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Pic related is one of the most enigmatic, complex, and thought-provoking lines in hip-hop/rap history. Many have tried but none have been able to understand its meaning.
Can /lit/?
here is the origin
https://youtu.be/adbiURhN8sg?t=132
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Why is complexity so worshiped ?
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I'm glad nothing changed in the time it took me to read that sentence; I'm always worried it has.
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>>8285177
Complexity is simplicity confused with intelligence.
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Alright boys it's real nigga hours. If you haven't slogged your way through this book get the fuck out.
Here's my theory on the book, feel free to tell me I'm wrong but I wanna have a discussion about it. NOTE: I read it un-annotated because I don't like myself very much.My theory is that the whole book follows that the characters are symbols for Ireland, England, and the people of the countries respectively. As Stephen Dedalus represents Ireland we see Bloom representing England and Molly, as well as women at large, representing the common Volk. I think when we view these as symbols the book becomes more simple. Bloom lusts after numerous women and finds himself in the domicile of many, courting many. It is possible this could represent the imperialism of Great Britain. Furthermore, Stephen Dedalus seems to be a vacant character with a wide diversity of prose to ascertain his motives but it rides asunder from any real human that is relate-able. In the beginning chapter we see Stephen look out into the distance at a ship that disappears to a home he could not go. In the book Stephen always has the keys to get into the doorway or home, while Bloom does not. This could mean that Ireland has the keys to Irish independence. I'm not fully exploring my theory but I would love some feedback and some good sources to read further analysis.
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>>8285170
>slogged
Opinion disregarded.
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>>8285205
https://www.google.com/search?q=define+slogged&oq=define+slogged&aqs=chrome..69i57.3229j0j4&client=ms-android-att-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
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>>8285170
Bloom is a greater hero than Odysseus simply for continuing to put one foot in front of the other, with everything he's been through
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Will knowing more than two languages become a status symbol in the near future?
Everyone's learning english, and technology will soon be able to translate texts on the spot for most practical purposes. So eventually, those who spend time taking up French or Arabic will only do so out of artistic interest, knowing that the literature, the poetry, the films and the music can only be properly enjoyed in the original language.
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>in the future
Look behind you.
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>>8285070
I'd say it's quite the other way around. More and more children grow up learning a second foreign language when they are in fourth or fifth grade. A third one a bit later. At least apparently in central Europe.
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Joseph Conrad - The Lingard Trilogy 2016-07-16 16:47:41 Post No.8285067
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Joseph Conrad - The Lingard Trilogy
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Has /lit/ read Joseph Conrad’s “Lingard Trilogy” and if so, what do you think of it?
Almayer's Folly (1895)
An Outcast of the Islands (1896)
The Rescue (1920)
I’ve read “The Rescue” (I have a 1920 Doubleday, Page & Co. hardcover) and thought it was an interesting story, even if it is a bit difficult to read due to the now kinda archaic vocabulary and was thinking of ordering up the other two books in the series.
I’ve also read “Lord Jim”, which I only vaguely remember as being boring.
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>Has /lit/ read Joseph Conrad’s “Lingard Trilogy”
no
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Vannevar Bush described in his 1945
An associative trail as conceived by Bush would be a way to create a new linear sequence of microfilm frames across any arbitrary sequence of microfilm frames by creating a chained sequence of links in the way just described, along with personal comments and side trails.
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Modern hypertext systems with word and phrase-level linking offer more sophistication in connecting relevant information
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At the time Bush saw the current ways of indexing information as limiting and instead proposed a way to store information that was analogous to the mental association of the human brain
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How Deep Is Your Love ?
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Which one will it be, lit?
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All memes
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>>8284989
Only good one is Gaddis and even that's a bit doubtful.
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suggest me a list of 5 books I should read, anon.
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What should I read first, Lolita or Gravity's rainbow?
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>>8284894
Try: "Kill yourself"
A starting novel from the writers of "Right now" and "No one will miss you"
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>>8284897
why are you repressing your love of cute guys, anon?
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>>8284894
>Pedobook
>Big Pedobook
Go be a pedophile somewhere else.
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Is there anything good about breasts in literature
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As in any famous passages? infamous passages? soft descriptions? something titillating?
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Grapes of Wrath when the pregnant girl lets a starving man breastfeed
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Sabbaths Theater by Phillip Roth
There's a scene where the senior citizen protagonist is sucking his middle aged mistress's tits and she tells him, 'I feel that deep in my cunt.'
This gets him thinking about his mother.
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I'm stuck. Something happened, and I fell in the pit of the weaks. I can't write, no more.
