Okay, /lit/, let's say you're designing a university course called "The American Experience in Fiction." Which works do you choose. Let's say around 7-10 novels, novellas and/or short story collections for the semester depending on length. This is what I'd go with. Let the autism and shitposting begin.
I put mine roughly in order of time period they're set.
The Scarlet Letter - Nathaniel Hawthorne
Uncle Tom's Cabin - Harriet Beecher Stowe
The Sound and the Fury - William Faulkner
The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
Underworld - Don Delillo
American Pastoral - Phillip Roth
Reservation Blues - Sherman Alexie
The Bleeding Edge - Thomas Pynchon
Underworld might be a meme for length but it seems so essential.
>>8822243
Let's see your list, anon.
I guess I'd use a three-class system. And, of course, you need some context from non-American writers and settings.
Middlemarch - Elliot
You Can't Go Home Again - Thomas Wolfe
Dubliners - James Joyce
Iliad - Homer
As I Lay Dying - Faulkner
Robinson Crusoe - Daniel Defoe
Yearling - Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings
David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Suttree - Cormac McCarthy
Uncle Remus series - Joel Chandler Harris
>>8822281
>And, of course, you need some context from non-American writers and settings.
Say more?
Like with Dubliners for example. Is your thinking that because Joyce always wanted to show the universal in the local and particular that the the experiences of the characters in Dublin are also by extension the experiences of any number of people in America too?
Are you alluding to Irish-American immigrants?
What genre is it when the future reverts back to medieval times. Or when medieval assets are used together with futuristic or contemporary.
I know there is steam punk and cyberpunk, but thats not it. I know there is a name for it, like non-binary future or whatever.
>>8822194
It's called 'sensible worldbuilding that accounts for the fact that technology does not instantly and ubiquitously propagate across the entire world and form a monoculture'
>>8822194
Best term I can think of is science fantasy.
Look at Book of the New Sun, Book of the Long Sun, and Panzer World Galient for examples.
>>8822194
post modernism.
Any other good books about eating poop?
the bible
>>8822182
Naked Lunch
>>8822182
Sounds like you might enjoy Joyce's work
Reminder that wisdom is madness taken to its last consequences, so if you are embarking on the journey you better be ready for it to be long and harsh, cause any hesitation or stop or rest will take you down, or back in a mutilated form.
wakarimasen lol
OP: print this out and keep it somewhere safe. i guarantee when you turn thirty you'll read it and smack yourself in the face for being such a teenaged idiot.
Wow that's really deep op how did you think of that
Kierkegaard is the most brilliant mind to grace philosophy in centuries
>>8822075
Objective best and only important philosophers: Socrates, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche
>>8822091
Socrates didn't even objectively exist
>>8822093
No shit. Doesn't change my point
apology for poor english
when were you when daved walase dies?
i was sat at home reading ulysses backwards when my lit techer ring
‘daved is kill’
‘no’
i was reading somethingawful forums, subforum called general bullshit. somebody made a thread that said "david foster wallace dead at 46" (or something). somebody replied, "wonder how long and pretentious his suicide note was." id never herad of him, figured he was a science fiction writer because he had long hair.
you forgot the and you???????? part
>>8822005
I was rereading Oblivion, 419th time, when the tragic call came.
"Pyotr... are you watching the news right now?"
"No mother, I'm reading. David Wallace never gets old. He-"
My mother began sobbing. She knew he was the only writer I could tolerate reading, and also the only subject I was willing to talk about. That was why she had called.
"Honey, honey, he's--"
Worried, I turned on the television. On all channels was the same breaking report: the world's premier author, beloved everywhere for his breathtaking fiction and nonfiction works, had been found dead near his home. Suicide.
I was still holding the book. But now it seemed to lack any words.
Was he a pedo?
>>8822000
I would assume so, judging by this image of him alone.
>>8822000
that is a very rare sartre
>>8822066
Way to miss the filename, newfriend.
Do you guys like Sherlock Holmes?
