a lot of hard concepts, I study Lacan and I can't talk about this shit either lol.

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What is the second most beneficial language to know in order to appreciate literature from another culture?
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what's the first most?
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>>8123817
You should only appreciate your own culture, or your simply a cuck. Take the redpill
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Depend of what culture, you mong.

What's up virgins. I'm about to start reading Anna Karenina for the first time and in Russian. What should I expect? Isn't it obsolete yet? Should I really read that?
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>>8123618
>literature
>obsolete
Technology goes obsolete.
Art will die with the last human.
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you're a faggot
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>>8123634
I'm gonna fuck your mommy dead

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Is "Lolita" a meme? While first part of the novel is intelligent, a little bit perverse, and with wicked sense of humor, the second consist mostly redundant descriptions, and unchewable chunks of purple prose. I'm not feeling like I waste my time by reading it, but stop treating "Lolita" as something greater than it really is.
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>>8123064
it's supposed to be like that. you're too stupid to understand it apparently
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>>8123064
>intelligent, perverse, and with wicked sense of humor
don't you mean nihilistic and with wicked sense of humor OP?
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Dark worlds totally haven't gotten trite yet edition.

Recommendation
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/3v2oXAY.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/
>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ / http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/
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>>8122976
1st for most fun in a long time
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2nd for Brent Weeks and Patrick Rothfuss
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Someone leak The Great Ordeal's ebook already/

Could someone explain to me why Kierkegaard is not considered as making an argument for fanaticism when he advocates the teleological suspension of the ethical? He admits that Abraham was unethical in his act, but how is he truly a worthy example? I can understand the leap of faith as a starting point, but justifying anything more than that with it leads to relativism (as Zizek puts it, "If God exists everything is permitted"). Or maybe that was Kierkegaard's point? I've only read Fear and Trembling so maybe I missed his point.
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>>8122303
He's not saying be like or don't be like Abraham. Just that when it comes to teleologically suspending the ethical, nobody will understand you maan
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What Kierkegaard is doing is trying to reconcile faith with the idea that modernism is true.

Premise A: God is absolute
Premise B: Moral good is relative
Conclusion: God must sometimes conflict with morality.

It could be used to justify fanaticism, but Kierkegaard is talking about Christianity, which kind of forbids killing people. In fact, the suspension here would more likely be your society expects you to kill someone, and it would make moral sense, but you choose not to because of religion.
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>>8122303
Yes he was, we must be fanatic in our faith or else we have nothing.

I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.
- Apocalypse of St. John 3:15-16

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>>8116762
best served cold by joe abercrombie. its like a D and D group in a grimdark world. would make a good game.I tried some of his other stuff and did not like it. cycle of arawn is good too
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omg

lit nowadays is ridiculous
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>>8116782

thanks my man

>>8116791

filtered

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This is the thread where everyone posts their handwriting and everyone else makes fun of it.

If you write your works on pen and paper, go ahead and show us an excerpt as well. If not, just post a meme sentence.
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here's a beat-sheet I wrote for a short comic
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>>8116518
Illegible

>>8116538
Phony attempt at being comic

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ITT: poems that stop you in your tracks.

not necessarily poems that you like, not necessarily poems you think are """""""good poems""""""" (although they certainly can be these things as long as they meet the topical condition as well).

poems that give you pause. poems that are jarring. poems that make you double-take. post them here.
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>>8114902

i'll start:

>Sparrow Trapped in the Airport by Averill Curdy

Never the bark and abalone mask
cracked by storms of a mastering god,
never the gods’ favored glamour, never
the pelagic messenger bearing orchards
in its beak, never allegory, not wisdom
or valor or cunning, much less hunger
demanding vigilance, industry, invention,
or the instinct to claim some small rise
above the plain and from there to assert
the song of another day ending;
lentil brown, uncounted, overlooked
in the clamorous public of the flock
so unlikely to be noticed here by arrivals,
faces shining with oils of their many miles,
where it hops and scratches below
the baggage carousel and lights too high,
too bright for any real illumination,
looking more like a fumbled punch line
than a stowaway whose revelation
recalls how lightly we once traveled.
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>>8114902
John Ashbury is perfect for this

The first of the undecoded messages read: “Popeye sits
in thunder,
Unthought of. From that shoebox of an apartment,
From livid curtain’s hue, a tangram emerges: a country.”
Meanwhile the Sea Hag was relaxing on a green couch: “How
pleasant
To spend one’s vacation en la casa de Popeye," she
scratched
Her cleft chin’s solitary hair. She remembered spinach

And was going to ask Wimpy if he had bought any spinach.
“M’love," he intercepted, “the plains are decked out
in thunder
Today, and it shall be as you wish.” He scratched
The part of his head under his hat. The apartment
Seemed to grow smaller. “But what if no pleasant
Inspiration plunge us now to the stars? For this is my
country.”

