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What are some short novels written by high brow authors?
I want to get into reading, but long texts are too intimidating and I don't want to read mundane YA shit.
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>>8123455
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading/Literature_by_type
Look in the novellas section.
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>>8123455
Dubliners
Ficciones
Billy Bud
Notes from the Underground
Mrs. Dalloway
The Death if Ivan Ilyich
Siddhartha
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>>8123455
Tolstoy wrote a bunch of very straightforward short stories. Quite a few are allegorical and heavily christian.
Sevastopol Sketches is a fine starting point, and not as hamfistedly christian as much of his other short work. The Death of Ivan Ilyich is heavier, but still short and accessible.
What do you read when you're in need of some motivation or inspiration? I'm in need of some of that right now.
Pic related. I haven't read it since high school, but I found Civil Disobedience to be one of the most inspiring works I'd ever encountered. Mishima's Sun and Steel also helped motivate me to continue lifting and caring about fitness.
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>>8123377
Emerson and Nietzsche
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>>8123382
Anything in particular? I've read neither.
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>>8123443
Everything in particular
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Dear /lit/ I need your advice.
I want to buy a little collection of books for my sister. She has her 18th birthday this month and I want to give her some must reads.
Problem is, she has only been reading bullshit girl stuff until now so I can not confront her with something like Ulysses right away.
What would you suggest?
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>>8123306
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Little-Black-Classics-Box-Penguin/dp/0141398876
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Mrs. Dalloway
Some Shakespeare if she hasn't read it for school already
In my experience, chicks dig Hart Crane and Wallace Stevens
Dubliners is good for any young person
She might like the Romantics. Give her William Blake if you're daring.
But frankly, I always think this kind of thread is rather silly. You know her better than we do.
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>>8123341
Yes but although I read a lot some of you might know a better book for beginners.
Thats why I am asking. To get some ideas.
Thanks so far.
Thoughts on the movie?
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>>8123277
it was pretty good i thought the first time and then watched it stoned with friends and realized that the sound editing is really good, stuff like car honks in the background at the right times, and then I think I came to the conclusion that I can't envision a better dfw biopic
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>>8123277
It caricaturized him to some extent but it's more subtle than people think.
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Is there anyone who actually disliked the movie?
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Is this book actually difficult to tackle or is it blown way out or proportion? I've been thinking about getting it but I don't want it to be something I never really pick up and enjoy.
Lots of the grief I hear about it comes from the encyclopedic chapters about whaling, as well as the length.
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>>8123258
>Lots of the grief I hear about it comes from the encyclopedic chapters about whaling
That isn't even the driest part 2bh
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Americans think it's terrible difficult but that's just due to their low standards.
It's somewhat dry in some parts, nothing more.
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Start reading and find out. Personally I think it's both amazing and very fun.
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>>8123195
Garbage genre fic
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>>8123195
dfw would have read this book and hated himself for writing esoteric literary/genre fiction that is attempting to communicate similar things i.e. humanity but doing so in a way that is inaccessible and meant to exclude by nature of the genre, something he felt books like this didn't have and were better for imo
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I'm halfway through the book now. Is it just the same throughout or what? I feel like there's no tension and when something cool happens, it's often ignored or written away, a la Kaladin losing his right arm and gaining it back in a few paragraphs.
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Are there any good books yet about the wars in Afghanistan/Iraq/etc, and modern warfare in general?
Sorry for requesting post-19th century literature, /lit/.
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>>8123183
I doubt it, we're still waiting on the dust to settle.
I'm still waiting on the Chilcot Enquiry. I'm also waiting on Tony Blair/etc getting hanged for treason, but hey, one thing at a time.
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>>8123183
i liked the junior officer's reading club
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>>8124042
>officer's
officers'
fuck
why are books always about people and their relationships (man v man, man v society, etc)? are there any good books about objects?
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>>8123144
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>>8123144
The Aleph - Borges
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>>8123144
We can only regard "objects" in respect to their relationships to other objects. It's impossible to simply write a book about an object without writing about its relationships with other objects.
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Why are so many venerated books, such as literary fiction or western canon books, so fucking relentlessly boring and long winded? It's maddening. They are put on a pedestal by the academia-media-publishing industrial complex for money / worship reasons.