I've many stories in my head, many plots and scenarios, but I still can't figure out how I could write them. Isn't it just sad and disappointing?
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>>8284752
Just write fragments and connect them later
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>>8284752
>can't write 'no more'
cringe
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>>8284752
Does anyone here read like that woman? It bothers me beyond reason to have to fight to keep the book open. I'd rather snap its spine. I wish all books were like those buttery smooth bound hardbacks.
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discerning "bad" writing 2016-07-16 15:07:35 Post No.8284749
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I have a problem when reading "bad" writing.
It's not that I can't tell (or decide) if some writing is bad, but I can't explain or articulate in an intelligent manner why I find it so terrible.
When I discern bad writing it comes as something intuitive, like eating bad food and immediately 'knowing' that it tastes horrible.
What should I do read to hone in my articulation when it comes to literary criticism?
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>>8284749
Smells like Sumeria in here xD
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>>8284749
>What should I do read to hone in my articulation when it comes to literary criticism?
Literary criticism.
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>>8284779
yes but which ones specifically.
I would have thought /lit/ would be good at reading comprehension.
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>Begin quote (from guardian article)
“OK,” I say. “You’re basically alone. Your wife is still asleep” – he was then married, but not for much longer, to his second wife, Marla Maples – “you’re in the bathroom shaving and you see yourself in the mirror. What are you thinking?”
From Trump, a look of incomprehension.
Me: “I mean, are you looking at yourself and thinking, ‘Wow. I’m Donald Trump’?”
Trump remains puzzled.
Me: “OK, I guess I’m asking, do you consider yourself ideal company?”
(At the time, I deemed Trump’s reply unprintable. But that was then.)
Trump: “You really want to know what I consider ideal company?”
Me: “Yes.”
Trump: “A total piece of ass.”
Singer’s profile determined that Trump does not have an interior life.
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Is this really how New Yorker / NYT / "literary" magazine nu-male cucks think? I'm not a Trump worshipper but how can we go from Hemingway to these cucks?
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>>8284746
Get in, faggot. We're making America great again.
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>Make America Great Again
What did he mean by this?
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>>8284746
Something must be going over my head.
Is it supposed to be Trump's internal dialogue or am I just missing the entire point?
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Is there a book that compares short-term memory loss to immortality.
pis-related does it and I want to see another angle
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Well, if you're only looking to see short-term memory loss equating infinity, you're actually looking for the same angle.
This is a novel that deals with an amnesiac who suffers short term memory loss and is part of a behavioral study group The dramatic angle of the story is how one of the professionals uses their position and the patient's condition to their personal advantage in interesting and unethical ways.
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Only film that made me cry
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>>8284738
Memento
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Why is the theatre so expensive?
My local theatre is state subsidised luckily (still kinda expensive but not that much), but they're doing Faust nearby and I was looking into tickets, turns out it's $200+ per person for the absolutely cheapest seats.
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>have esoteric interest
>surprised when it's expensive
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>>8284691
I wouldn't be able to afford going to the opera if it weren't subsidized, but I still think that an art should be able to survive commercially on its own merits. If there aren't any rich as fuck patrons, or if regular people don't enjoy the art enough, then the art should probably be left to die.
So, we need either the aristocracy or the people, and if we have neither, there is no art, only memes now.
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>>8284745
>but I still think that an art should be able to survive commercially on its own merits
Philistines can't appreciate or even recognize the sublime.
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Is it possible to go into this book without knowing anything about it and "get it" without reading analysis of it first or afterwards?
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>>8284653
What do you mean by "getting it"?
You'd better be acquainted with this:
Easy mode: Dubliners, Portrait, the Odyssey and Hamlet.
Nightmare mode: Easy mode plus the Iliad and the Aeneid, the complete works of Aristotle, Augustine, Aquinas, Shakespeare, Defoe and Ibsen, the catechism of the Catholic Church, The Divine Comedy, The Canterbury Tales, Faust parts I and II, the English Romantic poets, Yeats, Beowulf, Morte d'Arthur, Charles Dickens, Henry James, a working knowledge of Latin, Italian and Irish, in-depth knowledge of Irish mythology, history and popular culture around the turn of the century and way more.
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>>8284653
Read this first.
The novel establishes a series of parallels between the poem and the novel.
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How come the ones always about to read Ulysses are the severely under-read?So did I. You'll be fine as long as the prose does it for you.
Some good books on logics as a tool of philosophical analysis?
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B u m p
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>>8284603
Start with the Greeks*.
*I give this advice unironically, read Aristotle at least