Suddenly they remembered how it was cheaper in the country.
Wimpy was thoughtfully cutting open a number 2 can of spinach
When the door opened and Swee’pea crept in. “How pleasant!”
But Swee’pea looked morose. A note was pinned to his bib.
“Thunder
And tears are unavailing," it read. “Henceforth shall
Popeye’s apartment
Be but remembered space, toxic or salubrious, whole or
scratched.”

Olive came hurtling through the window; its geraniums scratched
Her long thigh. “I have news!” she gasped. “Popeye, forced as
you know to flee the country
One musty gusty evening, by the schemes of his wizened,
duplicate father, jealous of the apartment
And all that it contains, myself and spinach
In particular, heaves bolts of loving thunder
At his own astonished becoming, rupturing the pleasant

Arpeggio of our years. No more shall pleasant
Rays of the sun refresh your sense of growing old, nor the
scratched
Tree-trunks and mossy foliage, only immaculate darkness and
thunder.”
She grabbed Swee’pea. “I’m taking the brat to the country.”
“But you can’t do that—he hasn’t even finished his spinach,"
Urged the Sea Hag, looking fearfully around at the apartment.

But Olive was already out of earshot. Now the apartment
Succumbed to a strange new hush. “Actually it’s quite pleasant
Here," thought the Sea Hag. “If this is all we need fear from
spinach
Then I don’t mind so much. Perhaps we could invite Alice the Goon
over”—she scratched
One dug pensively—“but Wimpy is such a country
Bumpkin, always burping like that.” Minute at first, the thunder

Soon filled the apartment. It was domestic thunder,
The color of spinach. Popeye chuckled and scratched
His balls: it sure was pleasant to spend a day in the country.
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>>8114919

l m a o w u t
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Post 'em anons!
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Built this makeshift bookshelf last night. I find it very motivating and inspiring.
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>>8114934

>GRRM
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>>8114934
>Only gardens of the moon
Try harder

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I'm depressed.
What should I read?
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>>8114577
May I suggest something light-hearted like A Confederacy of Dunces?
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>>8114577
The Conspiracy Against the Human Race
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Your Bible.

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Post your backlog, others recommend what you read next
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>>8113610
Petersburg or Faust
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>>8113610
bout 3/4 of my 25 shelves
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>>8113629
Have read zero of them but I've been looking to check out skylark for ages so go for that

Longtime no Goodreads thread- Post your accounts and find new friends.

https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/2408134-sebastian
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le reads 5 books a day faggot
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>>8113529
>le reads 5 books a day faggot

sorry for not being dyslexic
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>tfw defriending Sebastian because of German novella spam on my feed

Improved my Goodreads experience, would recommend. You can still watch his race towards the boundaries of introversion on others feeds.

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Vol. 1.2 - The Three Theban Plays by Sophocles

>Previous Thread
>>8074665

>Upcoming dates
23/05/16 - "Three Theban Plays" by Sophocles
01/06/16 - Voting day
02/06/16 - Results and rollover period
06/06/16 - "Three Theban Plays" finished

>How do I bookclub?
Find the book at the top of this post, read it, and discuss. Bookclubs are a place for expanding and sharing your knowledge. Use this opportunity to ask questions, and discuss the things you liked and did not like about the story.

>Archives
http://pastebin.com/HTu8Nf5d

>Questions and points from the previous thread
If we look at the three Theban plays as a trilogy, how do you think it compares that of Aeschylus - Oresteia ?

Did Sophocles purposely end each of his plays with destiny prevailing over free will because he would have been lynched by the audience otherwise?

Did the Greek chorus stand still while they sang or did they dance and sing?

When it comes to Oedipus at Colonus, I just don't see the appeal, if someone can shed some light on what they liked about that play I'd appreciate it.
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here are the current recs for the next poll.

Fathers and Sons - Ivan Turgenev
Cyberiad - Stanisaw Lem
Amores - Ovid
Fates and Furies - Lauren Groff
The Wretched of the Earth - Frantz Fanon
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So we're finally doing it eh? Sounds good
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>>8098543
It's been going on for a week now. I wonder how many people actually read the plays.

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I have 30 unread/unfinished books in my backlog
I have 2 books already in my amazon basket.
I buy and buy more books each month and don't read/finish them.

I think I have either a bookaholic or a collector
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What am I asking is should I click buy or not?
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>>8128192
unless you are a homeowner with a personal library, use the public library or pirate
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>not having a kindle
>not pirating your books on libgen
Some people are that dumb.

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