Why is so much philosophy so fucking trivial? Why should I agree with Socrates that the unexamined life isn't worth living? All of the Greeks are just tools people use to appeal to authority or a prism through which people pass their own views for pseudo-intellectual cred ("Obama is no philosopher-king, as Plato talked about, therefore...").
It all seems like pretentious appealing to authority desu.
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>muh pretentiousness
>muh acdemia-media-publishing industrial complex
>muh pseudo-intellectualism
Stop trying to justify being a pleb. It's about expanding your viewpoint and gaining some perspective.
Also, how is philosophy trivial when it's literally bout trying to understand life?
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what a philistine
shame on you
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>>8123124
>no examples given
Are we talking about philosophy? If so, are you expecting action in a discourse about the nature of...nature?
Are we talking about the Illiad, Odyssey, Plutarch's Lives, Thucydides, the Bible? They are action packed.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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post your fav short novels !
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Lot 49
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>>8123089
on a galactic scale, maybe
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is this good
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>>8123071
Winnipeg Free Press seems to think so
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It starts out fine but goes absolutely nowhere
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Hey /lit/
Do you guys know some books about time travel?
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>>8122978
UBIK
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>genre fiction
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Hello, /lit/.
I was looking for recommendations on the following themes:
>Depression
No self help or best seller books. These are generally bad.
>Ancient civilizations
Will dump a few names, as ''ancient'' is just too vague: amorites, hittites, caananites, moabites, ammonites, edomites, the twelve tribes in general. Or celtic tribes, I still have a hard tribe distinguishing such variety within them.
Also, I would rather if they were easy to find on PDF. I live abroad and some titles that I find don't sell on bookstores, and I can't buy anything on the internet for a few months.
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>>8122897
Download Soulseek and goto user Bijuz, I have a huge archaeology collection from many of the civs you mentioned
>depression
unless you are in a romantic relationship i would def recommend prozac. books dont help, they make it worse. just being real with you.
tao te ching and meditations i guess
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>>8122908
I don't need medication, I just wanted some form of catharsis. If the Meditations is from Marcus Aurelius, already read it.
And some may actually help, at least to see the hole you dug for yourself. At least it happened when I read Crime and Punishment.
>>8122914
Will download Soulseek just for this. Thank you!
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How To Write Dialogue
by: Ayn Rand
>Character A walks into a room and greets Character B with a snide remark or playful jab. Character B is sitting, often at a desk.
>Character B then gives Character A a look that is described with four or five "-ly" averbs.
>Character A does/says something bitchy, to which Character B responds with a beat of silence, directly followed by a patronizing comment, usually one ending in "darling".
>Take a moment here to fill a page with exhaustive details on the way Character B holds their head and why they appear as if they could be control after all.
>Suddenly, Character B proves this control with a one word reply. 90% of the time this is a person's name.
>Character B gasps.
>Character A takes up 3 pages explaining their motive and the entire philosophy behind their character. Somewhere in this dialogue there may or may not be a Bible verse.
>Character B becomes angry.
>Character A laughs.
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>20-year-old Ayn Rand walks into your room and greets you with a snide remark and playful jab. You are sitting at your desk, as you often are.
>You give Ayn Rand a look that could be described with four or five "-ly" adverbs.
>Ayn Rand is very bitchy, to which you react with stunned silence. Ayn Rand patronizingly asks whether the proverbial cat has your tongue, and calls you "darling."
>Ayn Rand takes a moment to fill your mouth with her tongue, while holding your head. She appears to be in control.
>Suddenly, you prove her control by only managing a one word reply: "Ayn.."
>Ayn grabs your nuts in her bony fist, and you gasp.
>Ayn spends 16 minutes explaining objectivism to you, never releasing your scrotum. She quotes the Bible but you're not sure you understand the reference.
>Ayn becomes angry that you haven't invented anything yet.
>Ayn laughs and forces you to orally service her until you invent something.
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>>8122805
>You will never service that sweet russian hoo-ha
Why even live
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What book actually changed how you think and how you see the world, whether it was fiction or philosophy?
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My views as to the extent of what can be done with berries was radically changed by Redwall, if that counts
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>>8122678
Lol le Death worship
go to bed Hades
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The Book of Night Women by Marlon James. Read it after high school and realized how safe and cushioned everything I had been reading before was.