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Anyone else frustrated they've still have to cover the basics of philosophic tradition?
I'm trying hard, but it's depressing knowing you arguably still know shit.
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>>8126449
>ywn know anything
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>>8126449
stop trying and
just be yourself
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>>8126449
>not spending a year reading solely introductions to philosophical schools
>intro to and selected readings of pre-Socratics
>intro to and selected readings of Plato
>... Aristotle
>... Plotinus
>Augustine
>St. Anselm and St. Thomas Aquinas
>etc. etc. through to Descartes, Leibniz, Spinoza, Hobbes, Locke, Hume, Kant, Hegel, Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Marx, Heidegger, Wittgenstein, Foucault, Deleuze, Derrida, and the analytics.
Congrats, you now have a basic idea about the philosophical tradition. Then you start over and read all the original texts in depth.
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What is the film equivalent?
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>>8126361
lels
I don't think there is one since lit has been around much longer than film and thus has had the time to mature to make works like the meme trilogy (excepting IJ lol)
if based on general ambition, difficulty and the subversion of and innovation upon cinematic tropes, then I would probably put forward a trilogy of
Synecdoche, New York
the Tree of Life
Mulholland Drive
might replace some with tarkovsky. also ignoring satantango and such since I haven't seen
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>>8126517
>the Tree of Life
Isn't that really simple, though?
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Why did it become irrelevant so quickly?
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>>8126163
STRETCHED
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>>8126163
You grew up quickly.
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>>8126163
HP was pretty much all about plot. Once the plot was resolved, the whole thing was over. There's nothing to discuss outside of the autism-hives of fanfiction.
Does anyone else feel like Doc is a stand in for Pynchon himself? The bit about the heroin eroding the girls teeth away comes off as a real conversation someone had with him.
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>>8126111
Maybe, but only to the extent that any author's characters are reflections of them. He's probably closer to a blend of Benny Profane and Slothrop irl.
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>>8126114
Slothrop is too much of a schlemiel to be Pynchon. Tommy's an intelligent guy, neurotic but intelligent. I feel like when wrapped up in the zeitgeist of the late 60's he was a very confused man.
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pynchon probably just knew his fair share of junkies and burnouts living in manhattan beach
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am i the only one here who enjoys the thought of reading more than the act of reading?
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>>8126063
i like listing the books i'm going to read more than reading. i have entire notebooks full of lists, rather than actual writing.
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>>8126063
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I'm one of those cunts who only reads when they have to and get my enjoyment through music, movies, TV series, etc. I feel like I've been neglecting reading purely because I never new what was good to read, and/or was forced to read utter shit throughout school.
I know that books are heavily subjective and everyone obviously has their own things they love, but I want to test a variety of books which are considered 'good' and see what I enjoy.
Imagine you're you before you became a huge book autist what would you suggest you begin with? Or imagine your good friend asks you for some suggestions of good books to read, not complete normie shit tier but also not complete book autist master tier.
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>>8126036
Stranger in a Strange Land, that's what i would have suggested to you in my teen years.
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>>8126036
knew*
Probably should have proof read before I made a thread, pls don't crucify me
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>>8126036
For reference, what are your favorite movies, shows, music types, philosophical questions etc.?
It would be easier to give 'good' book recommendations that you would find enjoyable if we're up to date on your basic interests.
"Any half-way decent man will think himself extremely imperfect, but a religious man believes himself wretched." -Wittgenstein
"Substitute for religion. One thinks he is speaking well of philosophy when he presents it as a substitute religion for the people. In spiritual economy, transitional spheres of thought are indeed necessary occasionally, for the transition from religion to scientific contemplation is a violent, dangerous leap, something inadvisable. To that extent, it is right to recommend philosophy. But in the end, one ought to understand that the needs which religion has satisfied, which philosophy is now to satisfy, are not unchangeable: these needs themselves can be weakened and rooted out. Think, for example, of Christian anguish, the sighing about inner depravity, concern about salvation--all of these ideas originate only from errors of reason and deserve not satisfaction, but annihilation. A philosophy can be useful either by satisfying those needs or by eliminating them; for they are acquired needs, temporally limited, based on assumptions that contradict those of science. It is preferable to use art for this transition, for easing a heart overburdened with feelings; those ideas are entertained much less by art than by a metaphysical philosophy. Beginning with art, one can more easily move on to a truly liberating philosophical science." -Nietzsche
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On the subject of the writing talent of philosophers, Redpath asked Wittgenstein which philosophers he considered the most impressive authors. Wittgenstein’s prompt reply was “Nietzsche”. Redpath goes on to say: “When I told him I had read a certain amount of Nietzsche and asked what he thought of his general world view, he said that he didn’t think there was much ‘consolation’ to be had from it – it was ‘too shallow’”
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>>8126014
So Witty wanted to be a Christian but couldn't find faith?
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Nuclear Disaster Book? 2016-06-05 05:39:12 Post No.8125988
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Any good nuclear attack survival books anyone can recommend? Something really realistic that focuses mainly on the attack itself and not the aftermath.
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>>8125988
And I also don't mean anything like a guide. I'm looking for fiction.
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The aftermath is the story though, so you're not going to avoid that. Swan Song.
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>>8125995
I guess what I'm looking for is mostly just a hyper detailed account of a fictional nuclear strike.
