why don't I like plato? where am i supposed to even start?
>>8825253
Well, he isn't right about a lot, so it gets tedious reading
Move on to Epicurus
>>8825697
plen detected
>>8825253
The works are usually grouped into Early (sometimes by some into Transitional), Middle, and Late period.[84][85] This choice to group chronologically is thought worthy of criticism by some (Cooper et al),[86] given that it's recognised that there is no absolute agreement as to the true chronologicity, since the facts of the temporal order of writing are not confidently ascertained.[87]
Early: Apology (of Socrates), Charmides, Crito, Euthyphro, Gorgias, (Lesser) Hippias (minor), (Greater) Hippias (major), Ion, Laches, Lysis, Protagoras
Middle/Transitional: Cratylus, Euthydemus, Meno, Parmenides, Phaedo, Phaedrus, Republic, Symposium,
Middle/Late: Theaetetus
Late: Critias, Sophist, Statesman / Politicus, Timaeus , Philebus, Laws
Chronologicity was not a consideration in ancient times, in that grouping of this nature are virtually absent (Tarrant) in the extant writings of ancient Platonists
Just a reminder that no work released in the last 50 years in the English Language has managed to beat this translated lolige
>>8825195
can you elaborate
That's because anime and memes are the true art of our era.
>>8825195
Get back to /vn/ you dumb shitposting faggot
>she sorts her books by color
>>8825094
https://youtu.be/ii6lk9QcW_Q
What did she mean by this?
I have never seen a guy do this
What am I in for?
>>8824993
it is very boring until it gets explosively good.
Comfy murders
You'll be in for a wild ride.
why do I never see
Robert Coover
Donald Barthelme
Raymond Federman
Perec
Joseph Mcelroy
talked about on /lit?
>>8824958
we don't read
>>8824997
I was gonna re-read W&P over Christmas, and I’d been thinking about making a thread about it to sync up with anyone on the board who’s doing the same, when I had the idea that we could open up the reading group to /his/ if anyone over there is interested in joining in, considering the central theme of the book is /his/tory.
Objectively 10/10 Reasons for joining this reading group:
>W&P is objectively the greatest novel ever written (inb4 Tolstoy said it wasn’t a novel; there’s cultural reasons for that)
>It’s the absolute 10/10 winter book for staying inside with a hot mug of something, by the frosted window-pane, with the snow falling.
>/lit/’s official ideology (dubs-decided) is Tolstoian Christian Anarchism, so you gotta brush up on your Tolstoy guys, or you’re gonna get exiled
>It’s the greatest novel ever written
>It’s not a difficult meme-book, more than five people will make it to the end of the book without giving up.
>It’s the greatest novel ever written
Reasons for doing it cross-board w/ /his/:
>Why not?
>They probably know about Napoleon and dates and shit
>There are a huge number of cross-posters anyway, so it’d be pretty natural.
>It’s the greatest novel ever written and why not?
I guess we’d alternate it, a thread on /lit/, then the next thread on /his/, and the discussion would be a variety of discussion about the book, and discussion about the context it engages. If you’re like me and you don’t know a whole lot about that context then that probably sounds pretty good (don’t lie anon, you know you want to have /his/-autists tell you about the midget-man’s motivations invading Russia). Who’s up for it? If you don't think it could work we could just do a plain reading group for it, just on /lit/.
Reply with “Yeah anon, that sounds like a swell plan” or Pierre will tie your mother to the back of a bear and throw her into a river tonight
selfish bump
>>8824953
I'd like to, but I'm barely 200 pages into The Idiot.
When do you plan in starting?
>>8824953
Yeah anon, that sounds like a swell plan
I read anna karenina back in the day, why not
What translation?
>finally get around to picking up that 'classic'
>it's vacuous bullshit
What's it's name?
>>8824919
*what's its name?
Damn
Charles Dickens?
Books don't have names, they have titles.
Hello /lit/ its been a while since I started posting shit here, but i want to get into philosophy. I dont have any current experience about it. Theres any good books for stupid people like me who wants to get into that?
>he has to ask for help instead of just browsing and looking around for a bit
Not gonna make it.
>>8824913
1. pick a philosopher
2. pick a work
3. read it.
4. read all secondary literature you can find on it
5. pick another of his works
6. continue until you are finished and have mastered that philosopher.
if you get bored in any of the first five steps, it means you've picked the wrong philosopher or philosophy isn't for you. in any case by the time you're done with this you now know enough about that one philosopher for his thought to be your lens on another philosophy, and you can start to widen your horizon. don't be lured into the survey meme. it's bullshit and you don't retain anything that you couldn't learn on wikipedia.
>>8824913
Start with the Greeks
what the what now? why does DFW start writing like a high kite
he thought that was how uneducated people thought, or wrote, or something.
>>8824904
classism
>>8824904
maybe to show that even the weirdo and stoopid people still have some grasp of language and still some intelligence and purposes there, and he while attempting to display this also tries to make it something poetic to even further the suggestion
>at least three "what did he/she/they/ mean by this" variants on the front page of lit
When will it stop
WAY TO CONTRIBUTE A METAPOST HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH LIT. SAGED.
>>at least three "what did he/she/they/ mean by this" variants on the front page of lit When will it stop
what did he mean by this?
>>8824875
Hey um
I know you're not a bad guy I know you're just doing what you usually do
But Im gonna have to point it out
Im gonna have to ask you to do somethin and Id like you to hear me out
You just said what did HE mean by this
And Im just wondering if you were in the room with anon because youre his friend maybe in which case its all groovy groovy
But if thats not the case (and Im assumin its not
Maybe just maybe if you could try and not assume his gender okay
Maybe if you could just think a little bit more about creating an environment that welcomes everybody
Not a boys club okay
Like I say Im sure you didnt mean it but please think about the kind of welcoming community we want 4chan to be and act accordingly okay
we cool huh?
I want to learn more about post capitalism, /lit/, where do I start?
>inb4 le greeks
already done bro..
>>8824811
Wealth of Nations
Das Kapital
Economics in One Lesson
General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money
Capitalism and Freedom
What is to be Done?
Unabomber Manifesto
The Pure Theory of Capital
This Changes Everything
The list covers most of the major perspectives on capitalism, and understanding of which seems like a prerequisite to reading about post-capitalism.
>>8824811
Ignore the first response unless you want to funnel yourself into traditional marxist irrelevance. Post-capitalism in this century will be based on evolutionary, network and/or complexity economics. TED-talk tier intros include Jeremy Rifkin and Cesar Hidalgo.
What is Der Steppenwolf about ?
>>8824780
>>8824780
this is all my Steppenwolf stuff.
So how come it seems like people on this board hate reddit so much? Did something happen between this particular board with the other site's reading board or the whole website in general that was a big event that I just didn't hear anything about? There seems to be all these bizarre prejudices against reddit boards or if you post a tumblr picture.
gb2r
>>8824761
It's because reddit is shit. Go there and stay there.
>>8824771
But why? I want answers dammit!
Recommend me authors that are openly against inmigration.
Newfriends will respond to this
>>8824698
>Phonefag calling anyone new
>>8824720
>thinking 'newfriend' is autocorrect
>calling anyone new
What are your personal opinions on these books recommended by NdT? Are they any good?
https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/12/29/neil-degrasse-tyson-reading-list/
>>8824578
This never stops being funny
>>8824585
Huh?
>>8824601
Newfag detected