Has detective fiction gone downhill since then? Was Sherlock Holmes as a character /lit/
I like /lit/ Sherlock, despise /tv/ Sherlock.
I'm a sucker for detective stories.
I enjoyed Hounds of the Baskervilles when I read it for a class but I've never been tempted to read any of the other books. I don't really read detective books
>>8822545
>/tv/ Sherlock
The Russian version is pretty faithful if you don't mind subtitles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzwBIvVwuOg
Pic unrelated
>>8821787
The New Testament.
https://www.amazon.com/Two-Wrongs-Mercy-Johnson-Novel/dp/0983954313
>>8821787
I think The Miserables is your go-to for an exploration of the ramifications of mercy.
Hi /lit/ do you listen to music when you read ? If yes, what music do you listen ?
No
None
>>8821786
Yes
Jazz
No
Music distracts from the text and the text distracts from the music. In the end I'd fully enjoy neither.
Why are people so picky when it comes to diction in fiction novels? If the story was good, you wouldn't be caught up in the beautiful words from the thesaurus. When I read a book, it's as if the individual words don't matter and it's like a blur. It's not for a class so why pick at it?
Literature as an art form is built on diction the way painting is built on brushstrokes. I disagree personally with both of your points, "good" stories are intrinsically tied to how well they're written and if you barely notice the words you're missing out on most of what the author is doing.
>It's not for a class so why pick at it?
Because this is a board for people who like literature.
>>8821780
You can't remove the creative and technical components from eachother in writing. If you can't use proper diction, you shouldn't be writing. Period.
>>8821780
Prose is kind of like cinematography or other film techniques. Most people only notice it when its bad, but presentation rely does make all the difference. A good idea presented incompetently is becomes bad.
>be me
>absolutely sick of american culture and ideology
>realise that rarely a day goes by where I don't get unreasonably angry about it
>realise that I am getting angry over what's happening halfway around the world in a country that I've never even visited
>realise that, while I can never escape, I'm doing a large part this to myself by browsing the English-speaking internet
>look for a casual literature/philosophy forum in my native German
>it's all shit
Should I just kill myself
Nah man, think of the miles of unsucked dick out there. You got a lot to live for.
>>8821762
Jesus fucking Christ if I was as whiney a faggot as you were I'd want myself dead too.
Has anybody read anything by Nabokov apart from Lolita?
What do you recommend?
I've read Pnin, Ada or Ardor, Speak Memory, and Pale Fire. I would recommend all of them.
invitation to a beheading is really enjoyable and short as well. like a more arch kafka
ada is probably the best written one and also has more pedo sex if you're after more of that (this time with incest!)
i didn't care for pale fire but people seem to love it
king, queen, knave was good
I found King, Queen, Knave to be extremely enjoyable, as well as Luzhin's Defence. Tead the first if you're interested in a love triangle and irony, and the second uf you're interested in chess and autism (and a shocking emding). Camera Obscura is interesting from the point of view of describing how a blind man would feel, but the little girl was so insufferable, holy damn, worse than Lolita.
Is the meaning of life hidden behind the language?
language has meaning
life does not
No.
The actual meaning of life is developing a philosophical system which gives life universal meaning and going for it.
BTW making a philosophical system to say you need to give life meaning makes you a faggot.
>>8821722
The meaning of life is the meaning that you give to it, not the other way around. Other than that, there is no meaning, no nothing. Everything is beautifully empty and nothing and it is everything.
>go to r/books
>LoTR
>Stormlight
>Stephen King
>>8821705
>go to /lit/
>thread about reddit
>/pol/shit
>dumb frogposts
Time to rev up my filters I see
>>8821710
Still not as cringe as books.
literally r/books:
>hey guis, did any of you ever experience feeling depressed when you finished a book? :-(
And it's filled with fantasy-loving *nerdy* and *quirky* types in the same way as r/art. I truly have a hard time imagining more cringey forums/boards/subreddits than those two
I like Stormlight and King tho