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How difficult is The Tunnel when compared to The Recognitions or Ulysses? Is it the hardest meme?
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pic not related
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>>8125880
gonna bump this shit tbqh
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>>8125880
I think it's just longer, really.
When does a book about a young girl and sexuality cross the line? I'm writing a book right now centered on an 11 year old girl experiencing a sexual awakening, however she just masturbates and lusts after other girls (thats it, no sex, no kissing). I don't want to be seen as a pedo in anyway nor do I want to make this fapping material for pedophiles. I'm trying to limit the sexuality parts as much as I can and only use it when necessary and tastefully of course. I personally really hate the overly sexualization of young girls but not in any way am I trying to make her "sexy and ready" or what have you, but have her go through a personal struggle, not necessarily even about her sexuality, because that is something she already accepted about of herself.
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You know exactly what you're doing, post excerpts
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>>8125850
Make it banal and mechanical. I assume you are male(if you were female, you wouldn't worry, just as a male writer can easily mention a boy jerking off) - so think about how you masturbate; there is no tingling waves of warmth or whatever, it's ambient pleasure: when you chok the chiken, you probably even think about work or weekend plans or whatever. Same with a little girl, I suppose.
Avoid the words ecstasy and radiated at all costs.
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It's honestly obtuse to pretend that the sexuality of girls doesn't exist at that age and i think to ignore it would be not truthful. But the line you don't want to cross is the sensationalization of it. This is where Lolita squicks me out in a lot of ways, not because of the novel itself, but rather its interpretation (directly against Nabokov's views and message of the novel)
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How do you break the habit of only reading before sleep?
This is killing me, I only can get in like 20 pages before I start dozing off.
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>>8125845
well, you read during the day.
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>>8125845
sounds like depression
and you're a frogposter so
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>>8125853
well frogposting signifies he's a normalfaggototry, doubt it's depression
maybe he's just "sad"
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Is there anything out there similar to the Lovecraft Dream Cycle?
Through The Gates of The Silver Key and Dream Quest nearly broke my brain with the insanity. Or should I just read old school fantasy like a dream sequence and get the same effect?
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>>8125771
>poasting roastings
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>>8125785
It's a metaphor for life in that if you look too hard at the details, everything turns out disappointing
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>>8125785
that picture is a perfect metaphor for /b/ plebs
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Anyone else read this gem? It's basically a window into the mind of someone with real OCD and not just 'lol i have a habit im so ocd XDDD'
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Got a link to it?
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>>8125707
Stop shitposting here nick. No one wants to read your autistic hex codes.
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Describing colors as hexadecimal HTML color codes (#FF0000) is a stroke of genius
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>wake up from vivid dream in the middle of the night
>"wow, that would make a great plot"
>write it down
>go back to sleep
>wake up
>read it
>it's really stupid
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>not respecting your dreams
smhtbh
you write it until it works
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Anyone ever have dreams where you're reading? I wish I could remember all the dank prose
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that is so amateur
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World of Warcraft Roleplay Writing [Why delete this, mods?]
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Hello, /lit/.
This is the first time that I have ever visited this board, and it is the first time I have ever posted. I thought it would be best to come here as I knew of its existence, to ask my question which has been nagging me for quite some time regarding an insecurity of my writing competence.
As the title says, I am a Roleplayer on the MMO, World of Warcraft.
I have done so for around - I think - seven years in total and this includes having to learn the general manners and rules which come with Roleplay itself, but also the rules of writing. I openly admit that during the start of the Roleplaying lifestyle my writing was utter shit and was far worse than it is today, but this is beside the point.
The problem I have is that there is a 'blockade' to the creativity and the capability to produce long and descriptive emotes with ease during Roleplay.
>NOTE: The issue does not seep into the generation of ideas for Roleplay scenarios, that is fine. The issue lies in the actual process of reacting, and describing the actions given by my character of choice during the Roleplay session.
This problem is a very recent thing, thus the reason why I have come here.
My initial suspicions were that I had some sort of a writers block, that I have simply Roleplayed for too many days over too many years and finally the ebb and flow of creativity has settled into a still pool of an utterly mundane nature.
The concept of this being the reason why, utterly terrifies me. I want to Roleplay, I have done so for so long and I love doing it, but the situation I appear to be in has put a halt to all of this. Albeit unwillingly.
I need to know if there is a good trick to getting those creative juices flowing again, or if there are methods to increase the quantity of descriptive writing being typed out.
In-game there is a limited size to a block of text, which people call a 'paragraph', even though it is not like your average paragraph, especially not as large. They can be ignored with the use of specific game addons, but the unit of '1.00' is highlighted beside the chat box in order to inform you how many paragraphs are currently written to keep track. Below, I'll give you an example of the paragraph size, and how it would look in-game.
>[Character] Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example Example
Now in Roleplay, anyone who is worth their salt can write up to around four to five - or even more - of these emotes in succession in their turn to write, filled with detail and descriptive goodness which improves and immerses the players in the fantasy setting.
I used to be able to reach such levels, but over time I have lost the touch and at best I can fill around two paragraphs.
TL;DR: I am having trouble with effectively performing descriptive writing.
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>>8125643
Read a book
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start with the greeks
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>>8127218
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Father Brown series is pretty good for what you're looking for, clever and enjoyBle characterisations and descriptions with a range of different characters covered.